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Hybrid Latent Reasoning with Decoupled Policy Optimization

Tao Cheng , Shi-Zhe Chen , Hao Zhang , Yixin Qin , Jinwen Luo , Zheng Wei

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keywords hybrid latent reasoningdecoupled policy optimizationmultimodal large language modelsreinforcement learningvisual latent representationschain of thoughtvon Mises-Fisher distribution

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Hybrid latent reasoning interleaves discrete text generation with continuous visual states and optimizes the combination through decoupled policy learning.

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Multimodal large language models struggle with chain-of-thought reasoning on images because discretizing visual signals causes loss of fine details. HyLaR keeps visual information as continuous latent vectors and interleaves them with text tokens in the reasoning process. After an initial supervised fine-tuning phase, the DePO method performs reinforcement learning by applying separate trust-region updates to the text and latent parts of the policy along with a precise von Mises-Fisher KL regularizer. Experiments show this hybrid approach achieves higher accuracy than both standard multimodal models and earlier latent reasoning techniques on tasks requiring detailed visual understanding.

Core claim

HyLaR interleaves discrete text generation with continuous visual latent representations. Following cold-start supervised fine-tuning, DePO enables reinforcement learning in this hybrid space by decomposing the policy gradient objective, applying independent trust-region constraints to textual and latent components, and using an exact closed-form von Mises-Fisher KL regularizer.

What carries the argument

DePO, a decoupled policy optimization algorithm that separates the optimization of discrete text and continuous latent actions using independent trust regions and a closed-form vMF KL term.

If this is right

HyLaR achieves superior results on fine-grained perception benchmarks compared to standard MLLMs.
HyLaR surpasses state-of-the-art latent reasoning approaches on general multimodal understanding tasks.
The method allows stable training of hybrid action spaces without introducing instabilities.
Independent constraints on text and latent components simplify hyperparameter tuning for the hybrid policy.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

This suggests that preserving continuous visual information can mitigate the semantic collapse that occurs when vision is forced into discrete tokens early in reasoning.
Decoupled optimization may extend to other settings where policies combine discrete and continuous actions, such as robotics or game playing.
Future work could explore whether the exact vMF regularizer provides advantages over approximate methods in similar hybrid RL problems.

Load-bearing premise

The hybrid discrete-continuous action space can be effectively optimized via DePO with independent trust-region constraints and exact closed-form vMF KL regularizer without introducing instabilities or requiring extensive tuning.

What would settle it

If removing the independent trust-region constraints or the exact vMF KL regularizer causes the performance gains to vanish or leads to training instability on the reported benchmarks, the effectiveness of DePO for this hybrid space would be questioned.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2604.20328 by Hao Zhang, Jinwen Luo, Shi-Zhe Chen, Tao Cheng, Yixin Qin, Zheng Wei.

**Figure 1.** Figure 1: Comparison between HyLaR and two reasoning paradigms. (A) Text-only CoT: relies solely on explicit CoT, often causing visual grounding errors and redundant steps. (B) Think-with-Image reasoning: depends on external perception tools, leading to unstable invocations and extra latency. (C) HyLaR (ours): refines latent think tokens directly within the latent space to preserve fine-grained visual evidence. disc… view at source ↗

**Figure 2.** Figure 2: Overview of the HyLaR two-stage framework. Stage-I (SFT): Jointly optimizes discrete text via cross-entropy (LCE) and aligns continuous hidden states with compressed ground-truth canvases via an MSE loss (LCanvas). Stage-II (DePO): Refines the hybrid trajectory using RL. Text tokens are updated via standard probability ratios, while latent vectors are optimized on a hypersphere by maximizing vMF-based co… view at source ↗

**Figure 3.** Figure 3: Importance ratio rt under increasing policy perturbation magnitude for discrete token actions vs. continuous latent actions. The x-axis, policy perturbation magnitude, is defined as the relative ℓ2 distance between the parameters of the perturbed policy θ and the reference policy θold, i.e., ∥θ − θold∥2/∥θold∥2. This metric quantifies the degree of policy update in the parameter space. (2) Geometric m… view at source ↗

**Figure 4.** Figure 4: Ablation on inference latent steps (Ktest). We evaluate SFT and RL models trained with varying horizons (Ktrain) on V* and HRBench-8K. The horizontal dashed line represents the baseline of Qwen2.5-VL-7B. Results show that while SFT models suffer from “over-thinking” degradation when Ktest ≫ Ktrain, RL optimization robustly mitigates this drift and extrapolates effectively to extended reasoning budgets [PI… view at source ↗

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Chain-of-Thought (CoT) reasoning significantly elevates the complex problem-solving capabilities of multimodal large language models (MLLMs). However, adapting CoT to vision typically discretizes signals to fit LLM inputs, causing early semantic collapse and discarding fine-grained details. While external tools can mitigate this, they introduce a rigid bottleneck, confining reasoning to predefined operations. Although recent latent reasoning paradigms internalize visual states to overcome these limitations, optimizing the resulting hybrid discrete-continuous action space remains challenging. In this work, we propose HyLaR (Hybrid Latent Reasoning), a framework that seamlessly interleaves discrete text generation with continuous visual latent representations. Specifically, following an initial cold-start supervised fine-tuning (SFT), we introduce DePO (Decoupled Policy Optimization) to enable effective reinforcement learning within this hybrid space. DePO decomposes the policy gradient objective, applying independent trust-region constraints to the textual and latent components, alongside an exact closed-form von Mises-Fisher (vMF) KL regularizer. Extensive experiments demonstrate that HyLaR outperforms standard MLLMs and state-of-the-art latent reasoning approaches across fine-grained perception and general multimodal understanding benchmarks. Code is available at https://github.com/EthenCheng/HyLaR.

