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arxiv: 2604.16617 · v1 · submitted 2026-04-17 · 💻 cs.CV · cs.MM· cs.SD

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AVRT: Audio-Visual Reasoning Transfer through Single-Modality Teachers

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keywords audio-visual reasoningsingle-modality teachersreasoning trace generationmultimodal transfer learningsupervised fine-tuningreinforcement learningaudio-visual benchmarks
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The pith

Single-modality teacher models can generate effective audio-visual reasoning traces for training multimodal models.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

Limited high-quality data hinders transferring reasoning to audio-visual domains. AVRT addresses this by having specialized vision and audio models generate separate reasoning traces, which an LLM then merges into multimodal traces. These traces support a supervised fine-tuning stage followed by reinforcement learning on the target model. The resulting 3B and 7B models set new performance levels on audio-visual benchmarks and also improve on audio-only tasks, indicating benefits from cross-modal training.

Core claim

The central discovery is that merging independent reasoning traces from single-modality teacher models produces high-quality audio-visual reasoning data that, when used in a two-stage SFT and RL training process, enables small models to achieve state-of-the-art results on audio-visual and audio reasoning benchmarks while demonstrating transfer of capabilities to single-modality tasks.

What carries the argument

The LLM-based merger that combines separate vision-reasoning and audio-reasoning traces into unified audio-visual reasoning traces for supervised fine-tuning and reinforcement learning.

If this is right

  • 3B and 7B parameter models reach state-of-the-art performance on OmniBench, DailyOmni for audio-visual reasoning and MMAR for audio-only reasoning.
  • Cross-modal training with merged traces transfers to improved performance on single-modality tasks.
  • A training pipeline using only single-modality data sources can produce effective multimodal reasoning models.
  • Supervised fine-tuning on merged traces followed by reinforcement learning is an effective two-stage adaptation method.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Similar merging approaches might apply to other modality pairs such as text and video where direct multimodal reasoning data is scarce.
  • The success suggests that reasoning traces contain modality-independent components that can be recombined.
  • Testing the method on larger models or different benchmark suites could reveal scalability limits or broader applicability.

Load-bearing premise

The reasoning traces created by merging outputs from separate single-modality teacher models are of high enough quality to drive effective supervised fine-tuning and reinforcement learning in the target model.

What would settle it

A direct comparison experiment where one model is trained on human-annotated audio-visual reasoning data and another on AVRT-generated traces, then evaluated on the same set of audio-visual and audio benchmarks, would determine if the merged traces are comparably effective.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2604.16617 by Brian Kingsbury, Edson Araujo, Hilde Kuehne, James R. Glass, M. Jehanzeb Mirza, Rogerio Feris, Samuel Thomas, Saurabhchand Bhati.

Figure 1
Figure 1. Figure 1: Overview of the AVRT pipeline: We first generate reasoning chains from single-modality teacher models that are prompted in the format they were optimized for and, second, leverage an LLM merger as an interface between the teacher models and the resulting reasoning chain to aggregate the information and put it into the target format. The resulting audio-visual traces are then used to train a student model i… view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Figure 2: Qualitative results of the AVRT-trained model on OmniBench: It shows that the model trained on the respective AVRT-20K data is able to retrieve audio and visual information to answer the question, to combine the two sources of information, and to generate high-quality reasoning chains based on different cues in both modalities. while reducing IFE by only 0.7 points. This demonstrates that performance gains… view at source ↗
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Recent advances in reasoning models have shown remarkable progress in text-based domains, but transferring those capabilities to multimodal settings, e.g., to allow reasoning over audio-visual data, still remains a challenge, in part because of the limited availability of high-quality reasoning data in targeted multimodal combinations. To address this problem, we introduce AVRT, a novel framework that generates high-quality audio-visual reasoning traces from single-modality teacher models. We generate independent vision- and audio-reasoning traces via models specialized to reason over their respective modalities and merge the resulting traces with an LLM merger model. The resulting multimodal traces are used in a supervised fine-tuning (SFT) cold start to adapt the target model to audio-visual reasoning traces first, before training it in a second reinforcement learning stage on larger-scale data. Evaluated on seven audio-visual and audio benchmarks, our 3B and 7B parameter models achieve state-of-the-art results among models of comparable size including OmniBench and DailyOmni for audio-visual and MMAR for audio-only reasoning, showing that cross-modal training also transfers to single-modality tasks and establishing a new training pipeline for multimodal reasoning models.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

3 major / 2 minor

Summary. The manuscript introduces AVRT, a framework to address limited high-quality audio-visual reasoning data. It generates independent vision-reasoning and audio-reasoning traces from single-modality teacher models, merges them via an LLM merger model to produce audio-visual traces, performs supervised fine-tuning (SFT) as a cold start on these traces, and follows with reinforcement learning (RL) on larger-scale data. The 3B and 7B target models are evaluated on seven audio-visual and audio benchmarks and claimed to achieve state-of-the-art results among comparable-size models on OmniBench, DailyOmni (audio-visual) and MMAR (audio-only), with the additional observation that cross-modal training transfers to single-modality tasks.

