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· Lean TheoremHigh-Coherence and High-frequency Quantum Computing: The Design of a High-Frequency, High-Coherence and Scalable Quantum Computing Architecture
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The pith
A proposed 8-qubit transmon chip operates at 12 GHz using tantalum and niobium tri-layer junctions to reach 1.9 ms relaxation times and quality factors of 2.75 x 10^7.
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Core claim
The report presents the proposal and preliminary design of an 8-qubit transmon architecture (with possible upgrade to up to 72 qubits on a chip) working beyond 10 GHz in the range of 11 to 13.5 GHz, with a central optimal operating frequency of 12.0 GHz and a new connection topology, with the aim to achieve average relaxation times of up to 1.9 ms with average quality factors of up to 2.75 x 10^7 by exploiting advances in superconducting junction manufacturing using tantalum and niobium/aluminum/aluminum oxide tri-layer structures on high-resistivity silicon substrates.
What carries the argument
High-frequency transmon qubit design using tantalum and Nb/Al/AlOx tri-layer junctions on high-resistivity silicon, together with a new connection topology for the multi-qubit layout.
Load-bearing premise
The referenced advances in tantalum and Nb/Al/AlOx tri-layer junction fabrication will deliver the stated coherence times and quality factors when operated in the 11-13.5 GHz range without new high-frequency loss mechanisms.
What would settle it
Fabricated devices measured at 12 GHz showing average relaxation times well below 1.9 ms or quality factors well below 2.75 x 10^7 would disprove the performance targets.
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read the original abstract
High-coherence, fault-tolerant and scalable quantum computing architectures with unprecedented long coherence times, faster gates, low losses and low bit-flip errors may be one of the only ways forward to achieve the true quantum advantage. In this context, high-frequency high-coherence (HCQC) qubits with new high-performance topologies could be a significant step towards efficient and high-fidelity quantum computing by facilitating compact size, higher scalability and higher than conventional operating temperatures. Although transmon type qubits are designed and manufactured routinely in the range of a few Giga-Hertz, normally from 4 to 6 GHz (and, at times, up to around 10GHz), achieving higher-frequency operation has challenges and entails special design and manufacturing considerations. This report presents the proposal and preliminary design of an 8-qubit transmon (with possible upgrade to up to 72 qubits on a chip) architecture working beyond an operation frequency of 10GHz, as well as presents a new connection topology. The current design spans a range of around 11 to 13.5 GHz (with a possible full range of 9-12GHz at the moment), with a central optimal operating frequency of 12.0 GHz, with the aim to possibly achieve a stable, compact and low-charge-noise operation, as lowest as possible as per the existing fabrication techniques. The aim is to achieve average relaxation times of up to 1.9ms with average quality factors of up to 2.75 x 10^7 after trials, while exploiting the new advances in superconducting junction manufacturing using tantalum and niobium/aluminum/aluminum oxide tri-layer structures on high-resistivity silicon substrates (carried out elsewhere by other groups and referred in this report).
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript proposes a preliminary design for an 8-qubit (scalable to 72-qubit) transmon architecture operating in the 11–13.5 GHz band with a central frequency of 12 GHz. It introduces a new connection topology and targets average relaxation times of 1.9 ms and quality factors of 2.75 × 10^7 by leveraging external advances in tantalum and Nb/Al/AlOx tri-layer junctions fabricated on high-resistivity silicon, with the performance figures presented as aims to be realized after trials.
Significance. If the stated coherence and quality-factor targets can be realized at these elevated frequencies, the architecture could enable more compact qubit layouts, faster gates, and improved scalability for fault-tolerant quantum computing. The design's emphasis on high-frequency operation and new topologies is a potentially useful contribution to the literature on superconducting qubit engineering, provided the projections are substantiated.
major comments (2)
- [Abstract] Abstract: The central performance targets (T1 up to 1.9 ms and Q up to 2.75 × 10^7 at 12 GHz) are presented as design aims based on cited external fabrication results. No frequency-dependent loss modeling, electromagnetic simulations, or scaling analysis is supplied to justify why the referenced lower-frequency coherence data remain valid in the 11–13.5 GHz regime, where mechanisms such as quasiparticle generation, dielectric-loss scaling with ω, or radiation into higher-order modes could degrade performance.
