The unique control features of topological stochastic and quantum systems
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The pith
Topological features create a unique persisting state in stochastic systems that quantum systems lack.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
We derive analytical expressions for the spectral properties of simple quantum and stochastic models on the same lattice. Non-reciprocity moves states away from the steady-state in stochastic systems while clustering states at zero-energy in quantum systems. Making the system more topological clusters more states around the steady-state in stochastic systems but moves states away from the zero-energy state in quantum systems. We discover a mode unique to stochastic systems that we dub the topologically emerging state, which persists across different models and dimensions, including in the presence of non-equilibrium currents. These results provide control parameters for selection and modulat
What carries the argument
The topologically emerging state, a spectral mode that arises only in stochastic topological systems and remains robust under non-reciprocity and dimensional changes.
Load-bearing premise
Simple lattice models and their derived analytical spectral properties capture the essential behavior of more complex real-world quantum and stochastic topological systems.
What would settle it
Direct observation that the topologically emerging state fails to appear or loses its persistence in a higher-dimensional stochastic model with explicit non-equilibrium currents would disprove the claim.
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Topological phases support edge states that can be robust to material deformations and other perturbations. While well-studied in quantum systems, topological phases have also been observed in stochastic and biochemical systems, yet it remains unclear which of their properties remain similar or different from those in quantum systems. In this paper, we derive analytical expressions for the spectral properties of simple quantum and stochastic models on the same lattice to rigorously characterize these complex systems. Intriguingly, we find that non-reciprocity moves states away from the steady-state in stochastic systems while clustering states at zero-energy in quantum systems. In contrast, making the system more topological does the opposite: it clusters more states around the steady-state in stochastic systems but moves states away from the zero-energy state in quantum systems. These results provide control parameters for selection and modulation of different purposes while quantifying the size of gap which protects the longest-lived states. Lastly, we discover a mode unique to stochastic systems that we dub the topologically emerging state, which persists across different models and dimensions, including in the presence of non-equilibrium currents.
Editorial analysis
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Referee Report
Summary. The paper derives analytical expressions for the spectral properties of simple quantum and stochastic topological models defined on identical lattices. It reports that non-reciprocity shifts states away from the steady state in stochastic systems while clustering them at zero energy in quantum systems, whereas increasing topological character produces the opposite clustering behavior. The authors identify a mode unique to the stochastic case, termed the topologically emerging state, and claim it persists across models, dimensions, and in the presence of non-equilibrium currents, providing control parameters and gap sizes for longest-lived states.
Significance. If the analytical spectra are correctly derived and the emerging state is shown to be absent from quantum analogs while robust to model variations, the work supplies concrete, tunable distinctions between stochastic and quantum topological control. This could inform design of non-equilibrium systems in statistical mechanics and biochemical networks by quantifying how topology and drive separately modulate state clustering and lifetimes.
major comments (2)
- [Abstract / spectral analysis] Abstract and results on spectral properties: the uniqueness of the topologically emerging state is asserted to hold across models and dimensions, yet the derivations are performed only on minimal translation-invariant lattices with nearest-neighbor couplings; no model-independent argument is supplied showing that zero-mode clustering or the emerging state is forced by stochasticity plus topology rather than by the specific rate-matrix choice, which is load-bearing for the central distinction from quantum systems.
- [Results / spectral derivations] Comparison of stochastic and quantum spectra: the opposite effects of non-reciprocity and topology on state clustering are described qualitatively, but explicit side-by-side eigenvalue expressions or tables for the same lattice are needed to confirm the emerging state is absent from the quantum spectrum and survives non-equilibrium currents; without these, the claimed control features rest on unverified generality.
minor comments (2)
- [Methods] Notation for the steady-state eigenvalue and the emerging mode should be standardized across equations to avoid ambiguity when comparing stochastic and quantum cases.
- [Figures] Figure captions should explicitly label which curves correspond to the topologically emerging state and indicate the lattice size and boundary conditions used.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their insightful comments, which have helped us improve the clarity and rigor of our manuscript. We address each major comment below and have made revisions accordingly.
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Referee: [Abstract / spectral analysis] Abstract and results on spectral properties: the uniqueness of the topologically emerging state is asserted to hold across models and dimensions, yet the derivations are performed only on minimal translation-invariant lattices with nearest-neighbor couplings; no model-independent argument is supplied showing that zero-mode clustering or the emerging state is forced by stochasticity plus topology rather than by the specific rate-matrix choice, which is load-bearing for the central distinction from quantum systems.
Authors: We thank the referee for pointing this out. Our derivations focus on minimal models to derive exact analytical expressions, which we then use to illustrate the general behavior. We have checked the emerging state in additional models beyond the minimal lattice, including in 2D and with longer-range couplings (as mentioned in the manuscript). However, we agree that a model-independent argument would be ideal. In the revised manuscript, we will expand the discussion to explicitly state the assumptions and the representative character of the models, and note that the distinction stems from the non-Hermitian nature of the stochastic generator versus the Hermitian quantum Hamiltonian. We will also add references to related works on general stochastic topological systems to support the broader applicability. revision: partial
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Referee: [Results / spectral derivations] Comparison of stochastic and quantum spectra: the opposite effects of non-reciprocity and topology on state clustering are described qualitatively, but explicit side-by-side eigenvalue expressions or tables for the same lattice are needed to confirm the emerging state is absent from the quantum spectrum and survives non-equilibrium currents; without these, the claimed control features rest on unverified generality.
Authors: We agree that side-by-side comparisons would make the distinction clearer. The analytical expressions for both cases are derived in the main text (see Eqs. for stochastic and quantum spectra). In the revision, we will add a new table that lists the eigenvalues for the stochastic and quantum versions on the same 1D lattice, explicitly showing the topologically emerging state (which has no counterpart in the quantum spectrum) and confirming its survival under non-equilibrium driving. This will provide direct verification of the claimed control features. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No circularity: derivations are direct from lattice model equations
full rationale
The paper states it derives analytical expressions for spectral properties directly from the rate matrices and Hamiltonians of minimal lattice models. No parameters are fitted to data subsets and then relabeled as predictions; the topologically emerging state is identified by explicit spectral calculation rather than by self-definition or renaming. No load-bearing self-citations or uniqueness theorems imported from prior author work appear in the derivation chain. The analysis remains self-contained within the chosen models and does not reduce any central claim to its inputs by construction.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
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- domain assumption Simple lattice models capture the essential topological and spectral features of both quantum and stochastic systems.
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topologically emerging state
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