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LLMs can memorize facts but fail to assign scenario roles.

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LLMs fine-tuned on paraphrases of fictional facts can recall the paraphrases but cannot answer questions about who did what in those facts, suggesting memorization without robust scenario-level understanding.

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load-bearing objection A useful small dataset and a plausible negative result, but the probing pillar is unvalidated and the 'do NOT have scenario cognition' conclusion is much stronger than the evidence. the 4 major comments →

arxiv 2509.04866 v1 pith:W34WDGTH submitted 2025-09-05 cs.CL

Memorization $\neq$ Understanding: Do Large Language Models Have the Ability of Scenario Cognition?

classification cs.CL
keywords scenario cognitionmemorization vs understandinglarge language modelsprobingsupervised fine-tuningsemantic rolesframe semanticsgeneralization
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The reading

This paper asks whether large language models truly understand the semantic scenarios in the text they process or merely memorize surface forms. To test this, the authors construct a dataset of fictional facts with multiple paraphrased descriptions, fine-tune ten open-source LLMs on these descriptions, and then ask the models to answer questions that rephrase the same facts from a different role perspective. The models perform well on the descriptions they were trained on but near chance on the rephrased questions, and linear probes of their internal representations fail to recover which entities fill which roles. The paper concludes that current LLMs lack 'scenario cognition'—the ability to bind semantic scene elements to their arguments—and that their impressive output performance reflects surface-level memorization rather than deep semantic understanding.

Core claim

After supervised fine-tuning on 5,000 paraphrased descriptions of 500 fictional facts, ten open-source LLMs from the Qwen, LLaMA, and Gemma families score high on the training distribution (Memory Set) but collapse on rephrased scenario questions (Understanding Set), with exact-match scores dropping from roughly 0.76–0.87 to 0.10–0.24. Adding 30% of the Understanding Set to fine-tuning raises Understanding performance only modestly, far below Memory Set levels. From the internal-representation perspective, a linear probe trained to classify scenario element–argument pairs never exceeds 0.5 F1 at any layer, and recall stays especially low, indicating that the bindings are not linearly decodab

What carries the argument

The key mechanism is a bi-perspective evaluation framework built on a scenario-based dataset. The dataset consists of Atomic Knowledge (fictional facts with at least three roles), a Memory Set of ten paraphrased descriptions per fact used for supervised fine-tuning, and an Understanding Set of questions that target scenario elements in a completion format (e.g., 'The director who presented... is ___'). The second perspective uses a linear probe on concatenated hidden-state vectors of scenario elements and candidate arguments, trained as a binary classifier to detect matching element–argument pairs. This framework operationalizes 'scenario cognition' as the ability to link semantic scene elem

Load-bearing premise

The Understanding Set fairly tests the same knowledge as the Memory Set, so the performance gap must be attributed to missing scenario cognition rather than to output format or phrasing differences.

What would settle it

Fine-tune a model on the same Memory Set and evaluate it on Understanding Set questions paraphrased by humans (not by the same generator) in a held-out design. If performance approaches Memory Set levels, the gap is surface variation. Alternatively, if any existing open LLM probed at multiple layers with a small nonlinear probe yields F1 above 0.8 on the released dataset, the claim that role-argument bindings are not internally encoded would be falsified.

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If this is right

  • Merely scaling model size or extending fine-tuning epochs is unlikely to yield scenario cognition, since output-level gains with scale do not translate into probe performance or Understanding Set success.
  • Standard supervised fine-tuning on paraphrases produces surface-level 'data memory'; evaluating models only on the training distribution substantially overstates their semantic competence.
  • The format-adaptation experiment shows that the memorization–understanding gap is not an artifact of question phrasing: exposing models to the target output style leaves performance far below Memory Set levels.
  • If scenario cognition is absent from current architectures, tasks requiring role binding in novel contexts—such as multi-step instruction following or complex semantic parsing—will remain unreliable.
  • The paper's account ties at least some hallucination types to missing scenario cognition: models generate fluent text because of formal competence but lack the internal bindings needed to verify semantic correctness.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • A direct testable extension would be to compare human performance on the same Understanding Set under similar time constraints; if humans also drop sharply on rephrased questions, part of the gap may reflect task difficulty rather than a model-specific deficit.
  • The probing result suggests that role-argument bindings may be encoded in non-linear or distributed form, or may be context-dependent; probing with interventions (e.g., causal tracing of role-entity pairs) could reveal whether bindings are ever formed even if not linearly decodable.
  • The scenario-cognition framing could be applied to evaluate multilingual models: if the memorization–understanding gap persists across languages, it would strengthen the claim that the deficit is architectural rather than corpus-driven.
  • One implicit implication is that benchmark gains achieved by training on paraphrases may be conflating memorization with comprehension; the field may need 'understanding sets' as a standard control in fine-tuning evaluations.
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Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

