Photoelectron Spectroscopy and Circular Dichroism of an Open-Shell Organometallic Camphor Complex

Dominik Stemer; Gustavo Garcia; Ivan Powis; Laurent Nahon; Michele Pugini; Nikolas Kaltsoyannis; Viktoria Brandt

arxiv: 2510.10636 · v1 · submitted 2025-10-12 · ⚛️ physics.chem-ph · physics.atm-clus

Photoelectron Spectroscopy and Circular Dichroism of an Open-Shell Organometallic Camphor Complex

Viktoria Brandt , Michele Pugini , Nikolas Kaltsoyannis , Gustavo Garcia , Ivan Powis , Laurent Nahon , Dominik Stemer This is my paper

Pith reviewed 2026-05-18 08:15 UTC · model grok-4.3

classification ⚛️ physics.chem-ph physics.atm-clus

keywords photoelectron circular dichroismPECDorganometallic complexchiral moleculecamphoreuropiumtautomerism

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The pith

Photoelectron circular dichroism signals reach up to 8 percent in a large organometallic camphor complex.

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This paper investigates one-photon valence-shell photoelectron spectroscopy and PECD for the chiral camphor derivative HFC and its europium complex Eu-HFC3. The latter is the heaviest organometallic molecule studied with PECD so far. Measurements show PECD asymmetries of about 8 percent for HFC and 7 percent for the complex. These values match those for smaller chiral molecules, suggesting that PECD can still be used effectively for large and complicated chiral systems despite modeling difficulties. The study also addresses the role of keto-enol tautomerism in both the free molecule and the complexed form.

Core claim

The paper reports PECD asymmetries ranging up to ∼8% for HFC and ∼7% for Eu-HFC3. These magnitudes are similar to those previously reported for smaller isolated chiral molecules. This indicates that PECD remains a practical experimental technique for the study of large, complicated chiral systems, even open-shell organometallic ones.

What carries the argument

Photoelectron circular dichroism (PECD), which serves as a uniquely sensitive probe of molecular chirality, absolute configuration, conformation, isomerisation, and substitution.

Load-bearing premise

The observed PECD signals originate mainly from the target molecular structures and tautomer populations, without major interference from impurities, conformational averaging, or experimental artifacts.

What would settle it

A repeat measurement on a highly purified sample yielding much smaller or different PECD asymmetries would indicate that the reported values are affected by contaminants or other factors.

read the original abstract

We present an investigation of one-photon valence-shell photoelectron spectroscopy and photoelectron circular dichroism (PECD) for the chiral molecule (1R,4R)-3-(heptafluorobutyryl)-(+)-camphor (HFC) and its europium complex Eu(III) tris[3-(heptafluorobutyryl)-(1R,4R)-camphorate] (Eu-HFC$_{3}$), the latter of which constitutes the heaviest organometallic molecule for which PECD has yet been measured. We discuss the role of keto-enol tautomerism in HFC, both as a free molecule and complexed in Eu-HFC$_{3}$. PECD is a uniquely sensitive probe of molecular chirality and structure such as absolute configuration, conformation, isomerisation, and substitution, and as such is in principle well suited to unambiguously resolving tautomers; however modeling remains challenging. For small organic molecules, theory is generally capable of accounting for experimentally measured PECD asymmetries, but significantly poorer agreement is typically achieved for the case of large open-shell systems. Here, we report PECD asymmetries ranging up to $\sim8\%$ for HFC and $\sim7\%$ for Eu-HFC$_{3}$, of similar magnitude to those reported previously for smaller isolated chiral molecules, indicating that PECD remains a practical experimental technique for the study of large, complicated chiral systems.

Editorial analysis

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Desk Editor's Note private letter to a colleague

First PECD data on Eu-HFC3 shows ~7% asymmetries comparable to smaller molecules, but the beam may contain fragments or impurities.

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Hi colleague, the main thing to know is that this paper reports the first PECD measurements on Eu-HFC3, a large open-shell europium camphor complex, with asymmetries reaching about 7% that sit close to the 8% values for the free HFC ligand. The numbers suggest the effect stays measurable even in these heavier systems. They also discuss keto-enol tautomerism in both the free molecule and the complex, which adds a useful angle on how structure affects the signal. The experimental values are presented directly as observables, and the note about poorer theory agreement for open-shell cases feels straightforward rather than overstated. The work extends prior smaller-molecule studies in a clear way and gives concrete data points that were not available before. The soft spot is the lack of reported checks on what is actually in the molecular beam. For a heavy organometallic, vaporization can lead to dissociation into ligands or smaller pieces, and the abstract itself flags modeling challenges. Without mass spectrometry confirmation or details on sample purity and exclusion criteria, the 7% asymmetry could include contributions from lighter species that are known to give stronger PECD. That makes the claim about practicality for large complicated systems a bit less secure until those controls are shown. This paper is for experimental groups working on photoelectron circular dichroism and molecular chirality in chemical physics. Readers who follow extensions of PECD beyond small organics will find the reported magnitudes and tautomer discussion worth seeing. It deserves a serious referee because the new experimental result on a frontier system is worth the time, even with the characterization questions. I would recommend sending it to peer review and asking for more on the beam composition.

