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For a Floquet non-Hermitian SSH chain, edge-state counts remain well defined only through the singular values of U(T)±I in the thermodynamic limit, not through the raw quasienergy spectrum.

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load-bearing objection The proposed singular-value bulk-boundary correspondence for Floquet non-Hermitian systems is unsupported and appears to contradict the paper's own Fig. 2, which shows the very edge states the method is meant to count are destroyed by infinitesimal chiral disorder. the 4 major comments →

arxiv 2510.09193 v1 pith:QHPLVBZG submitted 2025-10-10 quant-ph

Breakdown of Non-Bloch Bulk-Boundary Correspondence and Emergent Topology in Floquet Non-Hermitian Systems

Hong Wu , Xue-Min Yang , Hui Liu This is my paper
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keywords non-Hermitian Floquet topologybulk-boundary correspondencesingular value decompositionnon-Bloch band theorydriven non-Hermitian SSH modelquasienergy spectrum instabilitytopological edge statesskin effect
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The pith

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The reading

The paper studies a periodically driven non-Hermitian Su-Schrieffer-Heeger (SSH) chain—a one-dimensional lattice with two sites per unit cell and alternating, non-reciprocal hoppings. It argues that the usual story of topologically protected edge states can fail: infinitesimal perturbations that preserve sublattice symmetry can destroy the edge states, because the open-boundary quasienergy spectrum (the eigenvalues of the effective Hamiltonian defined over one driving period, modulo 2π/T) is unstable in finite systems. The authors locate this failure in the breakdown of non-Bloch bulk–boundary correspondence based on the generalized Brillouin zone. The repair is to track singular values of the one-period evolution operator U(T)±I rather than eigenvalues of U(T). The central claim is that the number of stable zero singular values of U(T)-I and U(T)+I equals the number of topologically protected edge states at quasienergies 0 and π/T in the thermodynamic limit. If true, this restores a bulk–boundary correspondence for Floquet non-Hermitian systems that does not require symmetry and survives disorder.

Core claim

Using the one-dimensional non-Hermitian Floquet SSH model, the paper establishes that topologically protected edge states can be suppressed by arbitrarily small sublattice-symmetry-preserving disorder, and traces this to the instability of the finite-size quasienergy spectrum. It then shows that the singular spectrum of U(T)±I is stable under such perturbations, and that the number of zero singular values of U(T)-I (U(T)+I) counts the right and left edge states at quasienergy 0 (π/T) in the thermodynamic limit. The momentum-space invariants V1 and V2 are defined by the winding of det(U(T)∓I) across the ordinary Brillouin zone; real-space variants V'_1 and V'_2 are constructed from the singul

What carries the argument

The load-bearing object is the shifted one-period evolution operator U(T)±I and its singular-value spectrum. Rather than asking whether U(T) has eigenvalues on the unit circle—an unstable question for finite non-Hermitian systems—the paper asks whether U(T)-I or U(T)+I has zero singular values; such zeros persist under perturbation and mark edge states at quasienergy 0 or π/T in the thermodynamic limit. Two winding numbers, V1 and V2, count the winding of det(U(T)∓I) in momentum space, and real-space versions V'_1 and V'_2 are defined from the singular-value decomposition U(T)±I = U_A s U_B† through the winding number of a doubled chiral-symmetric operator. The singular-value spectra are the

Load-bearing premise

The claim rests on the unproved assertion that [U(T)±I]†[U(T)±I] has the same bulk band under open and periodic boundary conditions; if that boundary-insensitivity of the singular bulk spectrum fails, the momentum-space winding numbers V1 and V2 would not count open-boundary edge states.

What would settle it

Compute the low-lying singular spectrum of U(T)-I and U(T)+I for a long open chain and for the same chain under periodic boundary conditions at fixed parameters; if the bulk singular bands do not converge to a common limiting curve as L grows, the restored bulk–boundary correspondence fails. The claim would also be falsified by any parameter regime where zero singular values persist but no edge states appear in the thermodynamic quasienergy spectrum, or where chiral-symmetry-preserving disorder suppresses the zero singular values themselves.