4 major / 5 minor

Summary. The paper proposes a bi-perspective framework to evaluate whether LLMs possess "scenario cognition," defined as the ability to link semantic scenario elements (e.g., director, producer) with their arguments (e.g., Paxton, Helen) in context. The authors construct a synthetic dataset of 500 fictional atomic facts, each expanded into 10 paraphrased descriptions (Memory Set, 5,000 samples) and 1,581 scenario-question/answer pairs (Understanding Set). After full-parameter SFT on the Memory Set, they evaluate ten open-source models from Qwen2.5, LLaMA3.x, and Gemma2 families, reporting high memorization scores on the Memory Set but low scores on the Understanding Set. They complement this with linear probing of hidden states to test whether element-argument associations are linearly decodable, and they report F1 scores below 0.5. The paper concludes that current LLMs do NOT have scenario cognition and rely primarily on surface-level memorization. The manuscript includes format-adaptation experiments, a case study, and appendices with alternative probing designs.

Significance. If the central claim were established, the paper would make a useful contribution to the ongoing debate about whether LLM generalization reflects semantic understanding or shallow pattern matching. The dataset is released, the evaluation spans multiple model families and scales, and the bi-perspective design (output-level and representation-level) is a reasonable template for future studies. The format-adaptation experiment in Table 2 is a commendable attempt to address one obvious confound. However, the strong negative conclusion currently rests on an unvalidated probing null result and a remaining output-format confound, so the paper's significance is conditional on additional controls and more carefully scoped claims.

major comments (4)
  1. [§2.2, §3.2.2, Fig. 4] The probing pillar is not validated as evidence of absence. The authors claim that because probe F1 is below 0.5, models have not effectively encoded element-argument associations. But with a 47%/53% positive/negative split, an all-positive classifier achieves F1 ≈ 0.64, so all reported F1 values are below a trivial majority baseline. No positive control is shown: there is no demonstration that the same linear probe can detect element-argument associations in a model or representation known to contain them. Moreover, Appendix B.4 reports that average attention for target pairs is "notably higher" than for non-target pairs, which is direct evidence that some scenario-relevant information is accessible internally. The strong negative conclusion from the probe is therefore not supported. The authors should add (a) a positive control, e.g., a synthetic representation or a model fine-tuned wi
  2. [§3.2.1, Tables 1–2] The Memory vs Understanding gap is confounded with output format. Memory Set evaluation uses the same completion format as SFT (first segment as prompt, second segment as target), while the Understanding Set requires completing a newly phrased template with a short answer. The format-adaptation experiment trains on only 30% of the Understanding Set and evaluates on the remaining 70%; the residual gap may reflect generalization to unseen question templates rather than absence of scenario cognition. To make the central claim load-bearing, the authors should run a stronger format control: for example, train on 100% of the Understanding Set (or all template types) and measure whether the gap disappears; or evaluate Memory Set knowledge using Understanding-style prompts; or use answer-extraction scoring instead of generation metrics. Without such a control, the observed gap is consistent with
  3. [§5, Abstract] The claim that "current LLMs do NOT have the ability of scenario cognition" is overgeneralized. The experiments cover ten open-source models after 5-epoch SFT on 5,000 synthetic sentences. This supports a more limited conclusion: under this training/data configuration, the evaluated models show poor generalization to the constructed Understanding Set. It does not warrant a universal claim about all current LLMs, nor about models with different training protocols (e.g., instruction tuning, larger-scale pretraining, or in-context learning without SFT). The authors should rephrase the conclusion to match the scope of the evidence.
  4. [§2.1.3, §2.1.4] Dataset validity is not quantified. The Understanding Set is generated and annotated by Qwen2.5-Max, and the paper reports manual validation only qualitatively ("manual correction of low-quality annotations," "manual validation to guarantee data quality"). No inter-annotator agreement, error-rate statistics, or number of corrected samples are given. If the scenario questions are unnatural, ambiguous, or contain annotation errors, the performance gap could be an artifact of test design. Reporting human-evaluation statistics and making the annotation guidelines public would substantially strengthen the claim that the dataset measures scenario cognition.
minor comments (5)
  1. [General] The paper switches between "scene cognition" and "scenario cognition" (e.g., Section 3.3 uses "situational cognition" and "scene-level understanding"); unify the terminology.
  2. [§3.1] Results are averaged over five runs but no standard deviations or confidence intervals are reported. Given the temperature=1 sampling, variance may be nontrivial; please include error bars or tables with variance.
  3. [Appendix D, Table 5] Some example questions are grammatically awkward (e.g., "The subject that Captain James Morrison was rescued..."); if these are representative, it strengthens the need for human quality metrics on the Understanding Set.
  4. [§2.1.1] The semantic-similarity threshold d(vx, vy) > 0.5 is described but not justified; a sentence or two on how this threshold was chosen would help.
  5. [Appendix B.4] The MLP-based probes report near-zero performance for some larger models; it would be useful to state whether the probes converged or whether this indicates an optimization failure, since that affects interpretation.