- The manuscript states that the targets will be achieved 'after trials' but supplies neither a quantitative estimate of additional high-frequency loss channels nor any circuit-QED simulation of the proposed geometry at the target frequencies. This leaves the load-bearing claim that the architecture can meet the quoted metrics unsupported by internal analysis.
minor comments (1)
- [Abstract] The sentence 'with the aim to possibly achieve a stable, compact and low-charge-noise operation, as lowest as possible as per the existing fabrication techniques' is grammatically awkward and should be rephrased for clarity.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their insightful comments regarding the justification of the high-frequency performance targets. We have revised the manuscript to address these concerns by adding discussions on potential loss mechanisms and clarifying the preliminary nature of our design proposal.
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Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: The central performance targets (T1 up to 1.9 ms and Q up to 2.75 × 10^7 at 12 GHz) are presented as design aims based on cited external fabrication results. No frequency-dependent loss modeling, electromagnetic simulations, or scaling analysis is supplied to justify why the referenced lower-frequency coherence data remain valid in the 11–13.5 GHz regime, where mechanisms such as quasiparticle generation, dielectric-loss scaling with ω, or radiation into higher-order modes could degrade performance.
Authors: We acknowledge the validity of this observation. The targets are extrapolated from lower-frequency results cited in the manuscript. In the revised version, we have added a new paragraph in the design section discussing frequency-dependent loss mechanisms, including references to studies on quasiparticle effects and dielectric losses at higher frequencies. We emphasize that the design aims to leverage material improvements to mitigate these effects, though full quantitative modeling is left for future experimental work. The abstract has been updated to reflect this. revision: yes
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Referee: [—] The manuscript states that the targets will be achieved 'after trials' but supplies neither a quantitative estimate of additional high-frequency loss channels nor any circuit-QED simulation of the proposed geometry at the target frequencies. This leaves the load-bearing claim that the architecture can meet the quoted metrics unsupported by internal analysis.
Authors: We agree that additional analysis would be beneficial. We have included estimates of potential additional losses due to higher-order modes and radiation, based on analytical approximations, and referenced relevant circuit-QED literature. The phrase 'after trials' has been clarified to indicate that it refers to iterative fabrication and testing by the groups providing the material advancements. This provides better support for the projected metrics within the context of a design proposal. revision: yes
Circularity Check
Performance targets (1.9 ms T1, 2.75e7 Q at 12 GHz) imported from external citations without internal derivation or frequency-scaling analysis
specific steps
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fitted input called prediction
[Abstract]
"The aim is to achieve average relaxation times of up to 1.9ms with average quality factors of up to 2.75 x 10^7 after trials, while exploiting the new advances in superconducting junction manufacturing using tantalum and niobium/aluminum/aluminum oxide tri-layer structures on high-resistivity silicon substrates (carried out elsewhere by other groups and referred in this report)."
The specific numerical targets are presented as the intended outcome of the proposed architecture, yet they are not computed, simulated, or scaled from any design parameter inside the manuscript; they are directly adopted from the referenced external fabrication results. The 'prediction' is therefore the input citation restated as a design goal.
full rationale
The manuscript is a design proposal whose central performance claims are not obtained from any equation, simulation, or first-principles argument inside the paper. The quoted relaxation time and quality-factor numbers are explicitly labeled as aims that will be reached 'after trials' by exploiting fabrication advances 'carried out elsewhere by other groups and referred in this report.' No load-bearing derivation chain exists to reduce; the numbers are simply restated expectations from the cited literature. This matches the 'fitted input called prediction' pattern at the level of the abstract claim, producing partial circularity (score 6) but not a fully self-contained loop.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
free parameters (2)
- Central operating frequency =
12.0 GHz
- Target relaxation time =
1.9 ms
axioms (1)
- domain assumption Higher operating frequency reduces charge noise and enables compact, scalable layouts while preserving coherence when using advanced materials.
Lean theorems connected to this paper
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IndisputableMonolith/Cost/FunctionalEquation.leanwashburn_uniqueness_aczel unclear?
unclearRelation between the paper passage and the cited Recognition theorem.
The transition frequency ... v01 = √(8 EJ EC)/h - EC/h ... EJ = Φ0 Ic / 2π, EC = e² / 2 CΣ
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IndisputableMonolith/Foundation/AlphaDerivationExplicit.leanalphaInverseRS unclear?
unclearRelation between the paper passage and the cited Recognition theorem.
aim to achieve average relaxation times of up to 1.9 ms with average quality factors of up to 2.75 × 10^7 at 12.0 GHz
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