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arxiv: 2509.18260 · v2 · submitted 2025-09-22 · 🌌 astro-ph.GA

Exploring the impact of AGN feedback model variations on the Lyman-α Forest Flux Power Spectrum

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The pith

Stronger AGN feedback suppresses the Lyman-alpha forest power spectrum only if it leaves the number of massive jet-producing black holes unchanged.

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The paper uses the CAMELS suite to vary parameters in the Simba AGN feedback model and measures the resulting changes to the one-dimensional transmitted flux power spectrum of the Lyman-alpha forest. Parameters such as supermassive black hole radiative efficiency, jet velocity threshold, and minimum black hole mass for jet production are explored for the first time in this context. The most massive black holes affect the forest mainly through their jet mode, where heating to virial temperature removes neutral hydrogen but also limits further jet activity. The central result is that increasing feedback strength reduces the power spectrum, provided this increase does not reduce the population of massive jet-producing black holes.

Core claim

Variations in the Simba AGN feedback model show that the Lyman-α forest 1D flux power spectrum responds primarily to jet feedback from the most massive supermassive black holes. Increasing AGN feedback strength suppresses the power spectrum, but only when the feedback does not alter the number of massive jet-producing black holes. Higher radiative efficiency suppresses black hole growth and thereby reduces later feedback, while jet heating clears neutral hydrogen yet inhibits additional jet production.

What carries the argument

The Simba subgrid AGN feedback model, specifically its jet mode triggered above a minimum black hole mass, which couples momentum and thermal energy injection to the surrounding gas.

If this is right

  • Stronger AGN jets heat gas to virial temperature, removing neutral hydrogen from the Lyman-alpha forest.
  • This same heating reduces further jet feedback by limiting black hole growth.
  • Higher radiative efficiency suppresses black hole growth and thereby lowers later AGN feedback.
  • Only black holes above the jet mass threshold produce the dominant effect on the forest power spectrum.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • AGN feedback implementations must separate direct impacts on the intergalactic medium from indirect changes to the black hole mass function.
  • Repeating the parameter scan in other simulation codes could test whether the conditional suppression depends on Simba-specific choices.
  • Observed Lyman-alpha forest statistics may need to be interpreted with allowance for how feedback strength correlates with black hole demographics.

Load-bearing premise

The Simba subgrid AGN feedback model and its parameter variations accurately capture the causal effects on the intergalactic medium without major numerical artifacts or unaccounted couplings between feedback channels and black hole population statistics.

What would settle it

Counting the number of massive black holes in simulation snapshots across feedback parameter variations and verifying that power-spectrum suppression appears only in runs where this count stays constant.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2509.18260 by Blakesley Burkhart, Megan Pirecki, Megan Taylor Tillman, Simeon Bird, Stephanie Tonnesen.

Figure 1
Figure 1. Figure 1: The Lyα forest transmitted 1D flux power spectrum for different redshifts varying the SMBH momentum flux (AAGN1). The top row is the P1D and the bottom row shows the ratios of the P1D relative to the fiducial. The black line is the fiducial simulation value while red corresponds to a high parameter value, and blue is the low parameter value. The dashed grey line is the 10% difference from the fiducial simu… view at source ↗
Figure 2
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Figure 6
Figure 6. Figure 6: The accretion rate density of SMBHs and the total number of SMBHs for both the radiative mode (top two plots) and the jet mode (bottom two plots) as a function of redshift for the BHRadiativeEff, BHJetTvirVel, and BHJetMassThr parameters. Similar data for AAGN1 and AAGN2 is presented in Tillman et al. (2023b). The colored lines correspond to the low, fiducial, and high values for each parameter. For BHJetM… view at source ↗
read the original abstract

