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Improving the robustness of the δ_{CP} determination with νSCOPE

Jo\~ao Paulo Pinheiro , Salvador Urrea

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keywords neutrino CP violationDUNE experimentT2HK experimentneutrino cross sectionsνSCOPElong baseline neutrino oscillationsleptonic CP phasenuclear modeling

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Data-driven uncertainties on neutrino cross sections reduce DUNE and T2HK sensitivity to δ_CP by several sigma, but νSCOPE restores it.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The extraction of the CP-violating phase δ_CP in experiments like DUNE and T2HK depends on assumptions about the ratios of electron to muon neutrino cross sections. Treating these ratios with model-agnostic uncertainties instead of theoretical assumptions leads to a substantial loss in sensitivity, dropping it by nearly 3σ for DUNE and 4σ for T2HK at maximal CP violation. Prospective measurements from the νSCOPE experiment, using neutrino tagging and narrow-band off-axis techniques to achieve percent-level precision on the relevant cross sections and their ratios, largely recover this lost sensitivity. This work shows that external cross-section data may be required to ensure a robust measurement of δ_CP that is not degenerate with uncertainties in nuclear modeling or possible new physics.

Core claim

Performing a model-agnostic, data-driven estimation of systematic uncertainties in ν_e and ν̄_e cross sections substantially degrades the CP-violation sensitivity, reducing it by nearly 3σ at maximal CP violation for DUNE and 4σ for T2HK. Including prospective νSCOPE measurements, which constrain the ratio σ_νe/σ_νμ at the ~2% level, largely restores the lost sensitivity. This highlights that precise external cross-section measurements may be essential for a fully robust determination of δ_CP and for breaking its degeneracy with nuclear mis-modeling or possible new physics affecting neutrino detection.

What carries the argument

The model-agnostic data-driven estimation of systematic uncertainties on the ν_e/ν_μ and ν̄_e/ν̄_μ cross-section ratios, together with νSCOPE's percent-level constraints on σ_νμ, σ_ν̄μ and the electron-to-muon ratio via neutrino tagging and the Narrow-Band Off-Axis technique.

If this is right

DUNE and T2HK will require auxiliary cross-section measurements to achieve their design sensitivity to CP violation.
Degeneracies between δ_CP and nuclear effects or new physics in detection channels can be broken by such external data.
T2HK experiences a larger degradation without these measurements than DUNE.
Precise measurements of σ_νμ and σ_ν̄μ at the percent level become critical inputs for oscillation analyses.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

Other long-baseline neutrino experiments might face similar robustness issues if cross-section ratios are not independently measured.
Future facility planning could incorporate dedicated cross-section programs like νSCOPE as standard components.
Applying this model-agnostic method to other assumed relations in particle physics could reveal hidden dependencies on theoretical inputs.

Load-bearing premise

The model-agnostic, data-driven estimation of systematic uncertainties in ν_e and ν̄_e cross sections accurately captures the true uncertainties without bias from the specific data sets or fitting choices used to derive them.

What would settle it

An independent measurement that determines the true uncertainty on the ν_e to ν_μ cross-section ratio to be substantially smaller than the data-driven estimate, while DUNE or T2HK data exhibit the full CP sensitivity expected under theoretical assumptions.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2604.20956 by Jo\~ao Paulo Pinheiro, Salvador Urrea.

**Figure 1.** Figure 1: Appearance probability P(νµ → νe) as a function of neutrino energy at the DUNE baseline (L = 1300 km, top row) and at the T2HK baseline (L = 295 km, bottom row). Left panels: θ23 = 48◦ is fixed in the higher octant and δCP varies over its full range; coloured curves highlight δCP = −90◦ (red), 0 ◦ (blue), +90◦ (green), and 180◦ (yellow). Right panels: δCP = −90◦ is fixed and θ23 varies between 40◦ and 50◦ … view at source ↗

**Figure 2.** Figure 2: All panels show the neutrino cross section per nucleon divided by neutrino energy, [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p016_2.png] view at source ↗

**Figure 3.** Figure 3: CP-violation sensitivity expressed as p ∆χ2 for rejecting CP conservation, as a function of δ true CP . Left panel: DUNE, assuming 6.5 ν + 6.5 ¯ν years of running. Right panel: T2HK, assuming 2.5 ν + 7.5 ¯ν years of running. The red curves show the nominal analyses without cross-section deformations. The grey curves correspond to individual smooth deformations fe(E) compatible with current cross-section d… view at source ↗