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity: the central negative result is an empirical measurement, not a consequence of the paper's definitions or fitted parameters.

full rationale

The paper's central claim — that current LLMs lack scenario cognition — is an empirical negative result obtained by fine-tuning on a Memory Set, evaluating on a held-out Understanding Set, and probing internal representations. None of these conclusions is derived by construction from the definition of scenario cognition; rather, the definition operationalizes the construct and the experiments measure it. The 30%-Understanding-Set format-adaptation experiment is a held-out control, not a fitted parameter renamed as a prediction. The linear probe is a supervised classifier whose failure is measured; while one may question its validity (no positive control, a trivial majority baseline of about 0.64 F1), that is a correctness or validity concern, not circularity, because the conclusion does not reduce to the probe's training labels by any equation. Self-citations (e.g., Li et al. 2024 for frame-semantic terminology, Zhao et al. 2025 in related work) are contextual and not load-bearing: no uniqueness theorem, ansatz, or known result is imported from the authors' prior work to force the conclusion. The use of LLMs (Qwen2.5-Max, DeepSeek-V3) to generate the synthetic dataset is an instrumentation choice and does not make the measured failure equivalent to the generation procedure. The paper's own Appendix B.4 attention result partially weakens the strong negative conclusion, but that is an internal-evidence tension rather than a circular step. Overall, the derivation chain is self-contained and empirically grounded, with at most minor, non-load-bearing self-citations, so the circularity score is low.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

2 free parameters · 5 axioms · 1 invented entities

The central claim rests on the construct validity of the synthetic dataset and probing setup rather than on any mathematical derivation. There are no fitted physical constants: the load-bearing assumptions are that fictional facts are uncontaminated, that the Understanding Set fairly tests the same knowledge, and that probe failure implies absent information.