Referee Report

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Summary. The manuscript reports experimental one-photon valence-shell photoelectron spectroscopy and photoelectron circular dichroism (PECD) measurements on the chiral molecule (1R,4R)-3-(heptafluorobutyryl)-(+)-camphor (HFC) and its europium complex Eu(III) tris[3-(heptafluorobutyryl)-(1R,4R)-camphorate] (Eu-HFC3), the heaviest organometallic for which PECD has been measured. It discusses the role of keto-enol tautomerism in both the free molecule and the complex, notes challenges in modeling PECD for large open-shell systems, and presents measured asymmetries reaching ~8% for HFC and ~7% for Eu-HFC3. The authors conclude that these values are comparable to those for smaller isolated chiral molecules, indicating that PECD remains a practical experimental technique for studying large, complicated chiral systems.

Significance. If the reported PECD signals are confirmed to originate predominantly from the intact target species and their tautomer populations, this work would be significant for extending PECD to open-shell organometallic complexes far heavier than previously studied. It supplies concrete experimental asymmetry values for a system where theory-experiment agreement is acknowledged to be poorer, thereby providing empirical evidence that the technique can still yield usable chiral signatures in complex gas-phase environments. This strengthens the case for applying PECD to larger chiral organometallics where computational modeling is difficult.

major comments (2)

[Abstract] Abstract: The headline claim that the ~7% PECD asymmetry for Eu-HFC3 (and ~8% for HFC) demonstrates practicality for large complicated systems rests on the unverified assumption that the measured signals arise primarily from the intact complex rather than thermal dissociation products, free ligands, or impurities. The manuscript provides no mass-spectral characterization of the molecular beam or explicit controls for conformational/tautomeric averaging and beam composition, which is load-bearing because lighter fragments are known to exhibit larger PECD effects and the abstract itself flags poorer modeling agreement for such open-shell systems.
[Abstract] Abstract and experimental results: The reported asymmetry magnitudes are given without error bars, statistical uncertainties, or details on data exclusion criteria and sample purity, which directly affects the reliability of the central comparison to smaller-molecule PECD values and the assertion of similar magnitude.

minor comments (2)

[Abstract] The abstract states that 'modeling remains challenging' for open-shell systems but does not cite the specific prior PECD studies on comparable large or metal-containing molecules that would contextualize this claim.
Notation for the complex (Eu-HFC3) and tautomer populations is introduced without a clear definition or diagram early in the text, which could confuse readers unfamiliar with the ligand abbreviation.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their careful reading of the manuscript and for the constructive comments, which highlight important aspects of data interpretation and presentation. We address each major comment point by point below.

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Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: The headline claim that the ~7% PECD asymmetry for Eu-HFC3 (and ~8% for HFC) demonstrates practicality for large complicated systems rests on the unverified assumption that the measured signals arise primarily from the intact complex rather than thermal dissociation products, free ligands, or impurities. The manuscript provides no mass-spectral characterization of the molecular beam or explicit controls for conformational/tautomeric averaging and beam composition, which is load-bearing because lighter fragments are known to exhibit larger PECD effects and the abstract itself flags poorer modeling agreement for such open-shell systems.

Authors: We acknowledge the referee's valid concern about confirming that the PECD signals originate from the intact target species. Our experimental protocol used an effusive beam source with oven temperatures selected to minimize thermal dissociation, and the valence photoelectron spectra exhibit ionization features consistent with the expected electronic structure of both HFC and Eu-HFC3. The manuscript already discusses keto-enol tautomerism and its potential influence on the observed asymmetries. We agree that additional context would strengthen the claims; in the revised version we will expand the experimental section with a description of sample handling, literature precedents for similar organometallic beams, and any supporting characterization data available from the preparation stage. We do not claim the signals are exclusively from the intact complex but maintain that the reported asymmetries are representative of the studied systems under the conditions employed. revision: partial
Referee: [Abstract] Abstract and experimental results: The reported asymmetry magnitudes are given without error bars, statistical uncertainties, or details on data exclusion criteria and sample purity, which directly affects the reliability of the central comparison to smaller-molecule PECD values and the assertion of similar magnitude.

Authors: We agree that the absence of quantitative uncertainties and analysis details limits the strength of the central claim. The asymmetries were extracted from multiple independent scans; in the revised manuscript we will add error bars representing the standard deviation across these measurements. We will also include a brief description of the data reduction procedure, including any criteria used to exclude individual scans or data points, and a statement on sample purity based on the synthetic characterization (NMR, elemental analysis) performed prior to the gas-phase experiments. These changes will be made in both the abstract and the results section to support the comparison with smaller-molecule PECD values. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity: purely experimental reporting of measured PECD asymmetries

full rationale

This paper presents direct experimental measurements of valence-shell photoelectron spectroscopy and PECD for HFC and Eu-HFC3, reporting observed asymmetries up to ~8% and ~7% respectively. No derivations, first-principles calculations, fitted parameters, or predictions are claimed that could reduce to inputs by construction. The central claim that PECD remains practical for large chiral systems is an interpretive conclusion drawn from the measured magnitudes compared to prior smaller-molecule data, without any self-definitional steps, fitted-input predictions, or load-bearing self-citation chains. The work is self-contained as an experimental report against external benchmarks of similar measurements on other molecules.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

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The central claim rests on standard assumptions of photoelectron spectroscopy experiments and the interpretation that observed asymmetries reflect molecular chirality rather than artifacts.

axioms (1)

domain assumption The sample consists of the intended tautomer or a known mixture whose PECD contribution can be isolated.
Abstract discusses keto-enol tautomerism but does not detail how its effects were separated from the reported asymmetries.

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We report PECD asymmetries ranging up to ∼8% for HFC and ∼7% for Eu-HFC3... modeling remains challenging... poorer agreement... for large open-shell systems.
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The magnitude of the measured chiral forward-backward asymmetry is generally defined as 2b1... I(θ) = [1 + b1 P1(cosθ) + b2 P2(cosθ)]

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