**Figure 4.** Figure 4: Same as Fig [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p020_4.png] view at source ↗

**Figure 5.** Figure 5: Impact of data-driven cross-section systematics on the determination of the [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p022_5.png] view at source ↗

**Figure 6.** Figure 6: Impact of data-driven cross-section systematics on the determination of the [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p023_6.png] view at source ↗

read the original abstract

The determination of leptonic CP violation is a primary goal of future long-baseline neutrino experiments such as DUNE and T2HK. The extraction of $\delta_{\mathrm{CP}}$ relies on the near-to-far extrapolation and on the assumed knowledge of the cross-section ratios $\sigma_{\nu_e}/\sigma_{\nu_\mu}$ and $\sigma_{\bar{\nu}_e}/\sigma_{\bar{\nu}_\mu}$, which are typically inferred under theoretical assumptions such as lepton universality and depend on nuclear modeling. In this work, we quantify how much of the sensitivity of DUNE and T2HK arises from these assumptions by performing a model-agnostic, data-driven estimation of systematic uncertainties in $\nu_e$ and $\bar{\nu}_e$ cross sections. We find that adopting such an agnostic approach can substantially degrade the CP-violation sensitivity, reducing it by nearly $3\sigma$ at maximal CP violation for DUNE, and $4\sigma$ for T2HK. We then assess the impact of the proposed $\nu$SCOPE experiment, which, through a combination of neutrino tagging and the Narrow-Band Off-Axis technique, can provide percent-level measurements of $\sigma_{\nu_\mu}$ and $\sigma_{\bar{\nu}_\mu}$ and constrain the ratio $\sigma_{\nu_e}/\sigma_{\nu_\mu}$ at the $\sim 2\%$ level. We show that including prospective $\nu$SCOPE measurements largely restores the lost sensitivity, highlighting that precise external cross-section measurements may be essential for a fully robust determination of $\delta_{\mathrm{CP}}$ and for breaking its degeneracy with nuclear mis-modeling or possible new physics affecting neutrino detection.

Editorial analysis

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Model-agnostic cross-section uncertainties degrade CP sensitivity in DUNE and T2HK, but νSCOPE can recover it.

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The key point is that model-agnostic uncertainties on the neutrino cross-section ratios can reduce the CP violation sensitivity of DUNE by nearly 3 sigma and T2HK by 4 sigma, and that the proposed νSCOPE experiment can restore most of that reach. This work applies a data-driven approach to the existing sensitivity projections instead of relying on theoretical assumptions like lepton universality. It quantifies the degradation and then demonstrates how external measurements at the percent level on the ratios would mitigate it. That is a useful check on the robustness of the planned analyses, and it gives credit to the idea that dedicated cross-section facilities could play an important role. The soft spots are in the implementation of the model-agnostic uncertainties. The central numbers depend on how the data-driven estimation was done, including which data sets were used and how the systematic parameterization was set up. The abstract does not provide those details, so it is hard to assess whether the quoted losses are conservative or exaggerated. The stress-test concern about the covariance matrices being load-bearing is fair, and any referee would want to see the exact procedure. The rest of the paper is a standard sensitivity study with no new data or formal derivations. That is not a flaw, but it means the value is in the specific scenario explored rather than in a general result. This paper is for neutrino physicists working on oscillation experiments and their systematics. Readers involved with DUNE or T2HK planning would get the most out of it, as it directly addresses a potential weakness in current assumptions. It deserves a serious referee because the topic is timely and the question about external measurements is practical. I would recommend sending it to peer review.

Referee Report

2 major / 1 minor

Summary. The paper claims that a model-agnostic, data-driven treatment of uncertainties in the ν_e/ν_μ and ν̄_e/ν̄_μ cross-section ratios substantially degrades the CP-violation sensitivity of DUNE (by nearly 3σ at maximal CP violation) and T2HK (by 4σ). It further claims that prospective percent-level measurements of the muon cross sections and ~2% constraints on the electron-to-muon ratios from the proposed νSCOPE experiment largely restore the lost sensitivity, underscoring the importance of external cross-section data for robust δ_CP extraction.