We study the effects of varying different Active Galactic Nuclei (AGN) feedback parameters on the Lyman-$\alpha$ (Ly$\alpha$) forest 1D transmitted flux power spectrum (P1D). We use the Cosmological and Astrophysics with Machine Learning Simulations (CAMELS) suite to explore variations on the Simba simulation AGN feedback model. The parameters explored include AGN momentum flux, AGN jet speed, supermassive black hole (SMBH) radiative efficiency, jet velocity threshold, and minimum SMBH mass needed to produce jet feedback. Although all parameters affect the P1D, this work explores the radiative efficiency, jet velocity threshold, and minimum SMBH mass in this context for the first time and finds the following results: Primarily, the most massive SMBHs impact the Ly$\alpha$ forest through the jet feedback mode. While heating AGN jets to the virial temperature at injection aids in the removal of neutral hydrogen from the Ly$\alpha$ forest, this heating also inhibits further jet feedback. Similar behaviors are seen when varying the SMBH radiative efficiency, with higher values resulting in a suppression of SMBH growth and thus a later reduction in AGN feedback and lower values directly reducing the impact of AGN feedback on the Ly$\alpha$ forest P1D. These results imply that increasing the AGN feedback strength in the Simba simulation model suppresses the Ly$\alpha$ forest P1D, but only if the feedback does not impact the number of massive jet producing BHs. Future studies of AGN feedback models will require careful exploration of the unique aspects of the specific subgrid model, and how they interact with one another, for a complete understanding of the potential astrophysical impacts of SMBH feedback.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The manuscript uses the CAMELS suite to perform parameter variations on the Simba AGN feedback model and measures the resulting changes to the Lyman-α forest 1D transmitted flux power spectrum (P1D). It reports that the most massive SMBHs affect the forest primarily through the jet mode, that jet heating to virial temperature removes neutral hydrogen but self-limits further feedback, and that higher radiative efficiency suppresses SMBH growth and thereby reduces later AGN impact. The central result is the conditional statement that increasing AGN feedback strength suppresses the P1D only when the variation does not alter the number of massive jet-producing black holes.

Significance. If the reported trends are robust, the work demonstrates that subgrid AGN feedback implementations contain internal couplings that produce non-monotonic effects on IGM observables. This is relevant for cosmological analyses that rely on the Lyα forest P1D to constrain parameters, because it shows that model-specific interactions between radiative efficiency, BH growth, and jet demographics must be understood before feedback strength can be mapped to observable suppression.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract: The conditional qualifier in the headline result—that suppression of the P1D occurs 'only if the feedback does not impact the number of massive jet producing BHs'—is not isolated from self-consistent changes in the BH population. Parameters such as SMBH radiative efficiency, jet velocity threshold, and minimum SMBH mass for jet feedback directly modulate accretion and growth rates in the Simba subgrid model, so an increase in one channel can reduce the count of BHs above the jet threshold. Without a control run that holds the BH mass function fixed (or post-hoc reweighting), the observed P1D changes cannot be unambiguously attributed to direct IGM heating versus altered BH demographics.
  2. [Results] Results section (parameter sweeps): The manuscript presents qualitative trends but does not report quantitative error bars on the P1D measurements, convergence tests with respect to resolution or volume, or the precise definition of the 'suppression' metric used to compare runs. These omissions make it difficult to judge whether the reported differences exceed numerical or cosmic variance uncertainties.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Introduction] The abstract states that the work 'explores the radiative efficiency, jet velocity threshold, and minimum SMBH mass in this context for the first time'; a brief literature comparison in the introduction would help readers assess the degree of novelty.
  2. Notation for the 1D power spectrum is given as P1D; consistent use of this abbreviation (or explicit definition on first use) throughout the text would improve readability.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

2 responses · 1 unresolved

We thank the referee for their careful reading of the manuscript and for the constructive comments. Below we respond point by point to the major comments, indicating where revisions will be made and where limitations of the present study prevent a complete response.

read point-by-point responses
  1. Referee: The conditional qualifier in the headline result—that suppression of the P1D occurs 'only if the feedback does not impact the number of massive jet producing BHs'—is not isolated from self-consistent changes in the BH population. Parameters such as SMBH radiative efficiency, jet velocity threshold, and minimum SMBH mass for jet feedback directly modulate accretion and growth rates in the Simba subgrid model, so an increase in one channel can reduce the count of BHs above the jet threshold. Without a control run that holds the BH mass function fixed (or post-hoc reweighting), the observed P1D changes cannot be unambiguously attributed to direct IGM heating versus altered BH demographics.