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If this is right

  • In the thermodynamic limit, the number of stable zero singular values of U(T)±I gives the number of 0-mode and π/T-mode edge states, restoring a bulk–boundary correspondence where the generalized Brillouin zone method fails.
  • The invariants V1 and V2 require no chiral or sublattice symmetry, so driven non-Hermitian systems can carry symmetry-free topology.
  • 0-gap and π/T-gap topology can coexist, producing phases with up to three edge states in the driven chain.
  • The singular-value counting method is claimed to generalize to multiband non-Hermitian Floquet models, offering a broad tool for classifying these phases.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • If the singular bulk band of [U(T)±I]†[U(T)±I] is truly insensitive to open versus periodic boundaries, the same construction could define non-Hermitian Floquet invariants on disordered lattices where translational-invariance-based winding numbers are undefined.
  • A natural extension would be to test whether the zero singular values remain pinned when the perturbation breaks sublattice symmetry or adds gain/loss beyond the non-reciprocal hop; the paper's symmetry-free claim suggests they should, but that goes beyond what is demonstrated.
  • The OBC/PBC invariance of the singular spectrum is mathematically a statement about large truncated versions of a single-particle operator; proving it explicitly would place the restoration on a theorem-level footing comparable to the index argument used for the momentum-space invariants.
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Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

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Summary. The manuscript studies a periodically driven non-Hermitian Su-Schrieffer-Heeger chain. It first shows that the OBC quasienergy spectrum, including its 0- and π/T-mode edge states, is highly sensitive to chiral-symmetric disorder, and argues that this finite-size instability causes a breakdown of the non-Bloch bulk-boundary correspondence based on the generalized Brillouin zone. To repair the correspondence, the authors propose to use the singular values of U(T)±I, asserting that stable zero singular values count the topologically protected 0- and π/T-mode edge states in the thermodynamic limit. They define momentum-space winding numbers V1,V2 and real-space invariants V'_1,V'_2, and use them to produce a phase diagram with up to three coexisting edge modes.

Significance. If correct, the proposed singular-value formulation would give a bulk-boundary correspondence for Floquet non-Hermitian systems that is robust against the quasienergy instabilities that plague the conventional non-Bloch approach. The algebraic identities in Eqs. (6)-(7) are straightforward and correct, and the model is simple enough to be a useful testbed. However, the central physical claims — stability of the zero singular values and boundary insensitivity of the bulk singular spectrum — are asserted rather than proved, and the paper's own numerical results appear to contradict the stability claim. The manuscript currently lacks the evidence needed to support its main conclusion.

