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Fantastic Pretraining Optimizers and Where to Find Them

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Preconditioned Norms: A Unified Framework for Steepest Descent, Quasi-Newton and Adaptive Methods cites this paper.

Preconditioned Norms: A Unified Framework for Steepest Descent, Quasi-Newton and Adaptive Methods Fantastic Pretraining Optimizers and Where to Find Them

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Turbo-Muon: Almost-Orthogonal Pre-Conditioning for Fast Muon Updates cites this paper.

Turbo-Muon: Almost-Orthogonal Pre-Conditioning for Fast Muon Updates Fantastic Pretraining Optimizers and Where to Find Them

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Muon in Associative Memory Learning: Training Dynamics and Scaling Laws cites this paper.

Muon in Associative Memory Learning: Training Dynamics and Scaling Laws Fantastic Pretraining Optimizers and Where to Find Them

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Decoupling Variance and Scale-Invariant Updates in Adaptive Gradient Descent for Unified Vector and Matrix Optimization Fantastic Pretraining Optimizers and Where to Find Them

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veScale-FSDP: Flexible and High-Performance FSDP at Scale cites this paper.

veScale-FSDP: Flexible and High-Performance FSDP at Scale Fantastic Pretraining Optimizers and Where to Find Them

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HTMuon: Improving Muon via Heavy-Tailed Spectral Correction cites this paper.

HTMuon: Improving Muon via Heavy-Tailed Spectral Correction Fantastic Pretraining Optimizers and Where to Find Them

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RMNP: Row-Momentum Normalized Preconditioning for Scalable Matrix-Based Optimization Fantastic Pretraining Optimizers and Where to Find Them

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Sharp Capacity Scaling of Spectral Optimizers in Learning Associative Memory cites this paper.

Sharp Capacity Scaling of Spectral Optimizers in Learning Associative Memory Fantastic Pretraining Optimizers and Where to Find Them

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Nexus: Same Pretraining Loss, Better Downstream Generalization via Common Minima Fantastic Pretraining Optimizers and Where to Find Them

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Learning Rate Transfer in Normalized Transformers cites this paper.

Learning Rate Transfer in Normalized Transformers Fantastic Pretraining Optimizers and Where to Find Them

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Nora: Normalized Orthogonal Row Alignment for Scalable Matrix Optimizer cites this paper.

Nora: Normalized Orthogonal Row Alignment for Scalable Matrix Optimizer Fantastic Pretraining Optimizers and Where to Find Them

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When and Why SignSGD Outperforms SGD: A Theoretical Study Based on $\ell_1$-norm Lower Bounds cites this paper.

When and Why SignSGD Outperforms SGD: A Theoretical Study Based on $\ell_1$-norm Lower Bounds Fantastic Pretraining Optimizers and Where to Find Them

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Optimizer-Model Consistency: Full Finetuning with the Same Optimizer as Pretraining Forgets Less Fantastic Pretraining Optimizers and Where to Find Them

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MLS-Bench: A Holistic and Rigorous Assessment of AI Systems on Building Better AI Fantastic Pretraining Optimizers and Where to Find Them

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