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Ethics reporting in top security research is inconsistent and compliance-focused, with deep ethical reasoning rarely making it into the written record.
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load-bearing objection The first full-year census of ethics reporting in top-4 security venues, with a strong interview study—but the abstract overstates a 'lack' of risk–benefit discussion that its own tables contradict. the 2 major comments →
[Extended] Ethics in Computer Security Research: A Data-Driven Assessment of the Past, the Present, and the Possible Future
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
By coding every paper published in 2024 at the big four security venues against the Menlo Report's four ethical principles—respect for persons, beneficence, justice, and respect for law and public interest—the authors find that 839 of 1,154 papers (about 73%) contain no discussion of ethics at all. Among the 315 papers that do engage with ethics, the dominant themes are institutional approval (121 board-approved, 19 exempt), confidentiality (110 papers), informed consent (89), and vulnerability disclosure (257 papers); the explicit balancing of risks and benefits appears in only 159 papers. Interviews with 24 authors, reviewers, ethics committee members, and program chairs reveal a community
What carries the argument
The central analytical instrument is the Menlo Report's four principles—respect for persons, beneficence, justice, and respect for law and public interest—used as a codebook to classify every paper in the corpus. Each paper was skimmed and keyword-checked for indicators of each principle, for IRB/ERB status, consent, deception, and vulnerability disclosure. The second mechanism is a two-stage qualitative study: a semi-structured interview guide covering decision-making, peer review, and hopes for the future, analyzed with open coding and affinity diagramming. Together these let the paper measure both the written record (what gets reported) and the lived process (what authors and reviewers ac
Load-bearing premise
The headline numbers depend on the reliability of three coders' manual classification of 1,154 papers; the paper reports only a 10% spot-check by the lead author and no formal inter-rater reliability statistic, and the authors themselves note they may have missed ethics discussions written in language they did not associate with ethics.
What would settle it
Recode a random sample of 200 papers from the corpus with two independent coders using the paper's own codebook; if inter-rater agreement (e.g., Cohen's kappa) falls below about 0.7, or if the recoded share of papers with no ethics discussion moves more than a few percentage points away from the reported 839/1154, the quantitative core of the claim is not stable. A complementary check is to run the paper's own keyword list over the full text of the 839 'no ethics' papers; if a substantial share contain terms like 'consent' or 'harm,' the manual screen may have missed discussions.
If this is right
- If the findings are right, the de facto ethics standard in top security venues is compliance-oriented: getting the board approval and writing the disclosure paragraph matters more than demonstrating that harms were weighed against benefits.
- The written literature systematically underrepresents the ethical reasoning of authors, so readers—especially junior researchers—cannot learn the field's actual ethical practice from published papers alone.
- Wide variation in calls for papers across venues means authors and reviewers face different and sometimes conflicting ethics expectations for essentially similar work.
- Research ethics committees and peer reviewers operate without a shared framework, making ethics review subjective, reactive, and inconsistent across subdisciplines and geographies.
- Because ethics is largely learned informally from advisors and colleagues, researchers without access to experienced mentors are at a structural disadvantage.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- If the gap between interview reasoning and written reporting is real and caused partly by space and incentive constraints, then venue policies that allocate dedicated space for ethics reasoning (a change the paper notes one major conference has recently introduced) could measurably increase the depth of published ethics sections; this is a testable prediction.
- The paper's focus on the Menlo Report may itself shape what is counted as 'ethics'; a complementary analysis coding for consequentialist vs. deontological reasoning, or for dual-use and environmental harms, could reveal whether risk-benefit balancing is genuinely rare or simply phrased in language the codebook missed.
- The authors' deliberate choice not to release the full paper-level coding means the quantitative results cannot be independently audited; a privacy-preserving release of aggregated codes by venue and paper type would let the community verify the headline rates without identifying individual authors.
- If the 'hidden curriculum' finding generalizes, formalizing ethics mentorship—for example, pairing junior researchers with ethics-experienced reviewers before submission—could reduce the inconsistency the paper documents.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. This paper presents a data-driven assessment of ethics reporting and decision-making in computer security research. The authors manually coded all 1,154 papers published at the four top security conferences (CCS, IEEE S&P, NDSS, USENIX Security) in 2024 for the presence and type of ethics discussions, using a Menlo Report-derived codebook. They supplement this meta-analysis with 24 semi-structured interviews with security and privacy researchers, including authors, reviewers, ethics-committee members, and program chairs. The paper's central claims are that ethics reporting in published papers is inconsistent and compliance-oriented (e.g., review-board approval, human-subjects protection, responsible disclosure), that deeper ethical reasoning reported by authors is often absent from papers, and that the community lacks shared standards and guidance. The paper also proposes recommendations for conferences, review boards, and ethics education.
