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TopoPrimer supplies precomputed global topological structure from persistent homology and spectral sheaf coordinates as an explicit input to forecasting models.

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2026-06-30 21:26 UTC pith:TST4XPFD

load-bearing objection TopoPrimer claims topological features from persistent homology and sheaf coordinates improve forecasting on Chronos and TimesFM, but the abstract supplies no experimental controls or data-split details to back the numbers. the 2 major comments →

arxiv 2605.15035 v1 pith:TST4XPFD submitted 2026-05-14 cs.LG

TopoPrimer: The Missing Topological Context in Forecasting Models

classification cs.LG
keywords time series forecastingtopological data analysispersistent homologyspectral sheaf coordinatescold start forecastingseasonal demandChronosTimesFM
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The paper introduces TopoPrimer to treat the global topological structure of a time series population as a reusable input rather than an implicit property. It precomputes this structure once per domain using persistent homology and spectral sheaf coordinates, then injects the resulting features into any forecasting backbone. The addition raises accuracy on four public benchmarks for both fully trained and zero-shot models, with the largest benefits appearing under seasonal spikes and cold-start conditions. Sheaf coordinates account for most of the measured lift, and the topology signal remains additive to per-series training.

Core claim

TopoPrimer shows that domain-level topological context, captured once via persistent homology and spectral sheaf coordinates and supplied per token or as a lightweight adapter, raises forecasting accuracy on Chronos and TimesFM backbones, with gains up to 7.3 percent MSE on ECL, near-identical improvements in zero-shot and fine-tuned regimes, and substantially smaller degradation under peak demand or zero-history conditions.

What carries the argument

The TopoPrimer framework that precomputes topological structure via persistent homology and spectral sheaf coordinates and deploys the result as an explicit model input.

Load-bearing premise

The global topological structure of the series population can be precomputed once per domain and supplied as an explicit input that improves any forecasting model.

What would settle it

Running the same Chronos or TimesFM backbones on the ECL benchmark with and without the topological inputs and finding no measurable accuracy difference.

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Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The paper introduces TopoPrimer, a framework that precomputes global topological structure of a time series population via persistent homology and spectral sheaf coordinates and supplies these as explicit inputs (per-token for trained models or lightweight adapter for pretrained backbones) to improve forecasting accuracy. It reports consistent MSE/MAE gains (up to 7.3% MSE on ECL) when added to Chronos and TimesFM across four benchmarks, with the advantage persisting across zero-shot and fine-tuned regimes, and larger benefits under seasonal spikes (models degrade 50% while TopoPrimer stays within 10%) and cold-start (27% MAE reduction).

Significance. If the topological precomputation is performed strictly on training data only and the reported gains are reproducible with proper controls, the work would demonstrate that population-level topological signals can complement per-series training in a domain-agnostic way, with particular value in low-data or non-stationary regimes. The separation of sheaf coordinates as the primary driver is a potentially falsifiable claim worth testing.

major comments (2)
  1. [§3 (Framework and Precomputation)] §3 (Framework and Precomputation): the central claim that TopoPrimer supplies 'global topological structure of the series population' as an explicit input rests on the definition of that population. If the persistent homology and spectral sheaf coordinates are computed on the full benchmark collection (including held-out test series or periods), the features encode future information and the reported complementarity between topology and per-series training cannot be evaluated under the stated zero-shot/fine-tuned protocol.
  2. [§4 (Experiments)] §4 (Experiments): the abstract states specific percentage improvements and regime-specific robustness but supplies no baseline definitions, error bars, statistical tests, ablation isolating sheaf vs. homology components, or confirmation that topological features were computed only on training splits; without these the 7.3% ECL gain and 'near-identical magnitude' across regimes cannot be assessed as load-bearing evidence.
minor comments (2)
  1. [§2] Notation for sheaf coordinates and the precise adapter architecture should be formalized with equations rather than prose descriptions.
  2. [§4] Figure captions and table headers should explicitly state whether results are zero-shot or fine-tuned and which backbone is used.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the careful and constructive review. The two major comments raise important issues of experimental rigor and potential data leakage. We address each below and will incorporate revisions to strengthen the manuscript.

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  1. Referee: §3 (Framework and Precomputation): the central claim that TopoPrimer supplies 'global topological structure of the series population' as an explicit input rests on the definition of that population. If the persistent homology and spectral sheaf coordinates are computed on the full benchmark collection (including held-out test series or periods), the features encode future information and the reported complementarity between topology and per-series training cannot be evaluated under the stated zero-shot/fine-tuned protocol.

    Authors: We agree that the population must be strictly the training series to avoid leakage. In our implementation the persistent homology and spectral sheaf coordinates are computed solely on the training splits of each benchmark; the held-out test periods are never used. The manuscript will be revised in §3 to state this explicitly, to define the population as the training collection per domain, and to include pseudocode confirming the split usage. revision: yes

  2. Referee: §4 (Experiments): the abstract states specific percentage improvements and regime-specific robustness but supplies no baseline definitions, error bars, statistical tests, ablation isolating sheaf vs. homology components, or confirmation that topological features were computed only on training splits; without these the 7.3% ECL gain and 'near-identical magnitude' across regimes cannot be assessed as load-bearing evidence.

    Authors: The current draft indeed omits several requested controls. The revised §4 will add: explicit baseline definitions, error bars from repeated runs, statistical significance tests, a dedicated ablation separating sheaf coordinates from persistent homology, and a direct statement confirming training-only feature computation. These additions will make the reported gains and regime comparisons fully evaluable. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity: empirical framework with no derivation chain or self-referential predictions

full rationale

The provided abstract and description contain no equations, no claimed first-principles derivations, and no predictions that reduce to fitted parameters or self-citations by construction. TopoPrimer is presented as an explicit input feature (persistent homology + spectral sheaf coordinates) precomputed per domain and added to existing models, with reported gains being empirical rather than derived. No load-bearing steps match any of the enumerated circularity patterns; the central claim is a performance improvement on benchmarks, which is testable independently of the method's internal definitions.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 1 invented entities

Only the abstract is available, so the ledger is limited to what is explicitly invoked there; persistent homology and spectral sheaf theory are treated as standard tools whose application to time-series populations is assumed to yield useful coordinates.

axioms (1)
  • domain assumption Persistent homology and spectral sheaf coordinates can extract a global topological structure from a population of time series that is useful as model input.
    Invoked in the abstract's description of how TopoPrimer is precomputed once per domain.
invented entities (1)
  • TopoPrimer framework no independent evidence
    purpose: To make global topological structure an explicit input to forecasting models via two deployment modes.
    Introduced as the central contribution in the abstract.

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We introduce TopoPrimer, a framework that makes the global topological structure of the series population an explicit input to any forecasting model. TopoPrimer improves accuracy across diverse domains, stabilizes forecasts under seasonal demand spikes, and closes the cold-start gap. Precomputed once per domain via persistent homology and spectral sheaf coordinates, TopoPrimer deploys per token for fully-trained models and as a lightweight adapter for pre-trained backbones. Of these two components, sheaf coordinates are the primary accuracy driver. Across four public benchmarks on Chronos and TimesFM, TopoPrimer consistently improves forecasting accuracy, with gains of up to 7.3% MSE on ECL. The topology advantage persists with near-identical magnitude across zero-shot and fine-tuned backbones, suggesting topology and per-series training capture complementary signals. The gains are most pronounced in difficult regimes. Under peak seasonal demand, classical and zero-shot models degrade by up to 50%, while TopoPrimer stays within 10%. At cold start with no item history, TopoPrimer reduces MAE by 27% over a topology-free baseline.

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