arxiv: 2605.14368 · v1 · submitted 2026-05-14 · 💻 cs.CL · cs.AI

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Where Should Diffusion Enter a Language Model? Geometry-Guided Hidden-State Replacement

Injin Kong , Hyoungjoon Lee , Yohan Jo

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keywords diffusion language modelshybrid architectureshidden state geometrylayer insertiontransformer prefixeshidden-state reconstructiondiffusion bridge

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Geometry-based proxies on hidden states identify shallow layers where a diffusion bridge can replace the lower prefix of a pretrained transformer while recovering the hidden state rather than tokens.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper proposes DiHAL, which uses geometry scores computed on a pretrained transformer's hidden states to choose an insertion point. At the selected layer the lower transformer blocks are replaced by a diffusion process trained to reconstruct that layer's hidden state, leaving the upper blocks and original language-model head untouched. Experiments on 8B-scale models show that the geometry score reliably points to effective shallow insertion layers under a fixed training budget and that hidden-state recovery outperforms continuous diffusion baselines. A sympathetic reader would care because the approach offers a way to graft diffusion into existing large language models without retraining the entire stack or solving token-level discrete recovery directly.

Core claim

By scoring layers with geometry-based proxies, DiHAL selects a hidden-state interface at which the lower transformer prefix can be replaced by a diffusion bridge; training the bridge to reconstruct the chosen-layer hidden state rather than tokens produces usable diffusion language modeling, and on 8B backbones the geometry score correctly predicts that shallow insertions work well while hidden-state recovery improves over matched-budget continuous diffusion baselines.

What carries the argument

DiHAL's geometry-based layer-scoring proxies that rank hidden-state interfaces for diffusion compatibility, allowing the lower transformer prefix to be swapped for a diffusion bridge that reconstructs the selected hidden state.

If this is right

Shallow insertion points identified by geometry scores become the practical default for hybrid diffusion-transformer models.
Hidden-state reconstruction removes the need for a separate continuous-to-discrete token recovery stage.
The same geometry proxies can be reused across different backbone sizes under a fixed training budget.
Upper transformer layers and the original LM head remain frozen and functional after bridge insertion.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

The method may generalize to other continuous generative modules beyond diffusion, using the same geometry probes to locate insertion points.
If geometry scores prove stable across training checkpoints, they could serve as a cheap diagnostic for deciding which parts of a large model are most amenable to replacement by any non-autoregressive component.
Extending the approach to decoder-only models of different widths would test whether the shallow-layer preference is a general geometric property rather than an artifact of the 8B-scale experiments.

Load-bearing premise

Geometry proxies computed on the pretrained model's hidden states reliably mark layers where a diffusion bridge can be inserted without needing extensive extra validation or upper-layer retraining.

What would settle it

On additional model scales or architectures, layers ranked highest by the geometry score fail to produce better perplexity or generation quality than randomly chosen or deeper layers when trained under the same bridge protocol.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2605.14368 by Hyoungjoon Lee, Injin Kong, Yohan Jo.

**Figure 2.** Figure 2: Layer-wise geometry of hidden representations for Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct (left) and Qwen3- [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_2.png] view at source ↗

**Figure 3.** Figure 3: Fixed geometry score versus validation bridge loss for Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct (left) and [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p007_3.png] view at source ↗

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Continuous diffusion language models lag behind autoregressive transformers, partly because diffusion is applied in spaces poorly suited to language denoising and token recovery. We propose DiHAL, a geometry-guided diffusion-transformer hybrid that asks where diffusion should enter a pretrained transformer. DiHAL scores layers with geometry-based proxies, selects a diffusion-friendly hidden-state interface, and replaces the lower transformer prefix with a diffusion bridge while retaining the upper layers and original LM head. By reconstructing the selected-layer hidden state rather than tokens, DiHAL avoids direct continuous-to-discrete recovery. Experiments on 8B-scale backbones show that the geometry score predicts effective shallow insertion layers under a fixed bridge-training protocol and that hidden-state recovery improves over continuous diffusion baselines in a diagnostic comparison matching the diffusion/recovery training budget. These results suggest that hidden-state geometry helps identify where diffusion-based replacement is feasible inside pretrained language models.

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DiHAL uses geometry proxies on pretrained hidden states to pick diffusion insertion layers and reconstructs those states instead of tokens, with 8B-scale tests showing gains over baselines, but the proxies' causal role is unproven.

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The main thing to know is that this paper proposes picking a layer in a pretrained transformer via geometry scores on its hidden states, then training a diffusion bridge to reconstruct the state at that point while freezing everything above it and the LM head. They avoid token-level recovery by working directly in hidden space, and their 8B experiments indicate the geometry score favors shallow layers that work under a fixed training protocol, beating plain continuous diffusion when budgets match.

Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The manuscript introduces DiHAL, a geometry-guided hybrid that scores pretrained transformer layers with geometry-based proxies, selects a diffusion-friendly hidden-state interface, replaces the lower prefix with a diffusion bridge under a fixed training protocol, and retains the upper layers plus original LM head. Hidden states rather than tokens are reconstructed to avoid direct continuous-to-discrete mapping. Experiments on 8B-scale backbones report that the geometry score predicts effective shallow insertion layers and yields improved hidden-state recovery relative to continuous diffusion baselines when training budgets are matched.

Significance. If the geometry proxies prove robust, the work supplies a concrete, representation-driven procedure for deciding where diffusion can be grafted into existing large language models. This could reduce the need for full retraining when experimenting with diffusion components and offers a diagnostic lens on representation geometry that may generalize beyond the specific bridge architecture. The decision to target hidden-state recovery rather than token-level denoising is a clear methodological strength.

major comments (2)

[§4 (Experiments)] §4 (Experiments): the central claim that the geometry score predicts effective insertion layers rests on the untested assumption that proxies computed on the original pretrained states remain informative once the diffusion bridge alters the lower-layer distribution. No ablation is described that recomputes the geometry metric on post-training bridge outputs or that compares geometry-guided selection against non-geometric baselines (random layer, fixed depth, or activation-variance heuristics) under the identical bridge-training protocol.
[Abstract and §4] Abstract and §4: the reported improvements on 8B models are stated without accompanying details on the precise geometry proxies (distances, curvatures, or other quantities), the exact training protocol for the bridge, the choice of continuous diffusion baselines, or any statistical significance tests. These omissions prevent assessment of whether the headline result is load-bearing or reducible to the known fact that shallower layers are easier to replace.

minor comments (2)

[Abstract] Abstract: the phrase 'geometry score predicts effective shallow insertion layers' should be accompanied by a brief parenthetical definition of the score or a pointer to the relevant equation or subsection.
[§3 (Method)] §3 (Method): notation for the geometry proxies and the bridge architecture should be introduced with explicit variable definitions before first use to improve readability for readers outside the immediate subfield.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the detailed and constructive report. We address each major comment below and will revise the manuscript accordingly to strengthen the experimental validation and transparency of the results.

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Referee: [§4 (Experiments)] §4 (Experiments): the central claim that the geometry score predicts effective insertion layers rests on the untested assumption that proxies computed on the original pretrained states remain informative once the diffusion bridge alters the lower-layer distribution. No ablation is described that recomputes the geometry metric on post-training bridge outputs or that compares geometry-guided selection against non-geometric baselines (random layer, fixed depth, or activation-variance heuristics) under the identical bridge-training protocol.

Authors: We agree that an explicit test of proxy stability after bridge training is necessary to support the central claim. In the revised manuscript we will add an ablation that recomputes the geometry proxies on the post-training hidden states produced by the diffusion bridge. We will also compare geometry-guided layer selection against three non-geometric controls—random layer choice, fixed-depth insertion, and activation-variance heuristics—while keeping the bridge architecture, training protocol, and compute budget identical. This will directly address whether the original-geometry scores remain predictive after the distribution shift induced by the bridge. revision: yes
Referee: [Abstract and §4] Abstract and §4: the reported improvements on 8B models are stated without accompanying details on the precise geometry proxies (distances, curvatures, or other quantities), the exact training protocol for the bridge, the choice of continuous diffusion baselines, or any statistical significance tests. These omissions prevent assessment of whether the headline result is load-bearing or reducible to the known fact that shallower layers are easier to replace.

Authors: We acknowledge that the current version lacks sufficient detail for independent assessment. The revised manuscript will (i) explicitly define the geometry proxies (including the specific distance and curvature quantities computed), (ii) provide the complete bridge-training protocol with all hyperparameters, optimizer settings, and schedule, (iii) specify the exact continuous diffusion baselines and their training budgets, and (iv) report statistical significance (means and standard deviations over multiple random seeds together with p-values). These additions will allow readers to evaluate whether the gains exceed what would be expected from simply replacing shallower layers. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity; geometry proxy computed independently on pretrained states

full rationale

The paper's central procedure computes geometry-based proxies directly on the original pretrained hidden states to rank and select insertion layers, then applies a fixed bridge-training protocol and evaluates recovery performance against continuous diffusion baselines. This chain contains no self-definitional steps, no fitted parameters renamed as predictions, and no load-bearing self-citations or imported uniqueness theorems. The proxy is fixed before any diffusion training occurs, and empirical success is measured externally rather than by construction from the metric itself. The derivation is therefore self-contained against the reported benchmarks.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 0 axioms · 0 invented entities

Abstract-only review; no explicit free parameters, axioms, or invented entities are stated beyond the proposed geometry proxies and diffusion bridge.

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