Module Lattice Security (Part I): Unconditional Verification of Weber's Conjecture for k le 12
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The pith
Weber's conjecture holds unconditionally for k ≤ 12 in module lattice security.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
We present the first unconditional proof for k ≤ 12. Our method combines the Fukuda-Komatsu computational sieve, inductive structure of the cyclotomic Z_2-tower, and Herbrand's theorem.
What carries the argument
The Fukuda-Komatsu computational sieve applied inductively through the cyclotomic Z_2-tower together with Herbrand's theorem.
If this is right
- For k ≤ 12 the principal ideal problem becomes solvable in the corresponding rings of integers.
- Modules over these rings satisfy the freeness property asserted by the conjecture.
- Worst-case to average-case reductions for Ring-LWE and Module-LWE remain tight without any hypothesis.
- Security proofs for lattice-based cryptosystems using these parameters can be written unconditionally.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- Practical cryptosystems whose security reductions use k ≤ 12 can drop the generalized Riemann hypothesis from their statements.
- The same inductive sieve technique might eventually reach larger k if computational resources grow.
- The result isolates the exact point where number-theoretic conjectures still block unconditional proofs in module-lattice cryptography.
Load-bearing premise
The Fukuda-Komatsu computational sieve together with the inductive structure of the cyclotomic Z_2-tower and Herbrand's theorem suffices to finish the verification for k ≤ 12.
What would settle it
A counterexample to Weber's conjecture for any single k between 1 and 12, or a concrete error in the output of the Fukuda-Komatsu sieve on the relevant cyclotomic fields.
read the original abstract
Weber's conjecture (1886) governs three aspects of lattice-based cryptography: the solvability of the Principal Ideal Problem, the freeness of modules over rings of integers, and the tightness of worst-case-to-average-case reductions in Ring-LWE (R-LWE) and Module-LWE (MLWE). Existing verifications for $k \ge 9$ rely on Generalized Riemann Hypothesis (GRH). In this paper, we present the first unconditional proof for $k \le 12$. Our method combines the Fukuda-Komatsu computational sieve, inductive structure of the cyclotomic $\mathbb{Z}_2$-tower, and Herbrand's theorem.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript claims to provide the first unconditional proof of Weber's conjecture for k ≤ 12. The proof combines the Fukuda-Komatsu computational sieve with induction along the cyclotomic Z_2-tower and an application of Herbrand's theorem, removing the Generalized Riemann Hypothesis dependence required in prior verifications for k ≥ 9.
Significance. If the central claim holds, the result would strengthen the foundations of lattice-based cryptography by establishing unconditional guarantees on the Principal Ideal Problem, module freeness over rings of integers, and the tightness of worst-case-to-average-case reductions for Ring-LWE and Module-LWE at small k. The computational verification via sieve combined with an inductive tower argument constitutes a concrete, falsifiable contribution that could be checked for small k.
major comments (1)
- [Inductive step and Herbrand application (likely §4 or §5)] The inductive step invoking Herbrand's theorem on the 2-primary part of the class group in the cyclotomic Z_2-tower requires explicit justification. Herbrand's theorem classically equates the p-part of the class group to a Bernoulli criterion for odd p; the p=2 case involves extra 2-adic unit contributions and possible capitulation phenomena. The manuscript must show (with a cited reference or self-contained argument valid up to k=12) that the Fukuda-Komatsu sieve outputs plus induction yield the conjecture unconditionally without hidden hypotheses on the 2-adic side.
minor comments (1)
- The abstract would be clearer if it listed the exact k values for which explicit sieve outputs are provided and stated the computational resources or bounds used in the Fukuda-Komatsu sieve.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their careful reading of the manuscript and for the constructive comment on the inductive step. We have revised the paper to provide the requested explicit justification.
read point-by-point responses
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Referee: [Inductive step and Herbrand application (likely §4 or §5)] The inductive step invoking Herbrand's theorem on the 2-primary part of the class group in the cyclotomic Z_2-tower requires explicit justification. Herbrand's theorem classically equates the p-part of the class group to a Bernoulli criterion for odd p; the p=2 case involves extra 2-adic unit contributions and possible capitulation phenomena. The manuscript must show (with a cited reference or self-contained argument valid up to k=12) that the Fukuda-Komatsu sieve outputs plus induction yield the conjecture unconditionally without hidden hypotheses on the 2-adic side.
Authors: We agree that the original sketch in §5 was insufficiently detailed on the p=2 case. In the revised manuscript we have inserted a new subsection (now §4.3) that supplies a self-contained argument valid through k=12. We invoke the 2-primary version of Herbrand's theorem as stated in Washington, Introduction to Cyclotomic Fields, 2nd ed., Theorem 8.14 together with the explicit description of the 2-adic units in the cyclotomic tower (loc. cit., §8.3). For the layers up to k=12 the Fukuda-Komatsu sieve directly computes the relevant class-group 2-parts and the unit indices; these computations show that no non-trivial capitulation occurs in the tower steps. Consequently the inductive lift from the verified base cases (k≤8) to k=12 proceeds unconditionally, with no additional hypotheses on the 2-adic side. The new subsection includes the explicit sieve output tables and the unit-index calculations that justify the claim. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No circularity: derivation rests on external computational sieve and classical theorems
full rationale
The paper's central claim is an unconditional verification for k≤12 obtained by combining the Fukuda-Komatsu sieve (a computational procedure whose outputs are independently checkable), the inductive structure of the cyclotomic Z_2-tower, and Herbrand's theorem. No step is shown to reduce by definition or by self-citation to a fitted parameter or to the target conjecture itself. The abstract and provided excerpts contain no self-referential definitions, no renaming of known results as new predictions, and no load-bearing self-citations. The derivation is therefore self-contained against external benchmarks.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (2)
- standard math Herbrand's theorem on class groups
- domain assumption Inductive structure of the cyclotomic Z_2-tower
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