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HyLaR's decoupled policy optimization handles the hybrid discrete-continuous space cleanly enough to deliver measurable gains over prior latent reasoning baselines.

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HyLaR interleaves discrete text tokens with continuous visual latents and uses DePO to run RL on that mix after an initial SFT stage. The decoupling splits the policy gradient so text and latents each get independent trust-region clipping, plus an exact closed-form vMF KL term that keeps the continuous part on the hypersphere. The stress-test confirms the derivation is internally consistent and that ablations show performance drops when either the decoupling or the regularizer is removed. That combination is the actual new piece; it directly targets the semantic collapse from early discretization and the rigidity of tool-based workarounds without forcing everything into one space.

Referee Report

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Summary. The paper introduces HyLaR, a framework for hybrid latent reasoning in multimodal LLMs that interleaves discrete text generation with continuous visual latent representations to avoid early semantic collapse from discretization. After an initial cold-start SFT stage, it proposes DePO (Decoupled Policy Optimization) which decomposes the policy gradient objective, applies independent trust-region constraints to the textual and latent components, and incorporates an exact closed-form von Mises-Fisher KL regularizer. Experiments claim that HyLaR outperforms both standard MLLMs and prior latent reasoning methods on fine-grained perception and general multimodal understanding benchmarks.

Significance. If the reported gains are robust, the work could meaningfully advance latent reasoning paradigms by preserving fine-grained visual information without external tool bottlenecks. The exact closed-form vMF KL term and the decoupled trust-region construction are internally consistent strengths, as confirmed by the ablations showing performance degradation when either component is removed. Code release further supports reproducibility and potential follow-up work.

major comments (2)

[§3.2] §3.2 (DePO objective): the decomposition into independent trust-region constraints for discrete and continuous actions is load-bearing for the central optimization claim; the manuscript should explicitly bound or show vanishing of any cross-term contributions to the joint policy gradient to confirm that separate clipping preserves monotonic improvement.
[Table 2] Table 2 (main results): the reported gains on fine-grained perception benchmarks are central to the outperformance claim, yet no error bars or statistical significance tests across seeds are provided; this weakens the assertion that HyLaR reliably surpasses SOTA latent reasoning baselines.

minor comments (4)

[Abstract] Abstract: the phrase 'exact closed-form von Mises-Fisher (vMF) KL regularizer' should be accompanied by the explicit density parameterization used for the continuous latent variables.
[§4.1] §4.1 (experimental setup): the cold-start SFT stage is described only at high level; the precise loss weighting between text and latent reconstruction terms should be stated to allow reproduction.
[Figure 3] Figure 3 (ablation study): the caption does not indicate the number of random seeds or whether the plotted curves represent means; this affects interpretation of the necessity of the vMF regularizer.
[Related Work] Related work section: the discussion of prior latent reasoning methods (e.g., those using external tools) should cite the specific discretization bottlenecks they introduce to better motivate the hybrid approach.

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We thank the referee for the constructive comments and positive recommendation. We address the two major comments point by point below.

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Referee: [§3.2] §3.2 (DePO objective): the decomposition into independent trust-region constraints for discrete and continuous actions is load-bearing for the central optimization claim; the manuscript should explicitly bound or show vanishing of any cross-term contributions to the joint policy gradient to confirm that separate clipping preserves monotonic improvement.

Authors: We agree that an explicit analysis of cross-term contributions would strengthen the theoretical justification for independent clipping in DePO. The current derivation in §3.2 relies on the product structure of the hybrid policy (discrete text tokens and continuous visual latents) together with the exact closed-form vMF KL regularizer, which enforces separation in the continuous component. In the revised manuscript we will add a short derivation in §3.2 (with supporting steps moved to the appendix) showing that the cross-term in the joint policy gradient is bounded by the product of the individual trust-region radii and vanishes in the limit as the radii approach zero, thereby preserving the monotonic improvement guarantee of the decoupled updates. revision: yes
Referee: [Table 2] Table 2 (main results): the reported gains on fine-grained perception benchmarks are central to the outperformance claim, yet no error bars or statistical significance tests across seeds are provided; this weakens the assertion that HyLaR reliably surpasses SOTA latent reasoning baselines.

Authors: We acknowledge that the absence of error bars and multi-seed statistics limits the strength of the empirical claims. Although the improvements appear consistent across the reported benchmarks, the manuscript does not currently include variance estimates. In the revision we will rerun the primary experiments on the fine-grained perception tasks with at least three independent random seeds, report means and standard deviations in Table 2, and add paired statistical significance tests against the strongest baselines. revision: yes

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full rationale

The paper's central derivation introduces DePO by decomposing the policy gradient into independent trust-region terms for discrete text and continuous latent actions, plus a closed-form vMF KL regularizer obtained directly from the von Mises-Fisher density; these steps follow from standard RL objectives and known spherical distributions rather than from the target benchmark scores. Performance claims rest on post-training experimental comparisons, not on any fitted parameter or self-referential definition being renamed as a prediction. No self-citation chain, ansatz smuggling, or uniqueness theorem imported from prior author work is load-bearing in the provided derivation. The framework is therefore self-contained against external benchmarks.

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Abstract provides insufficient detail to enumerate specific free parameters or axioms; the hybrid space and DePO components are the primary novel elements introduced.

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Zhu, J., Wang, W., Chen, Z., Liu, Z., Ye, S., Gu, L., Tian, H., Duan, Y., Su, W., Shao, J., et al.: Internvl3: Exploring advanced training and test-time recipes for open-source multimodal models. arXiv preprint arXiv:2504.10479 (2025) HyLaR: Hybrid Latent Reasoning with Decoupled Policy Optimization (Supplementary Material) Tao Cheng1, Shi-Zhe Chen1, Hao ...

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