major comments (4)
  1. [Restoration of bulk-boundary correspondence in momentum space, after Eq. (7)] The statement "the singular spectrum is highly robust to perturbations, as demonstrated in Fig. 2" is not supported by Fig. 2. Figure 2(b)-(c) shows that the 0-mode and π/T-mode quasienergies are suppressed by arbitrarily small chiral-symmetric disorder, and Fig. 2 contains no singular-spectrum computation. Moreover, a zero singular value of U(T)±I is exactly equivalent to U(T) having an eigenvalue ±1, i.e., an exact 0 or π/T quasienergy. Thus robustness of zero singular values is logically the same as robustness of exact 0/π edge quasienergies. The paper must provide either a proof or a finite-size scaling analysis showing that the zero singular values survive in the thermodynamic limit despite the finite-size suppression shown in Fig. 2. Without this, the correspondence has no demonstrated object to count.
  2. [Restoration of bulk-boundary correspondence in momentum space, fourth paragraph] The assertion that "[U(T)±I]†[U(T)±I] has the same bulk band under both open and periodic boundary conditions" is load-bearing but completely unproved. It is used to justify computing the PBC winding numbers V1 and V2 in Eqs. (8)-(9) and then comparing them with OBC singular spectra in Fig. 3. This is a nontrivial statement for a non-Hermitian system whose ordinary quasienergy spectrum is explicitly boundary-sensitive, as the paper itself demonstrates. The authors should either prove this boundary insensitivity for their model using an appropriate Toeplitz/Szegő-type theorem or provide a detailed numerical verification, including system-size scaling.
  3. [Restoration of bulk-boundary correspondence in real space, Eqs. (10)-(13)] The real-space invariants V'_1 and V'_2 are claimed to be a more general scheme that retrieves the bulk-boundary correspondence, but no derivation or numerical validation is provided. The notation is also opaque: P^S_± = U^†_{S,±} P U_{S,±} and P_{ll'} = δ_{ll'}e^{-i2πl/L} do not clearly define the matrix being traced in Eqs. (11)-(12). The authors should state explicitly how these invariants count edge states, prove their quantization, and show that they reproduce the V1/V2 results in the clean limit.
  4. [Abstract and Conclusion] The claim that the proposed topology is intrinsic and exists "even without symmetries" is not established by the manuscript. All numerical examples use a chiral-symmetric model and chiral-symmetric disorder, and the derivation of the boundary-insensitive bulk singular spectrum is absent. While V1 and V2 are well-defined winding numbers that do not require chiral symmetry, the bulk-boundary correspondence for these invariants in the absence of symmetry is not demonstrated. At minimum, the authors should qualify this claim or provide a concrete symmetry-free example.
minor comments (5)
  1. [Fig. 2 caption and text] The caption says "green and crimson line" but the text refers to "green and crimson line" without clearly identifying which curve is which. Also "when dis samll" should be "when d is small."
  2. [Eqs. (11)-(13)] The definitions of P_A, P_B, and U_{S,±} should be written out more carefully; the current notation makes it difficult to reproduce the real-space invariant.
  3. [Fig. 3] The claim that the singular spectra "can be well characterized" by V1 and V2 is only qualitative. It would be helpful to state explicitly the number of zero singular values in each regime and the corresponding value of V1/V2.
  4. [Experimental realization] The sentence "The topological modes can be detected by Loschmidt echo" is unsupported by a reference or derivation. Please add a citation or briefly explain the detection protocol.
  5. [Throughout] There are several typographical errors (e.g., "signifcantly", inconsistent capitalization of "we" after commas). A careful proofread is recommended.

Circularity Check

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The zero-singular-value/edge-state correspondence is definitional, and the real-space invariants count their own input; momentum-space winding numbers retain independent content via Gohberg's theorem.

specific steps
  1. self definitional [Restoration of bulk-boundary correspondence in Floquet non-Hermitian systems in momentum space, after Eq. (7)]
    "When lim_{L→∞} s_{−}=0 (lim_{L→∞} s_{+}=0), the quasienergies can have a 0-mode (π/T-mode) states in thermodynamic limit. Within this framework, the number of zero-mode singular values is directly linked to the number of topologically protected edge states in the quasienergy spectrum."

    A zero singular value of U(T)−I is exactly a zero eigenvalue of U(T)−I, i.e. an eigenvalue 1 of U(T), i.e. a state at quasienergy 0. Therefore the 'link' between zero singular values and 0-mode edge states is the definition of a 0-mode state, not a derived correspondence. The qualifier 'topologically protected' is precisely what the paper sets out to prove, so the conclusion is imported into the statement.

  2. self definitional [Restoration of bulk-boundary correspondence in Floquet non-Hermitian systems in real space, after Eq. (13)]
    "The eigenvalues of \tilde{H} are given by s_{n,±} and −s_{n,±}, where s_{n,±} represents the singular values of U(T)±I. ... Here, the total number of right and left 0-mode (π/T-mode) edge states in quasienergies is V′_1 (V′_2)."

