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Bulk magnetic properties of distorted square lattice compounds M'-LnTaO4 (Ln = Tb, Dy, Ho, Er)
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M'-TbTaO4 develops long-range antiferromagnetic order below 2.1 K with Tb moments aligned primarily along the c-axis.
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Core claim
Powder neutron diffraction confirms the crystal structure for Ln = Tb, Ho, Er and determines that M'-TbTaO4 displays long-range antiferromagnetic order below T_N = 2.1 K, with the Tb3+ moments aligned primarily along the c-axis and antiferromagnetic nearest-neighbour interactions. Susceptibility data suggest M'-DyTaO4 may display short-range ordering around 2.7 K, while M'-HoTaO4 and M'-ErTaO4 show antiferromagnetic correlations but do not order above 1.8 K. Magnetic specific-heat measurements provide evidence for a Kramers doublet ground state in M'-ErTaO4.
What carries the argument
Powder neutron diffraction used to determine both the nuclear crystal structure and the magnetic structure of the distorted square lattice.
If this is right
- Magnetic ordering temperature and character change with the lanthanide ion's Kramers or non-Kramers character and crystal-electric-field scheme.
- M'-DyTaO4 is the only member likely to exhibit short-range order near 2.7 K.
- M'-HoTaO4 and M'-ErTaO4 remain without long-range order down to at least 1.8 K despite antiferromagnetic correlations.
- M'-ErTaO4 shares a Kramers-doublet ground state with the heavier Yb analogue.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- Lower-temperature neutron diffraction or specific-heat runs could test whether Ho and Er compounds order below the present 1.8 K limit.
- The series supplies a controlled platform for examining how lattice distortion modulates frustration on a square lattice of rare-earth moments.
- Systematic comparison across the lanthanide row may reveal trends driven by changing spin-orbit coupling and crystal-field parameters.
Load-bearing premise
Powder neutron diffraction patterns uniquely fix the magnetic structure and the absence of thermodynamic anomalies above 1.8 K rules out long-range order at any lower temperature.
What would settle it
Appearance of a magnetic Bragg peak or a specific-heat lambda anomaly below 1.8 K in M'-HoTaO4 or M'-ErTaO4 would demonstrate that long-range order occurs at lower temperature than currently reported.
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We report bulk magnetic properties of the monoclinic lanthanide tantalates, M'-LnTaO4 (Ln = Tb, Dy, Ho, Er), where the magnetic Ln3+ ions are arranged on a distorted 2D square lattice. The heavier analogue M'-YbTaO4 has been investigated as a spin-orbit-coupled, quasi-two-dimensional frustrated magnet, and the properties of the other M'-LnTaO4 are expected to vary depending on the electronic configuration of the Ln ion, namely Kramers vs non-Kramers behaviour and different crystal electric field parameters. In this work, powder neutron diffraction is used to confirm the crystal structure for Ln = Tb, Ho, Er, and to determine the magnetic structure of M'-TbTaO4, which displays long-range antiferromagnetic (AFM) order below T_N = 2.1 K. The Tb3+ moments are aligned primarily along the c-axis with AFM nearest-neighbour interactions. Susceptibility data suggest that M'-DyTaO4 may display short-range ordering around 2.7 K, while M'-HoTaO4 and M'-ErTaO4 show AFM correlations but do not order above 1.8 K. Measurements of the magnetic specific heat provide evidence for a Kramers doublet ground state in M'-ErTaO4, similar to its heavier analogue M'-YbTaO4.
Editorial analysis
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Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript reports bulk magnetic properties of monoclinic M'-LnTaO4 (Ln = Tb, Dy, Ho, Er) compounds in which Ln3+ ions form a distorted 2D square lattice. Powder neutron diffraction confirms the crystal structures for Tb, Ho, and Er analogues and determines the magnetic structure of M'-TbTaO4 as long-range antiferromagnetic order below T_N = 2.1 K, with Tb3+ moments aligned primarily along the c-axis and antiferromagnetic nearest-neighbor interactions. Susceptibility data suggest short-range ordering near 2.7 K in M'-DyTaO4, while M'-HoTaO4 and M'-ErTaO4 exhibit antiferromagnetic correlations but no long-range order above 1.8 K; magnetic specific-heat measurements support a Kramers doublet ground state in M'-ErTaO4, analogous to the Yb compound.