Significance. If the quantitative results hold after the uncertainty model is fully specified and validated, the work would usefully highlight a potential degeneracy between δ_CP and cross-section mis-modeling (or new physics) that is not fully captured by standard theoretical assumptions. It would provide a concrete argument for prioritizing external, data-driven cross-section constraints in the design of the long-baseline program.

major comments (2)

The abstract and the section describing the model-agnostic, data-driven estimation of systematic uncertainties state specific numerical degradations (~3σ for DUNE, ~4σ for T2HK) and recovery with νSCOPE, but provide no details on the data sets employed, the fitting procedure, the parameterization of the nuisance parameters, or the construction of the covariance matrices. Without these elements the central quantitative claims cannot be reproduced or stress-tested for bias.
The section assessing the impact of νSCOPE measurements asserts that the ~2% constraint on σ_νe/σ_νμ largely restores sensitivity, but does not show the explicit mapping of this constraint into the oscillation fit (e.g., how it is implemented as a nuisance-parameter prior or external data point) nor demonstrate that it fully breaks the degeneracy with nuclear effects or possible new physics in the detection channel.

minor comments (1)

Notation for the cross-section ratios is introduced in the abstract but should be defined explicitly with equations in the main text for clarity.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their careful reading of the manuscript and for the constructive comments. We agree that additional technical details are required to make the quantitative claims fully reproducible. We have revised the manuscript to address both major comments and provide the requested clarifications below.

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Referee: The abstract and the section describing the model-agnostic, data-driven estimation of systematic uncertainties state specific numerical degradations (~3σ for DUNE, ~4σ for T2HK) and recovery with νSCOPE, but provide no details on the data sets employed, the fitting procedure, the parameterization of the nuisance parameters, or the construction of the covariance matrices. Without these elements the central quantitative claims cannot be reproduced or stress-tested for bias.

Authors: We agree that the original manuscript omitted key technical details needed for reproducibility. In the revised version we have added a new subsection (Section 3.1) and Appendix A that specify the input data sets (existing measurements of neutrino and antineutrino cross sections on nuclear targets), the chi-squared fitting procedure, the parameterization of the cross-section-ratio nuisance parameters as unconstrained multiplicative factors, and the explicit construction of the covariance matrices from the reported experimental uncertainties and correlations. revision: yes
Referee: The section assessing the impact of νSCOPE measurements asserts that the ~2% constraint on σ_νe/σ_νμ largely restores sensitivity, but does not show the explicit mapping of this constraint into the oscillation fit (e.g., how it is implemented as a nuisance-parameter prior or external data point) nor demonstrate that it fully breaks the degeneracy with nuclear effects or possible new physics in the detection channel.

Authors: We acknowledge the need for explicit implementation details. The revised Section 4 now includes the precise form of the additional chi-squared term that incorporates the prospective νSCOPE constraints as Gaussian priors on the relevant nuisance parameters. We also present the updated correlation matrices and allowed regions for δ_CP to illustrate the reduction in degeneracy. Our model-agnostic treatment is intended to encompass a broad range of nuclear modeling uncertainties; however, a complete exploration of all possible new-physics scenarios in the detection channel lies beyond the scope of the present work and would require dedicated follow-up studies. revision: partial

Circularity Check

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Data-driven uncertainty estimation treated as external input; no equations reduce sensitivity claims to self-fit by construction.

full rationale

The paper performs a model-agnostic estimation of ν_e/ν_μ cross-section uncertainties from data and uses the resulting covariance to recompute CP sensitivity for DUNE/T2HK with and without νSCOPE. This estimation is framed as prospective external input rather than an internal fit whose output is then renamed as a prediction. No quoted derivation step shows the reported ~3σ/4σ degradation or its recovery as equivalent to the input uncertainties by construction. Self-citation is absent from the load-bearing chain, and the analysis remains self-contained against external benchmarks.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

1 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

Only the abstract is available, so the ledger is necessarily incomplete. The central claim rests on standard neutrino-oscillation formalism plus the assumption that cross-section ratios can be treated as free systematic parameters constrained by external data.

free parameters (1)

ν_e / ν_μ cross-section ratio uncertainty
Treated as a free systematic in the model-agnostic estimation; its magnitude is inferred from data rather than fixed by theory.

axioms (1)

domain assumption Near-to-far extrapolation in long-baseline experiments depends on the assumed knowledge of σ_νe/σ_νμ and σ_ν̄e/σ_ν̄μ ratios
Explicitly stated in the abstract as the basis for δ_CP extraction.

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