Significance. If the headline findings are accurate, this is a valuable empirical contribution to the ongoing discussion of research ethics in computer security. The manuscript makes its codebook, interview guide, and extended appendix available, and it provides a rare corpus-level snapshot of ethics reporting across a full publication year. The interview data add a useful qualitative layer, and the authors are transparent about many limitations, including sample bias and the non-generalizability of the interview findings. The main quantitative claim in the abstract, however, is not supported by the paper's own frequency data, which is a load-bearing inconsistency that must be addressed before the paper can be accepted.
major comments (2)
- [Abstract; Section 4.1, Table 3] The abstract states the meta-analysis found 'a lack of discussion of balancing harms and benefits,' but Table 3 reports that 'balancing/mitigating risks and benefits' is the most commonly coded Menlo principle, appearing in 159 papers—more than IRB/ERB approval (121) or human-subjects protection (116). Section 4.1 also explicitly says this was 'the most common discussion of ethics.' If 'lack' is meant to refer to depth or quality rather than presence, that dimension was not coded in the meta-analysis; the paper only records presence/absence. The abstract should be revised to match the data, or the authors should add a depth-based analysis to justify the current wording.
- [Section 3.1.2] The quantitative claims (e.g., 839 papers with no ethics discussion, 159 with risk-benefit discussion) rest entirely on manual coding by three researchers, yet no inter-rater reliability statistic is reported for the meta-analysis. The paper reports only a 10% spot-check by the lead author and team discussions for ambiguous cases. For the interview coding, Krippendorff's alpha > 0.80 is reported; an analogous reliability measure (or a detailed justification of the consensus process) should be provided for the paper coding, or at least for a reliability subsample, so readers can assess the stability of the headline numbers.
minor comments (3)
- [Abstract; Section 3.1] The phrase 'all 1154 top-tier security papers published in 2024' is imprecise: the dataset covers papers from four selected venues, not all top-tier security venues. The Limitations section correctly notes this, but the abstract should say 'all papers at the top four security conferences' to avoid overstatement.
- [Section 4.1] The claim that 'published research seems to view the Menlo Report principles as a useful framework' is an inference from the coders' mapping, not from authors' explicit use: only 36 papers explicitly referenced the Menlo Report. This sentence should be softened or clarified.
- [Appendix F, Table 3] The table is dense and the row/column totals are not always immediately checkable. Adding a 'Total' column or explicit totals in the table header would improve readability.
Circularity Check
No load-bearing circularity: the meta-analysis and interview findings rest on original coding and transcripts; self-citations are background only. One internal inconsistency in the abstract is not a circularity.
full rationale
The paper's central claims are empirical: a manual meta-analysis of 1,154 papers and a semi-structured interview study of 24 researchers. The quantitative results come from original coding using a codebook and keyword lists (Section 3.1), and the qualitative results come from original interview transcripts (Section 3.2). There is no fitted parameter later renamed as a prediction, no derived equation whose output equals its input, and no uniqueness theorem imported from the authors' prior work to force a choice. The paper does cite prior work by the same authors (e.g., Kohno et al. 2023 [47], Ramulu et al. 2024 [61], Schmüser et al. 2024 [68], Wei et al. 2024 [81]), but these citations appear in background, motivation, and example contexts, not as evidence for the paper's headline findings. The recommendation sections occasionally reference the authors' own prior ethical-frameworks paper, but those references are advisory and do not carry the empirical argument. The most notable issue is an internal inconsistency rather than circularity: the abstract claims 'a lack of discussion of balancing harms and benefits,' while Section 4.1 and Table 3 report that 'the most common discussion of ethics was on the principle of beneficence through balancing/mitigating risks and benefits (159),' a count higher than the IRB-approval (121) and human-subjects (116) categories the abstract calls a 'strong focus.' This is a correctness or presentation flaw in the paper's own evidence, not a case where a conclusion is equivalent to an input by construction. Similarly, the lack of a reported inter-rater reliability statistic for the paper meta-analysis is a methodological limitation, but it does not make the analysis circular. Overall, the derivation chain from data to conclusions is self-contained and does not reduce to the paper's inputs.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (3)
- domain assumption The top-4 security conferences (CCS, IEEE S&P, NDSS, USENIX Security) are representative of computer security research for 2024.
- domain assumption Manual coding with the provided codebook and keyword list reliably identifies ethics discussions and Menlo-related content in papers.
- domain assumption Interview participants' self-reports accurately reflect their ethical reasoning and practices.
read the original abstract
Ethical questions are discussed regularly in computer security. Still, researchers in computer security lack clear guidance on how to make, document, and assess ethical decisions in research when what is morally right or acceptable is not clear-cut. In this work, we give an overview of the discussion of ethical implications in current published work in computer security by reviewing all 1154 top-tier security papers published in 2024, finding inconsistent levels of ethics reporting with a strong focus of reporting institutional or ethics board approval, human subjects protection, and responsible disclosure, and a lack of discussion of balancing harms and benefits. We further report on the results of a semi-structured interview study with 24 computer security and privacy researchers (among whom were also: reviewers, ethics committee members, and/or program chairs) and their ethical decision-making both as authors and during peer review, finding a strong desire for ethical research, but a lack of consistency in considered values, ethical frameworks (if articulated), decision-making, and outcomes. We present an overview of the current state of the discussion of ethics and current de-facto standards in computer security research, and contribute suggestions to improve the state of ethics in computer security research.
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