Significance. If the magnetic structure assignment is robust, the work supplies systematic experimental data on how magnetic behavior varies across the Ln series in these distorted square-lattice tantalates, particularly the contrast between Kramers and non-Kramers ions and the role of crystal-electric-field effects relative to the previously studied Yb analogue. The results are obtained with standard powder neutron diffraction, susceptibility, and specific-heat techniques and therefore add directly comparable observations to the literature on quasi-two-dimensional frustrated lanthanide magnets.
major comments (2)
- [Magnetic structure determination for M'-TbTaO4] In the section presenting the magnetic structure of M'-TbTaO4, the assignment of Tb3+ moments as primarily c-axis aligned with AFM nearest-neighbor interactions is based on fitting observed magnetic Bragg peaks from powder neutron diffraction. Powder averaging inherently limits the ability to distinguish moment directions and propagation vectors; the manuscript does not report explicit R-factor or goodness-of-fit comparisons against alternative models (e.g., a-axis moments or different k-vectors), leaving open the possibility that other symmetry-allowed structures produce statistically indistinguishable fits.
- [Specific-heat measurements] The specific-heat analysis for M'-ErTaO4 is used to infer a Kramers doublet ground state. The temperature range and subtraction procedure for the lattice contribution should be stated explicitly, together with the quantitative criterion (e.g., entropy release or Schottky anomaly fit) that distinguishes this ground state from a possible singlet or higher degeneracy.
minor comments (2)
- [Figures] Figure captions for the neutron diffraction patterns should include the wavelength, temperature, and any subtracted background details to allow direct assessment of the magnetic peak intensities.
- [Magnetic susceptibility] The susceptibility data for M'-DyTaO4 are described as suggesting short-range order around 2.7 K; the precise criterion (e.g., deviation from Curie-Weiss behavior or a broad maximum) used to identify this temperature should be stated in the text.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their careful reading and constructive comments on our manuscript. We address each major comment below and have revised the manuscript to improve clarity and rigor where appropriate.
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Referee: In the section presenting the magnetic structure of M'-TbTaO4, the assignment of Tb3+ moments as primarily c-axis aligned with AFM nearest-neighbor interactions is based on fitting observed magnetic Bragg peaks from powder neutron diffraction. Powder averaging inherently limits the ability to distinguish moment directions and propagation vectors; the manuscript does not report explicit R-factor or goodness-of-fit comparisons against alternative models (e.g., a-axis moments or different k-vectors), leaving open the possibility that other symmetry-allowed structures produce statistically indistinguishable fits.
Authors: We agree that powder neutron diffraction data inherently limits unique determination of moment directions due to orientational averaging. Our analysis of the observed magnetic Bragg peaks shows that the proposed c-axis aligned AFM structure with nearest-neighbor interactions provides a consistent fit, while alternative models (such as a-axis moments) yield poorer agreement with the peak intensities and positions. To address this point explicitly, we will include R-factor and goodness-of-fit comparisons against symmetry-allowed alternatives in the revised manuscript. revision: yes
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Referee: The specific-heat analysis for M'-ErTaO4 is used to infer a Kramers doublet ground state. The temperature range and subtraction procedure for the lattice contribution should be stated explicitly, together with the quantitative criterion (e.g., entropy release or Schottky anomaly fit) that distinguishes this ground state from a possible singlet or higher degeneracy.
Authors: We will revise the manuscript to state the temperature range (1.8–20 K) and lattice subtraction procedure (using a Debye model fitted to high-temperature data or a non-magnetic reference) explicitly. The quantitative criterion is the magnetic entropy release approaching R ln(2) above ~5 K, which we will report with the associated Schottky anomaly fit to confirm the Kramers doublet ground state and rule out higher degeneracy or singlet scenarios. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No significant circularity: purely experimental claims with no derivation chain
full rationale
The manuscript reports direct measurements (powder neutron diffraction for crystal and magnetic structures of TbTaO4, susceptibility, and specific heat) without any theoretical model, ansatz, fitted parameter renamed as prediction, or self-citation load-bearing step. The magnetic structure assignment follows from observed Bragg peaks and is presented as an experimental determination, not a derived result that reduces to its own inputs by construction. Prior work on the Yb analogue is cited only for context and does not underpin the current data interpretation. No equations or uniqueness theorems are invoked that would create circularity.
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25 Appendix A: PXRD Rietveld refinements FIG
Research data supporting this work will be made available at DOI:10.17863/CAM.125160. 25 Appendix A: PXRD Rietveld refinements FIG. S1. Rietveld refinement against room-temperature synchrotron PXRD data (λ= 0.82869 ˚A) forM ′-TbTaO4. Red circles: observed data, black line: calculated pattern, blue line: difference pattern, purple tick marks: Bragg reflect...
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