free parameters (2)
  • Semantic similarity retention threshold = 0.5 (L2 distance)
    Chosen in Equation 2, Section 2.1.1 to filter generated Atomic Knowledge; controls dataset diversity and size, and therefore which facts and paraphrases are used for training and evaluation.
  • Number of expanded descriptions per Atomic Knowledge = 10
    Fixed in Section 2.1.2; this count determines the Memory Set size (5,000) and the amount of paraphrase diversity the models see.
axioms (5)
  • domain assumption Frame Semantics' semantic scenes and scenario elements are the right units for testing understanding
    Section 1 grounds the definition of scenario cognition in Fillmore's frame semantics; the entire evaluation presupposes that element-argument association is the relevant ability.
  • domain assumption A linear probe's success or failure reveals whether information is encoded in representations
    Section 2.2 interprets probe accuracy as evidence about internal encoding; low probe scores could reflect probe insensitivity or representation geometry rather than absent information.
  • domain assumption Fictional facts are free of pretraining contamination
    Section 2.1.1 generates fictional facts to prevent reliance on memorized real-world knowledge; this assumes the models have not seen these facts or close variants in pretraining.
  • domain assumption LLM-generated and manually filtered annotations are correct ground truth
    Atomic Knowledge, paraphrases, scenario element annotations, and questions are produced by LLMs with manual validation (Sections 2.1.1 to 2.1.4); errors in these labels would directly affect measured performance.
  • domain assumption The Understanding Set questions are semantically equivalent to the Memory Set descriptions
    Section 2.1.4 assumes that completing 'The director who presented... is ___' tests the same knowledge as the training sentence; if not, the gap is a format mismatch rather than a cognition deficit.
invented entities (1)
  • Scenario cognition no independent evidence
    purpose: The ability being measured: linking scenario elements to their arguments in context
    Defined and operationalized in Sections 1 and 2 through the paper's own dataset and probes; there is no external benchmark or human construct validation establishing that this measurement reflects a stable cognitive faculty.

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Driven by vast and diverse textual data, large language models (LLMs) have demonstrated impressive performance across numerous natural language processing (NLP) tasks. Yet, a critical question persists: does their generalization arise from mere memorization of training data or from deep semantic understanding? To investigate this, we propose a bi-perspective evaluation framework to assess LLMs' scenario cognition - the ability to link semantic scenario elements with their arguments in context. Specifically, we introduce a novel scenario-based dataset comprising diverse textual descriptions of fictional facts, annotated with scenario elements. LLMs are evaluated through their capacity to answer scenario-related questions (model output perspective) and via probing their internal representations for encoded scenario elements-argument associations (internal representation perspective). Our experiments reveal that current LLMs predominantly rely on superficial memorization, failing to achieve robust semantic scenario cognition, even in simple cases. These findings expose critical limitations in LLMs' semantic understanding and offer cognitive insights for advancing their capabilities.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: Illustration of the contrast between human [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p001_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: Diagram of the bi-perspective evaluation framework for assessing LLMs’ scenario cognition, depicting [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p003_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: The trend of each metric as the training epoch increases from the perspective of model outputs, with solid [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: Visualization of linear probing results for LLMs’ internal representations across training epochs, with [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p007_4.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 5. Figure 5: , most errors do not display obvious gram￾matical or pragmatic flaws, yet they deviate sub￾stantially from factual correctness. Drawing on these observations, we argue that hallucination in LLMs is, at least in part, a reflection of their in￾sufficient situational cognition. Specifically, the model’s “data” memory provides strong compe￾tence in formal linguistic patterns, allowing it to generate grammatica… view at source ↗
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Figure 6. Figure 6: Visualization of probing results with SimilarityMLP for LLMs’ internal representations across training epochs, with subfigures for Precision, Recall, and F1 scores at different Transformer layers (Head, Mid, Tail), where the red dashed line at 0.5 indicates the baseline for binary classification of scenario element-argument correspondences [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p013_6.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 7. Figure 7: Visualization of probing results with EnhancedSimilarityMLP for LLMs’ internal representations across training epochs, with subfigures for Precision, Recall, and F1 scores at different Transformer layers (Head, Mid, Tail), where the red dashed line at 0.5 indicates the baseline for binary classification of scenario element-argument correspondences [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p013_7.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 8. Figure 8: Visualization of probing results using Attention-based Probing for LLMs’ internal representations at the final epoch. Each subfigure shows the Attention scores of a specific LLM at different Transformer layers (Head, Mid, Tail), comparing target pairs (i.e., scenario elements and their corresponding arguments) with non-target pairs (i.e., scenario elements and unrelated tokens). Each bar represents the ave… view at source ↗
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Figure 9. Figure 9: Prompt template for Atomic Knowledge Gen [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p015_9.png] view at source ↗

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