    V′_1 is defined as the winding number of \tilde{H}_−, whose kernel is the kernel of U(T)−I; hence by construction V′_1 equals the number of zero singular values of U(T)−I. Calling that count the number of 0-mode edge states identifies the output with the input: the real-space invariant and the 'edge-state number' are the same object. The real-space bulk-boundary correspondence thus reduces to a tautology.

full rationale

The paper's central statement that zero-mode singular values 'are directly linked' to topologically protected edge states is true by definition: s=0 for U(T)±I is equivalent to U(T) having eigenvalue ∓1, i.e. quasienergy 0 or π/T. This makes the proposed 'correspondence' a restatement rather than an independent result. The real-space invariants V′_1, V′_2 are constructed from the SVD of U(T)±I, so their counting zero singular values is built in, not a derived bulk-boundary correspondence. However, the momentum-space invariants V1 and V2 are independent bulk integrals, and their connection to OBC zero modes is supported by Gohberg's index theorem (an external reference), with numerical agreement in Fig. 3. No parameters are fitted, and the paper does not rely on load-bearing self-citation. The assertion that the singular spectrum 'is highly robust to perturbations, as demonstrated in Fig. 2' is not supported by Fig. 2, which instead shows fragility of the quasienergy (and hence exact 0/π) states; this is a correctness concern more than a circular reduction. Overall, the central claim is partially definitional, but enough independent content remains to avoid a higher circularity score.

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The paper's central claim rests on standard theorems (Floquet, Gohberg, chiral symmetry) plus two unproved stability assertions specific to this work: singular-value robustness and OBC/PBC equality of the squared singular-value operator. No free parameters are fitted to data; the model parameters (w=1, γ=1.5, q=2, T1=T2=0.7, f scan) are numerical choices. No new physical entities are introduced; 'singular states' is a mathematical shorthand for zero singular vectors of U(T)±I.

axioms (6)
  • standard math Floquet theorem and definition of quasienergy through H_eff ≡ (i/T) ln U(T).
    Used in Section 2 to define 0-mode and π/T-mode states; standard result for periodic time-dependent systems.
  • standard math Gohberg's index theorem: the winding of det(U−λI) gives the difference between numbers of right and left eigenvalues of H_eff in the loop.
    Invoked in momentum-space restoration to connect V1/V2 to edge-state counts; theorem accepted but the application to finite open-boundary systems is not detailed.
  • domain assumption Chiral symmetry ΓH(t)Γ = −H(t) at every instant implies ΓU(T)Γ = U(T)^{-1}.
    Motivates the symmetry-preserving disorder and the 0/π quasienergy classification; relation follows from the time-ordered exponential but is not shown explicitly.
  • ad hoc to paper Singular values of U(T)±I are stable under symmetry-preserving perturbations in the thermodynamic limit.
    Core of the proposed method; asserted with reference to Fig. 2, which actually shows quasienergy spectra and WIPR, not singular spectra. No theorem is provided.
  • ad hoc to paper [U±I]†[U±I] has the same bulk band under open and periodic boundary conditions.
    Load-bearing bridge that lets the authors continue to use standard-BZ winding numbers despite the skin effect; stated without proof.
  • domain assumption Real-space winding formula (Eqs. 11-12) for H̃± counts open-boundary edge states for non-Hermitian Floquet U as in the Hermitian static case of Ref. [56].
    Imported from Lin, Ke, Lee (PRB 103, 224208); the extension to non-Hermitian Floquet systems is assumed, not demonstrated.

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Topological edge states in gaps of non-Hermitian systems are robust due to topological protection. Using the non-Hermitian Floquet Su-Schrieffer-Heeger model, we show that this robustness can break down: edge states may be suppressed by infinitesimal perturbations that preserve sublattice symmetry. We identify this fragility to the instability of the quasienergy spectrum in finite-size systems, leading to a breakdown of the non-Bloch bulk-boundary correspondence defined on the generalized Brillouin zone. To resolve this, we establish a correspondence between the number of stable zero-mode singular states and the topologically protected edge states in the thermodynamic limit. Our results formulate a bulk-boundary correspondence for Floquet non-Hermitian systems, where topology arises intrinsically from the driven non-Hermitian systems, even without symmetries. Our results provide a promising new avenue for exploring novel non-Hermitian topological phases.

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