arxiv: 2605.13183 · v1 · submitted 2026-05-13 · ✦ hep-th

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Neural Networks, Dispersion Relations and the Thermal Bootstrap

Vasilis Niarchos , Constantinos Papageorgakis

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keywords conformal bootstrapdispersion relationsneural networksthermal two-point functionsOPE contributionspositivity-free bootstrapholographic CFTsgeneralized free fields

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Dispersion relations and neural networks enable a positivity-free conformal bootstrap for thermal correlators.

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The paper reviews a framework for the conformal bootstrap that avoids positivity assumptions by using dispersion relations to resum the infinite tower of high-dimension OPE contributions to correlators. Neural networks solve the resulting non-convex optimization problem for the bootstrap equations. The method is applied to scalar thermal two-point functions on a circle times flat space. Stability of the optimization is analyzed, along with links to smoothness properties of CFT correlators. Numerical illustrations are given for generalized free fields and four-dimensional holographic CFTs.

Core claim

The central claim is that dispersion relations can resum the infinite sum of high-dimension operator contributions in the OPE, reformulating the bootstrap as a non-convex optimization problem that neural networks can solve numerically, with the framework tested on thermal two-point functions for generalized free fields and holographic CFTs.

What carries the argument

Dispersion relations that resum high-dimension OPE contributions, paired with neural-network optimization of the bootstrap functional equations.

If this is right

The method computes thermal two-point functions in CFTs without requiring positivity bounds on the spectrum.
Numerical access becomes possible for cases where traditional bootstrap techniques are limited by lack of positivity.
Stability of the non-convex scheme supports reliable use for thermal correlators on S^1 x R^{d-1}.
The approach connects to discussions of smoothness properties in CFT correlators.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

The framework could extend to higher-point correlators or other geometries beyond thermal setups.
Neural networks may offer advantages over linear programming in handling nonlinear bootstrap constraints.
Further tests in higher dimensions could reveal how the method scales with spacetime dimension.

Load-bearing premise

The stability properties of the non-convex optimisation scheme hold for the relevant thermal two-point functions on S^1 x R^{d-1}.

What would settle it

A demonstration that the neural-network optimization fails to converge to known results or becomes unstable for the generalized free field thermal two-point function would falsify practical applicability of the framework.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2605.13183 by Constantinos Papageorgakis, Vasilis Niarchos.

**Figure 2.** Figure 2: GFF benchmark with d = 4, ∆ϕ = 1.68, J∗ = 6, one exposed coefficient a1,0 + 3a0,2 and a correct analytic anchor AJ (0.7)|GFF (case (ii) of the text). The first four panels show the predicted tails A0, A2, A4, A6 (blue mean ±1σ band) against the analytic GFF curves (dashed red). The fifth panel shows the combined contribution of A0 and A2 to the conformal block expansion at w = 1; the heatmap reports the re… view at source ↗

**Figure 3.** Figure 3: Mean training loss (log scale) of the 10 lowest-loss configurations as a function of the ReLU [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p017_3.png] view at source ↗

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We review a framework for the conformal bootstrap that does not rely on positivity and treats the infinite tower of high-dimension OPE contributions to conformal correlators through dispersion relations and neural networks. We apply it to scalar thermal two-point functions on $S^1\times \mathbb R^{d-1}$. We discuss the stability properties of the relevant non-convex optimisation scheme and potential relations to recent discussions of smoothness properties in CFT correlators. We illustrate the numerical application of the method to Generalized Free Fields and 4d holographic CFTs. This is a proceedings contribution to the ``Athens Workshop in Theoretical Physics: 10th Anniversary", held at the National and Kapodistrian University of Athens on December 17-19 2025.

Editorial analysis

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Desk Editor's Note private letter to a colleague

A review of NN-assisted dispersion relations for thermal CFTs that illustrates the idea but doesn't close the stability gap.

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The main thing here is that this is a proceedings review outlining how dispersion relations combined with a neural network ansatz can resum high-dimension OPE contributions in thermal two-point functions, bypassing the usual positivity requirements. It applies the setup to scalar operators on S^1 times flat space and shows some numerics on generalized free fields and 4d holographic models while touching on smoothness properties of correlators. That part is straightforward and gives a clear picture of the framework for readers who already know dispersion relations in CFTs. The illustrations work as expected in the free and holographic cases where the spectrum is under control. The paper also notes the non-convex optimization and its stability properties, which is the part that could matter for thermal bootstrap work. The soft spot is exactly the stability claim. The text asserts that the optimizer behaves well but only demonstrates it on GFFs, where the answer is known ahead of time, and on holographic examples. Nothing shows systematic checks over random seeds, architecture changes, or analytic bounds that would cover generic interacting CFTs. The non-positive kernel and the periodicity from the circle are acknowledged but not tested for whether they introduce bad local minima. No error analysis or convergence diagnostics appear in the provided material. This is for people already working on bootstrap methods who want a quick look at a positivity-free variant. A reader in that group will pick up the approach in one pass but will not get new theorems or broad benchmarks. I would not send it for peer review in its current form. It reads like workshop notes rather than a self-contained paper with verifiable claims that needs formal referee time. If the authors added more models, error bars, and a scan of the optimizer, that could shift the picture.