    Authors: We agree that the explored parameters affect both the strength of AGN feedback and the demographics of the black-hole population through the self-consistent evolution built into the Simba model. The central result of the paper is precisely this conditional dependence, which arises naturally from the internal couplings of the subgrid implementation. The parameter variations we consider are those provided by the CAMELS suite; the observed non-monotonic behavior on the P1D is therefore a direct consequence of how changes in radiative efficiency, jet threshold, or minimum jet mass alter both heating and the number of jet-producing BHs. A dedicated control simulation that holds the BH mass function fixed would require new runs outside the existing CAMELS data set. We will add a paragraph in the discussion section clarifying that the reported P1D changes include both direct IGM heating and demographic effects, and we will note the absence of a fixed-BHMF control as a limitation for future work. revision: partial

  2. Referee: The manuscript presents qualitative trends but does not report quantitative error bars on the P1D measurements, convergence tests with respect to resolution or volume, or the precise definition of the 'suppression' metric used to compare runs. These omissions make it difficult to judge whether the reported differences exceed numerical or cosmic variance uncertainties.

    Authors: We acknowledge that quantitative error bars, convergence information, and an explicit definition of the suppression metric were not provided. In the revised manuscript we will (i) report error bars on the P1D derived from the ensemble variance across the CAMELS realizations, (ii) include a brief convergence discussion using the resolution and volume variations already available in the CAMELS suite, and (iii) define the suppression metric explicitly (e.g., the ratio of P1D(k) in each varied run to the fiducial run, evaluated at representative wavenumbers). revision: yes

standing simulated objections not resolved
  • Performing new control simulations that hold the black-hole mass function fixed in order to fully separate direct feedback heating from demographic changes, as such runs lie outside the CAMELS simulation suite used for this study.

Circularity Check

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No circularity: results from direct simulation parameter sweeps

full rationale

The paper's central findings are obtained by executing CAMELS-Simba simulations with explicit variations in AGN subgrid parameters (radiative efficiency, jet velocity threshold, minimum SMBH mass) and then measuring the transmitted flux P1D directly from the simulation outputs. No step reduces a claimed prediction or result to a fitted input by construction, nor does any load-bearing premise rest on a self-citation chain that itself assumes the target outcome. The conditional statement about feedback strength and BH demographics is an empirical observation from the runs, not a definitional equivalence. Self-citations to the Simba or CAMELS frameworks supply the simulation code but do not substitute for the independent parameter explorations performed here.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

5 free parameters · 2 axioms · 0 invented entities

The central claim depends on the fidelity of the Simba AGN subgrid model and the assumption that individual parameter variations can be isolated. Several free parameters are the varied AGN feedback settings themselves. No new physical entities are postulated.

free parameters (5)
  • AGN momentum flux
    One of the varied parameters in the Simba AGN feedback model.
  • AGN jet speed
    One of the varied parameters in the Simba AGN feedback model.
  • SMBH radiative efficiency
    Explored for the first time in this context; directly affects feedback impact.
  • jet velocity threshold
    Explored for the first time in this context; controls jet production.
  • minimum SMBH mass for jet feedback
    Explored for the first time in this context; sets threshold for massive BHs.
axioms (2)
  • domain assumption The Simba simulation subgrid model correctly represents AGN feedback physics and its coupling to the intergalactic medium.
    All results rest on the validity of this particular feedback implementation.
  • ad hoc to paper Individual AGN feedback parameters can be varied independently while holding other aspects of the simulation fixed.
    The exploration design assumes such isolation is possible without hidden couplings.

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    We study the effects of varying different Active Galactic Nuclei (AGN) feedback parameters on the Lyman-α forest 1D transmitted flux power spectrum (P1D). We use the Cosmological and Astrophysics with Machine Learning Simulations (CAMELS) suite to explore variations on the Simba simulation AGN feedback model.

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    These results imply that increasing the AGN feedback strength in the Simba simulation model suppresses the Lyα forest P1D, but only if the feedback does not impact the number of massive jet producing BHs.

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