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arxiv: 2509.07849 · v2 · submitted 2025-09-09 · 🌀 gr-qc · astro-ph.IM

Observing Double White Dwarfs with the Lunar GW Antenna

Giovanni Benetti , Marica Branchesi , Jan Harms , Jean-Pierre Zendri This is my paper

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keywords lunar gravitational wave antennadouble white dwarfsdecihertz gravitational wavestype Ia supernovaepopulation synthesisparameter estimationgalactic sourcesextragalactic mergers
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The Lunar Gravitational Wave Antenna could detect roughly 40 double white dwarf binaries over ten years of observation.

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This paper explores the ability of the proposed Lunar Gravitational Wave Antenna to observe short-period double white dwarf binaries that emit in the decihertz band. It generates a simulated population using the SeBa stellar-evolution code with realistic spatial distributions, merger rates, and mass distributions. Standard gravitational-wave analysis tools then evaluate how many sources would be detectable and how well their sky locations and distances could be measured. The results point to about 30 monochromatic Galactic detections and 10 extragalactic mergers in a decade. A reader would care because these detections would supply new gravitational-wave data on the systems that may explode as Type Ia supernovae and on the interior structure of white dwarfs.

Core claim

Over ten years the LGWA detector, using its projected sensitivity in the decihertz band together with Fisher-matrix parameter estimation, is expected to detect approximately thirty monochromatic Galactic double white dwarf sources and ten extragalactic mergers; these detections would permit localization and distance measurements and thereby give access to extragalactic DWD populations for the first time in gravitational waves.

What carries the argument

LGWA sensitivity curve applied to a SeBa-generated population of double white dwarfs, followed by standard Fisher-matrix parameter estimation for signal detectability and sky-distance recovery.

If this is right

  • LGWA would provide the first gravitational-wave characterization of extragalactic double white dwarf populations.
  • Detected systems could be cross-matched with electromagnetic observations to test Type Ia supernova progenitor models.
  • Parameter estimation would yield sky positions and distances for the detected binaries.
  • The work shows that decihertz detectors can probe dense-matter physics inside white dwarfs through their merger signals.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • If the numbers hold, lunar-based detectors could fill the frequency gap between ground-based and millihertz space-based instruments for binary evolution studies.
  • Comparing actual counts to the SeBa predictions would offer a direct test of current stellar-evolution assumptions.
  • Multi-messenger follow-up of the localized sources could reveal whether the same binaries appear in optical or X-ray surveys.

Load-bearing premise

The projected detection numbers rest on the assumed spatial distributions, merger rates, and binary-mass distributions generated by the SeBa code together with the sensitivity model of the LGWA detector.

What would settle it

A ten-year LGWA observing run that records substantially fewer than thirty Galactic or ten extragalactic double white dwarf events would directly contradict the predicted detection rates.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2509.07849 by Giovanni Benetti, Jan Harms, Jean-Pierre Zendri, Marica Branchesi.

Figure 1
Figure 1. Figure 1: The plot shows the dependence of the merging frequency [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p003_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: Star formation history of the two galaxy disks, with data [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: The three simulated population components of the MW (row 1: thin disk, row 2: thick disk, row 3: bulge). Left: mass distri [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p007_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: Extragalactic population: the plot shows the position of [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p009_4.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 5. Figure 5: Comparison between rates obtained in this work (with [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p009_5.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 6. Figure 6: Cumulative distribution of the SNR for the three MW [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p010_6.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 7. Figure 7: Analysis of the MW population. The three main plots represent the distribution of SNR, error on sky localization and relative [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p012_7.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 8. Figure 8: Extragalactic population. Left column: Roche overflow scenario. Right column: contact scenario. Upper row: localization [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p013_8.png] view at source ↗
read the original abstract

The Lunar Gravitational Wave Antenna (LGWA) is a proposed gravitational-wave detector that will observe in the decihertz (dHz) frequency region. In this band, binary white dwarf systems are expected to merge, emitting gravitational waves. Detecting this emission opens new perspectives for understanding the Type Ia supernova progenitors and for investigating dense matter physics. In this paper, we present the capabilities of LGWA to detect and localize short-period double white dwarfs in terms of sky locations and distances. The analysis employs realistic spatial distributions and merger rates, as well as binary-mass distributions informed by population-synthesis models. The simulated population of double white dwarfs is generated using the SeBa stellar-evolution code, coupled with dedicated sampling algorithms. The performance of the LGWA detector, both in terms of signal detectability and parameter estimation, is assessed using standard gravitational-wave data analysis techniques, including Fisher matrix methods, as implemented in the GWFish and Legwork codes. The analysis indicates that, over 10 years of observation, LGWA could detect approximately 30 monochromatic Galactic sources and 10 extragalactic mergers, demonstrating the unique potential of decihertz gravitational-wave detectors to access and characterize extragalactic DWD populations. This will open new avenues for understanding Type Ia supernova progenitors and the physics of DWDs.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The manuscript evaluates the detection and localization prospects for short-period double white dwarf (DWD) binaries with the proposed Lunar Gravitational Wave Antenna (LGWA) in the decihertz band. It generates a simulated DWD population using the SeBa stellar-evolution code with realistic spatial distributions, merger rates, and binary-mass distributions, then assesses signal detectability and parameter estimation via Fisher matrix methods implemented in GWFish and Legwork. The central result is that over 10 years of observation LGWA could detect approximately 30 monochromatic Galactic sources and 10 extragalactic mergers, opening new avenues for studying Type Ia supernova progenitors and DWD physics.