Significance. If the central empirical claims hold after validation, the work would be significant for multimodal reasoning research: it offers a practical pipeline for synthesizing reasoning traces without native multimodal teachers, demonstrates positive transfer from audio-visual training to audio-only tasks, and scales to small models (3B/7B). The two-stage SFT-then-RL protocol is a standard but well-motivated design choice here. However, the significance is currently limited by the absence of any quantitative assessment of the merged traces themselves.

major comments (3)
  1. [Method (trace generation and merging)] Method (trace generation and merging paragraph): No quantitative metrics, human ratings, coherence scores, or ablation studies are reported for the quality, logical consistency, or cross-modal alignment of the LLM-merged audio-visual reasoning traces. This is load-bearing for the central claim, because all SOTA results on OmniBench, DailyOmni, and MMAR are attributed to the AVRT pipeline; without evidence that the merger step produces high-quality, non-contradictory traces, performance gains cannot be distinguished from base-model scale or RL data volume.
  2. [Experiments] Experiments section: The manuscript supplies no details on baselines, error bars, statistical significance tests, data exclusion criteria, or exact prompting and training hyperparameters for the seven benchmarks. This prevents verification of the “state-of-the-art among models of comparable size” assertion and makes the transfer-to-single-modality claim difficult to evaluate.
  3. [Results] Results (OmniBench / DailyOmni / MMAR tables): No comparison is presented between models trained on merged traces versus models trained on native audio-visual reasoning traces (or versus an unmerged concatenation baseline). Such an ablation would be required to isolate the contribution of the LLM merger step.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract: The phrase “seven audio-visual and audio benchmarks” is used without listing the full set; an explicit enumeration would improve readability.
  2. [Throughout] Notation: The terms “AV traces,” “multimodal traces,” and “reasoning traces” are used interchangeably; consistent terminology throughout would reduce ambiguity.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

3 responses · 1 unresolved

We thank the referee for their constructive and detailed review. We have carefully considered each major comment and will revise the manuscript to improve clarity, add necessary validations, and enhance experimental details. Our point-by-point responses are provided below.

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  1. Referee: Method (trace generation and merging paragraph): No quantitative metrics, human ratings, coherence scores, or ablation studies are reported for the quality, logical consistency, or cross-modal alignment of the LLM-merged audio-visual reasoning traces. This is load-bearing for the central claim, because all SOTA results on OmniBench, DailyOmni, and MMAR are attributed to the AVRT pipeline; without evidence that the merger step produces high-quality, non-contradictory traces, performance gains cannot be distinguished from base-model scale or RL data volume.

    Authors: We agree that direct assessment of the merged traces would strengthen the central claim. The manuscript currently uses downstream benchmark performance as the primary indicator of trace utility. In the revised version, we will add quantitative validation including: (i) LLM-as-judge coherence and alignment scores on a held-out set of 200 merged traces, (ii) human ratings (on a 1-5 scale for logical consistency and cross-modal alignment) from three annotators on a random sample of 100 traces, and (iii) an ablation comparing the full pipeline against an unmerged concatenation baseline. These additions will help isolate the merger step's contribution while acknowledging that end-to-end gains remain the strongest practical evidence. revision: yes

  2. Referee: Experiments section: The manuscript supplies no details on baselines, error bars, statistical significance tests, data exclusion criteria, or exact prompting and training hyperparameters for the seven benchmarks. This prevents verification of the “state-of-the-art among models of comparable size” assertion and makes the transfer-to-single-modality claim difficult to evaluate.

    Authors: We apologize for the insufficient detail in the main text. While some hyperparameter information appears in the appendix, we acknowledge that key elements for reproducibility and verification were not sufficiently highlighted. In the revision, we will expand the Experiments section with: a comprehensive baselines table (including model sizes and training regimes), error bars from at least three random seeds for main results, paired statistical significance tests (e.g., t-tests) for SOTA comparisons, explicit data exclusion criteria, and full prompting templates plus training hyperparameters for all seven benchmarks. This will allow independent verification of the reported results and transfer claims. revision: yes

  3. Referee: Results (OmniBench / DailyOmni / MMAR tables): No comparison is presented between models trained on merged traces versus models trained on native audio-visual reasoning traces (or versus an unmerged concatenation baseline). Such an ablation would be required to isolate the contribution of the LLM merger step.

    Authors: We note that the core motivation of AVRT is the scarcity of high-quality native audio-visual reasoning traces at scale; no such large-scale native dataset exists for direct comparison, which is why the single-modality teacher + merger approach was developed. We will therefore add an ablation against an unmerged concatenation baseline (vision and audio traces simply concatenated without LLM merging) to isolate the merger's benefit. We will also expand the discussion section to explicitly state the limitation regarding native traces and why such a comparison is not currently feasible. revision: partial

standing simulated objections not resolved
  • Direct comparison to models trained on native audio-visual reasoning traces, as no such large-scale high-quality data is available

Circularity Check

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No circularity: purely empirical framework with external benchmarks

full rationale

The paper describes a training pipeline that generates separate vision and audio reasoning traces from single-modality teacher models, merges them with an LLM, and applies the resulting traces first for SFT then for RL. All reported results consist of direct performance numbers on external benchmarks (OmniBench, DailyOmni, MMAR and others). No equations, fitted parameters, or derivations appear; no self-citation is invoked to justify a uniqueness theorem or to define the core output; and no step renames a known result or smuggles an ansatz. The central claims therefore rest on observable outcomes against independent test sets rather than on any internal reduction to the method's own inputs.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 0 axioms · 0 invented entities

Abstract provides no explicit free parameters, axioms, or invented entities; the approach relies on pre-existing single-modality teacher models and an LLM merger whose quality assumptions are unstated.

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