Referee Report

2 major / 1 minor

Summary. The manuscript reviews a framework for the conformal bootstrap that dispenses with positivity assumptions by using dispersion relations to resum the infinite tower of high-dimension OPE contributions to conformal correlators, with neural networks serving as the ansatz. It applies the method to scalar thermal two-point functions on S¹ × ℝ^{d-1}, discusses stability properties of the non-convex optimization, and provides numerical illustrations for Generalized Free Fields and 4d holographic CFTs. This is presented as a proceedings contribution.

Significance. If the stability of the optimization can be placed on firmer footing, the approach would offer a useful positivity-independent route to the thermal bootstrap, allowing control over the high-dimension tower in settings where standard positivity-based methods are limited. The numerical illustrations for GFF and holographic cases demonstrate feasibility, and the link to smoothness properties in CFT correlators merits further exploration.

major comments (2)

[Stability discussion] The discussion of stability properties of the non-convex optimization (in the section addressing the relevant scheme) relies on illustrations for Generalized Free Fields, where the spectrum is known a priori, and 4d holographic CFTs. No analytic bounds, systematic scans over random seeds or network architectures, or tests for generic interacting CFTs are provided. The non-positive kernel and S¹ periodicity constraints are noted but not shown to preserve convergence in broader cases; this is load-bearing for the claim that the method reliably resums the OPE tower.
[Numerical illustrations] In the numerical applications section, the GFF and holographic illustrations lack error analysis, convergence diagnostics (e.g., loss curves across seeds), or quantitative comparisons to independent results beyond the exactly solvable GFF limit. This weakens the assessment of accuracy for cases where the spectrum is unknown.

minor comments (1)

[Abstract] The abstract refers to 'potential relations to recent discussions of smoothness properties in CFT correlators,' but the main text provides only a brief mention without explicit connections or citations to the relevant literature.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the careful reading and constructive comments on our proceedings contribution. We address each major point below, taking into account the limited scope and length of the manuscript.

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Referee: The discussion of stability properties of the non-convex optimization (in the section addressing the relevant scheme) relies on illustrations for Generalized Free Fields, where the spectrum is known a priori, and 4d holographic CFTs. No analytic bounds, systematic scans over random seeds or network architectures, or tests for generic interacting CFTs are provided. The non-positive kernel and S¹ periodicity constraints are noted but not shown to preserve convergence in broader cases; this is load-bearing for the claim that the method reliably resums the OPE tower.

Authors: We agree that the stability discussion is based on numerical illustrations for GFF and holographic cases rather than analytic bounds or exhaustive scans. As a short proceedings contribution, a comprehensive analysis of convergence for generic interacting CFTs lies beyond the present scope. The examples demonstrate practical stability under the non-positive kernel and periodicity constraints, but we will add a clarifying sentence noting the illustrative character of these results and the desirability of further tests in future work. revision: partial
Referee: In the numerical applications section, the GFF and holographic illustrations lack error analysis, convergence diagnostics (e.g., loss curves across seeds), or quantitative comparisons to independent results beyond the exactly solvable GFF limit. This weakens the assessment of accuracy for cases where the spectrum is unknown.

Authors: We acknowledge that the current numerical section provides limited diagnostics and error estimates. For the GFF case we recover the exact result, while the holographic example is presented as a feasibility check. Within proceedings length constraints we can add a brief note on observed loss behavior and basic stability across a few seeds, but quantitative comparisons for unknown spectra are not feasible without independent methods. We will incorporate a short convergence remark in the revision. revision: partial

standing simulated objections not resolved

Analytic bounds on optimization stability or systematic architecture scans over generic CFTs, which would require a full-length research article rather than a proceedings contribution.

Circularity Check

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No circularity: review of dispersion+NN framework with external illustrations on known spectra

full rationale

The paper is explicitly a review/proceedings contribution that applies an existing dispersion-relation + neural-network framework to thermal two-point functions. Illustrations are performed on Generalized Free Fields and 4d holographic CFTs where the OPE data are known independently; the stability discussion is presented as numerical evidence rather than a derivation that reduces to a fitted parameter or self-citation chain defined inside the manuscript. No load-bearing step equates a claimed prediction to its own input by construction, and the central claim remains independent of any internal tautology.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

The framework rests on standard CFT dispersion relations and the assumption that neural-network optimization can stably approximate infinite OPE sums; no new free parameters or invented entities are introduced in the abstract.

axioms (1)

domain assumption Dispersion relations hold for conformal correlators on the thermal circle
Invoked as the basis for handling high-dimension OPE contributions.

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