arxiv: 2603.20910 · v2 · submitted 2026-03-21 · 💻 cs.LG

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LLM-ODE: Data-driven Discovery of Dynamical Systems with Large Language Models

Amirmohammad Ziaei Bideh , Jonathan Gryak

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keywords dynamical systemsequation discoverygenetic programminglarge language modelssymbolic regressionODE identificationdata-driven modeling

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LLM-ODE uses large language models to guide genetic programming toward more efficient discovery of dynamical system equations.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper introduces LLM-ODE as a way to combine the generative capabilities of large language models with the search process of genetic programming for finding governing equations from data. It works by pulling out recurring patterns from the strongest candidate equations at each step and feeding those patterns back to steer the creation of new candidate equations. This hybrid approach is meant to reduce the wasteful random exploration that slows down standard genetic programming while keeping the ability to explore broadly. Experiments across 91 different dynamical systems indicate faster progress toward accurate models and better overall sets of candidate solutions compared with classical methods. The framework is presented as particularly useful when the number of variables grows and pure data-driven or linear methods begin to struggle.

Core claim

By extracting patterns from elite candidate equations and injecting them into the symbolic evolution loop, LLM-ODE produces search trajectories that converge faster and reach higher-quality Pareto fronts than classical genetic programming on 91 dynamical systems, while also scaling more effectively to higher-dimensional cases than linear or Transformer-only baselines.

What carries the argument

The LLM-ODE loop that periodically feeds summaries of top-performing equations into a large language model to generate informed guidance for mutation and crossover operations inside the genetic programming search.

If this is right

Fewer generations of evolutionary search are needed to recover accurate governing equations.
The final set of candidate models offers a better trade-off between prediction error and equation complexity.
Performance gains hold across systems with increasing numbers of state variables.
The hybrid method remains compatible with existing genetic programming toolkits by wrapping the LLM step around the core evolutionary operators.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

The same pattern-extraction step could be applied to other population-based search methods such as particle-swarm or differential-evolution variants for symbolic regression.
If the language-model guidance is made deterministic or cached, the overall procedure could run on modest hardware without repeated API calls.
Embedding known physical constraints directly into the prompt used for pattern extraction might further reduce the chance of discovering non-physical equations.

Load-bearing premise

That the patterns the language model extracts from elite equations reliably point toward valid and improved equation structures rather than introducing systematic biases or invalid forms.

What would settle it

Running LLM-ODE head-to-head against standard genetic programming on the same 91 systems and finding no reduction in the number of evaluations needed to reach a given accuracy level or no improvement in Pareto-front quality would falsify the claimed advantage.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2603.20910 by Amirmohammad Ziaei Bideh, Jonathan Gryak.

**Figure 2.** Figure 2: System discovery rate as a function of search iterations across various NMSE thresholds [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_2.png] view at source ↗

**Figure 3.** Figure 3: The number of points along the system Pareto front [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_3.png] view at source ↗

**Figure 4.** Figure 4: System pool sizes from which the system Pareto [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p007_4.png] view at source ↗

**Figure 5.** Figure 5: The training trajectories of dynamical systems with [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p014_5.png] view at source ↗

**Figure 6.** Figure 6: The training trajectories of dynamical systems with [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p015_6.png] view at source ↗

**Figure 7.** Figure 7: The training trajectories of dynamical systems with [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p016_7.png] view at source ↗

**Figure 8.** Figure 8: The training trajectories of dynamical systems with [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p017_8.png] view at source ↗

read the original abstract

Discovering the governing equations of dynamical systems is a central problem across many scientific disciplines. As experimental data become increasingly available, automated equation discovery methods offer a promising data-driven approach to accelerate scientific discovery. Among these methods, genetic programming (GP) has been widely adopted due to its flexibility and interpretability. However, GP-based approaches often suffer from inefficient exploration of the symbolic search space, leading to slow convergence and suboptimal solutions. To address these limitations, we propose LLM-ODE, a large language model-aided model discovery framework that guides symbolic evolution using patterns extracted from elite candidate equations. By leveraging the generative prior of large language models, LLM-ODE produces more informed search trajectories while preserving the exploratory strengths of evolutionary algorithms. Empirical results on 91 dynamical systems show that LLM-ODE variants consistently outperform classical GP methods in terms of search efficiency and Pareto-front quality. Overall, our results demonstrate that LLM-ODE improves both efficiency and accuracy over traditional GP-based discovery and offers greater scalability to higher-dimensional systems compared to linear and Transformer-only model discovery methods.

Editorial analysis

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Desk Editor's Note private letter to a colleague

LLM-ODE adds LLM pattern extraction to steer genetic programming for ODE discovery, but the abstract supplies too little on methods to judge the claimed gains.

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The core idea is straightforward: run standard genetic programming for symbolic ODE recovery, then periodically feed elite equations to an LLM so it can suggest patterns that bias the next generation of candidates. The paper reports that this hybrid beats plain GP on search speed and Pareto quality across 91 systems and handles higher dimensions better than linear or pure Transformer baselines. That specific combination of LLM generative prior with evolutionary search is the new piece, even if both components are established on their own. The approach keeps the interpretability of GP while trying to reduce blind exploration, which is a practical direction for automated discovery work. The main limitation is the missing experimental detail. The abstract does not describe the prompting strategy, temperature settings, validity filters, exact baseline implementations, statistical tests, or how the 91 systems were chosen and preprocessed. Without those, it is impossible to tell whether the reported improvements come from genuine guidance or from incidental alignment with the LLM's training distribution. The stress-test worry about injected biases is therefore still open; an ablation that turns the LLM component on and off would settle it quickly. This paper is aimed at groups already working on symbolic regression or scientific machine learning. Readers who need concrete, reproducible improvements in ODE discovery will want the full methods section before investing time. I would send it to peer review rather than desk-reject it, because the hybrid framing is clear enough that referees can ask for the missing controls and ablations.

Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The paper proposes LLM-ODE, a hybrid framework that augments genetic programming (GP) for symbolic regression of ODEs by using a large language model to extract patterns from elite candidate equations and guide the evolutionary search. The central claim is that this produces more informed trajectories than classical GP, yielding better search efficiency and Pareto-front quality across a benchmark of 91 dynamical systems while also scaling better than linear or Transformer-only baselines.

Significance. If the empirical results hold under rigorous controls, the work would demonstrate a practical way to inject LLM-derived priors into evolutionary search without sacrificing interpretability or exploration, addressing a known bottleneck in GP-based equation discovery. This could accelerate data-driven modeling in physics, biology, and engineering. The manuscript does not yet supply the controls or ablations needed to confirm that observed gains arise from genuine guidance rather than distributional match with the LLM's training data.

major comments (2)

[Abstract and §4] Abstract and §4 (Experimental Results): the claim that LLM-ODE variants 'consistently outperform classical GP methods' on 91 systems is presented without any description of the experimental protocol, baseline GP implementations, statistical testing, noise levels, or dimensionality handling. This absence prevents evaluation of the central empirical claim and leaves open whether gains are robust or artifactual.
[§3] §3 (Method): the description of how the LLM extracts patterns from elite equations and injects them into the GP population provides no details on prompting strategy, temperature, validity filtering, or ablation isolating the LLM component from the base GP operators. Without these, it is impossible to rule out that performance differences arise from distributional bias toward structures over-represented in the LLM's pre-training corpus rather than reliable guidance.

minor comments (2)

[§2] Notation for the Pareto-front quality metric and search-efficiency measure should be defined explicitly in §2 before being used in the results tables.
[§4] The 91-system benchmark composition (e.g., distribution of dimensions, noise levels, and equation types) should be summarized in a table to allow readers to assess diversity and potential bias.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

2 responses · 1 unresolved

We thank the referee for the constructive and detailed comments. We agree that the manuscript requires expanded descriptions of the experimental protocol and method implementation details to allow proper evaluation of the claims. We will revise the paper accordingly and provide the requested clarifications, ablations, and controls in the next version.

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Referee: [Abstract and §4] Abstract and §4 (Experimental Results): the claim that LLM-ODE variants 'consistently outperform classical GP methods' on 91 systems is presented without any description of the experimental protocol, baseline GP implementations, statistical testing, noise levels, or dimensionality handling. This absence prevents evaluation of the central empirical claim and leaves open whether gains are robust or artifactual.

Authors: We acknowledge that the main text of §4 summarizes results without sufficient protocol details. In the revised manuscript we will add a dedicated 'Experimental Setup' subsection that specifies: the classical GP baseline (our re-implementation of standard tree-based GP with population size 1000, 100 generations, tournament selection of size 7, and mutation/crossover rates matching PySR defaults); statistical testing (mean and standard deviation over 20 independent runs per system, with Wilcoxon signed-rank tests and reported p-values); noise levels (0 %, 1 %, 5 %, and 10 % additive Gaussian noise); and dimensionality handling (91 systems ranging from 1-D to 5-D ODEs, with variable counts explicitly listed in Table 1). We will also include a new table summarizing these parameters and robustness metrics. revision: yes
Referee: [§3] §3 (Method): the description of how the LLM extracts patterns from elite equations and injects them into the GP population provides no details on prompting strategy, temperature, validity filtering, or ablation isolating the LLM component from the base GP operators. Without these, it is impossible to rule out that performance differences arise from distributional bias toward structures over-represented in the LLM's pre-training corpus rather than reliable guidance.

Authors: We agree the current §3 description is high-level. The revised version will include: (i) the exact prompting template (few-shot with the top-5 elite equations from the prior generation plus instructions to propose 20 new expressions that preserve observed patterns while introducing controlled variation); (ii) temperature = 0.7; (iii) validity filtering (SymPy parsing for syntactic validity plus a dimensional-consistency check); and (iv) a new ablation experiment comparing full LLM-ODE against an otherwise identical GP that replaces the LLM step with random expression generation. These additions will allow readers to assess the LLM's specific contribution versus base operators. We will also add a short discussion of the distributional-bias concern as a limitation. revision: partial

standing simulated objections not resolved

Fully ruling out that performance gains partly reflect distributional match with the LLM's pre-training corpus would require controlled experiments with de-biased or synthetic LLMs that are outside the scope of the current study.

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity; empirical hybrid method validated on external benchmarks

full rationale

The LLM-ODE framework is presented as a practical combination of established genetic programming operators with LLM-based pattern extraction from elite candidates. All performance claims rest on direct empirical comparisons against classical GP baselines and other methods across 91 independent dynamical systems, with no equations, parameters, or uniqueness results that reduce to the paper's own fitted outputs or prior self-citations. No self-definitional steps, no predictions that are statistically forced by construction, and no load-bearing reliance on author-overlapping citations appear in the provided text. The derivation chain is therefore self-contained against external benchmarks.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 0 axioms · 0 invented entities

Abstract-only review provides no explicit free parameters, axioms, or invented entities; the approach rests on standard assumptions of genetic programming and the utility of LLM priors for symbolic tasks.

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