Significance. If the projected detection numbers hold after robustness checks, the work provides a concrete forecast for the scientific return of a lunar-based decihertz GW detector on both Galactic and extragalactic DWD populations. The combination of population synthesis with standard GW analysis tools offers a practical bridge between stellar evolution modeling and observable GW signals, which could help prioritize LGWA design choices and motivate targeted follow-up strategies.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract: the headline quantitative claims (~30 monochromatic Galactic sources and ~10 extragalactic mergers over 10 years) are derived from a single SeBa population-synthesis realization without reported variations in input physics (common-envelope efficiency, supernova kicks, mass-transfer prescriptions) or cross-validation against alternative codes such as BSE. Because binary population synthesis codes are known to differ by up to an order of magnitude in DWD merger rates, these specific numbers—which constitute the paper’s central claim—lack demonstrated robustness.
  2. [Methods/results] Methods and results sections: the manuscript provides no details on how uncertainties in the assumed spatial distributions, merger rates, or mass distributions propagate into the final detection counts, nor any validation against observed DWD populations or alternative synthesis realizations. This omission directly affects the reliability of the quoted detection yields.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] The abstract and introduction would benefit from a brief statement of the assumed observation time, duty cycle, and noise model used for the LGWA sensitivity curve.
  2. [Analysis section] Notation for the Fisher-matrix implementation (e.g., which parameters are included in the covariance matrix) could be clarified to allow readers to reproduce the localization and distance estimates.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the constructive comments emphasizing the need for robustness checks in our population-synthesis forecasts. We address the two major comments point by point below, indicating planned revisions to the manuscript.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: the headline quantitative claims (~30 monochromatic Galactic sources and ~10 extragalactic mergers over 10 years) are derived from a single SeBa population-synthesis realization without reported variations in input physics (common-envelope efficiency, supernova kicks, mass-transfer prescriptions) or cross-validation against alternative codes such as BSE. Because binary population synthesis codes are known to differ by up to an order of magnitude in DWD merger rates, these specific numbers—which constitute the paper’s central claim—lack demonstrated robustness.

    Authors: We agree that the quoted detection numbers come from a single fiducial SeBa realization and that population-synthesis results are sensitive to input physics and can vary across codes. The manuscript selects SeBa parameters calibrated to existing observational constraints on DWD systems, as described in the methods. In the revised manuscript we will modify the abstract to qualify the numbers as indicative estimates from our fiducial model and add a short discussion paragraph citing inter-code comparisons and the range of DWD merger rates reported in the literature. This will frame the results more clearly as order-of-magnitude forecasts for LGWA planning. revision: partial

  2. Referee: [Methods/results] Methods and results sections: the manuscript provides no details on how uncertainties in the assumed spatial distributions, merger rates, or mass distributions propagate into the final detection counts, nor any validation against observed DWD populations or alternative synthesis realizations. This omission directly affects the reliability of the quoted detection yields.

    Authors: Our analysis adopts fixed spatial, rate, and mass distributions taken from the SeBa output without explicit Monte-Carlo propagation of their uncertainties. We also do not perform a direct comparison to the currently observed DWD sample in this work. In the revised version we will expand the methods section to state these modeling choices explicitly, reference prior SeBa validation studies against Galactic DWD observations, and add a brief qualitative discussion of how plausible variations in merger rates or spatial distributions would scale the detection yields. A full quantitative error budget would require additional simulations beyond the present scope. revision: partial

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity; projections use external codes without internal reduction

full rationale

The paper generates its headline detection numbers (~30 Galactic monochromatic sources and ~10 extragalactic mergers) by running the external SeBa population-synthesis code to produce DWD spatial distributions, merger rates, and mass distributions, then feeding those into standard Fisher-matrix analysis implemented in the external GWFish and Legwork packages. No equation or procedure inside the paper fits a parameter to a subset of data and then re-uses that same fitted quantity as a 'prediction.' No self-citation is invoked as a load-bearing uniqueness theorem or ansatz. The derivation chain therefore remains self-contained against external benchmarks and does not reduce to any of the enumerated circularity patterns.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

1 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

The central estimates depend on externally supplied population statistics and detector response models whose detailed assumptions are not inspectable from the abstract alone.

free parameters (1)
  • merger rates and spatial distributions
    Taken from SeBa population-synthesis models and used to generate the simulated DWD population.
axioms (1)
  • domain assumption Standard gravitational-wave data analysis techniques including Fisher matrix methods suffice for detectability and parameter estimation
    Invoked for assessing signal detectability and localization performance.

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