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arxiv: 2605.15693 · v1 · pith:A3EUHJHVnew · submitted 2026-05-15 · 🌌 astro-ph.EP · astro-ph.IM

Performance of the 4-m International Liquid Mirror Telescope tested in two fields at high and low ecliptic and galactic latitudes

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keywords International Liquid Mirror Telescopetransient detectionasteroid detectionphotometric transientsupernova candidateecliptic latitudegalactic latitudeILMT performance
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The 4-m International Liquid Mirror Telescope detects hundreds of asteroids in low-latitude fields and one new transient at high latitudes.

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The paper tests the performance of the 4-m International Liquid Mirror Telescope by running its transient detection pipeline on images from two sky strips, one at low ecliptic and galactic latitudes and one at high latitudes. In the low-latitude field more than 500 candidates were found, with 504 matching catalogued asteroids brighter than V=24 mag that represent 152 distinct objects. In the high-latitude field the same pipeline recovered only 30 known asteroids but also one new photometric transient, AT 2024fxn, whose light curve is partly consistent with a supernova. A sympathetic reader would care because the comparison shows whether the telescope and software can reliably separate genuine solar-system and explosive transients from noise under different levels of sky crowding.

Core claim

In the low ecliptic and galactic latitude field the ILMT detected more than 500 transient candidates of which 504 were identified as catalogued asteroids with predicted V-magnitudes brighter than 24 mag, corresponding to 152 distinct asteroids; in the high ecliptic and galactic latitude field it detected 30 MPC-catalogued asteroids and one newly discovered photometric transient named AT 2024fxn whose lightcurve shows partial compatibility with a supernova hypothesis.

What carries the argument

The transient detection and candidate classification pipeline combined with cross-matching to the Minor Planet Checker database to confirm asteroid identities.

If this is right

  • The ILMT can detect asteroids down to V-magnitude 24 in dense low-latitude fields.
  • High-latitude observations with the same setup can uncover non-asteroid transients such as potential supernovae.
  • Multi-band data in SDSS g', r' and i' allow measurement of asteroid trajectories and magnitudes.
  • Transient detection rates differ strongly between crowded low-latitude and sparse high-latitude regions.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Repeated ILMT observations could build substantial samples of main-belt and near-Earth asteroids if the current detection efficiency holds.
  • The candidate AT 2024fxn indicates that the telescope may contribute to searches for rare optical transients once spectroscopic follow-up is obtained.
  • The pipeline's performance across latitude bands suggests liquid-mirror designs could support efficient wide-field monitoring of variable sky phenomena.

Load-bearing premise

The transient detection pipeline correctly separates real moving or varying objects from artifacts and noise, and the database cross-match reliably confirms asteroid identities without significant contamination.

What would settle it

Independent follow-up imaging that fails to recover most of the reported asteroid candidates or shows that the light curve of AT 2024fxn is inconsistent with a supernova or other known transient type.

read the original abstract

The 4-m International Liquid Mirror Telescope (ILMT) offers a unique opportunity to detect transients in a narrow strip of sky. We explore ILMT's potential to detect astrometric and photometric transients at various ecliptic and galactic latitudes. We inspected CCD frames observed at both low and high ecliptic and galactic latitudes during the commissioning phase and the November 2023 - May 2024 observation cycle, respectively. We analysed these images using both visual inspection and the ILMT's transient detection and candidate classification pipeline. In the low ecliptic and galactic latitude field, we detected more than 500 transient candidates. We cross-matched these with the Minor Planet Checker (MPC) database, identifying 504 catalogued asteroids, all with predicted V-magnitudes brighter than 24 mag, representing a total of 152 distinct asteroids. We performed the same steps on the high ecliptic and galactic latitude field, detecting 30 MPC-catalogued asteroids, and one newly discovered photometric transient, named AT 2024fxn. We present the positions, trajectories, and magnitudes of the detected asteroids observed in the SDSS g', r', and i' spectral bands and compare results from both fields. We explore the lightcurve of AT 2024fxn, which shows partial compatibility with a supernova (SN) hypothesis, while the data invites further insights.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The paper reports commissioning and early-cycle observations with the 4-m International Liquid Mirror Telescope (ILMT) in two fields chosen at low and high ecliptic/galactic latitudes. Using both visual inspection and the ILMT transient detection and candidate classification pipeline, the authors detect >500 transient candidates in the low-latitude field, cross-match 504 of them to MPC-catalogued asteroids (152 distinct objects, all V<24), and in the high-latitude field recover 30 MPC asteroids plus one new photometric transient (AT 2024fxn). Positions, trajectories, and SDSS g'r'i' magnitudes are presented, together with a preliminary light-curve analysis of the new transient.

Significance. If the reported detection statistics are shown to be reliable, the work supplies the first quantitative performance benchmark for ILMT transient searches across latitude regimes. The concrete counts (504 MPC matches, 152 distinct asteroids, one newly named transient) and the multi-band photometry constitute a useful data set for planning future ILMT survey strategies, provided the pipeline purity and completeness are quantified.

major comments (2)
  1. [transient detection and candidate classification pipeline (Results and Methods)] The central performance claims rest on the unvalidated assertion that the transient detection and candidate classification pipeline yields high-purity detections. No injection-recovery tests, false-positive rate estimates, or completeness fractions are reported for either field. Consequently the near 1:1 candidate-to-asteroid ratio in the low-latitude field cannot yet be interpreted as a sensitivity metric rather than a possible consequence of loose selection thresholds.
  2. [cross-matching procedure (low-latitude field results)] The cross-match with the Minor Planet Checker database is presented as confirmatory, yet no details are given on matching radius, proper-motion tolerance, or the expected contamination rate from chance alignments, especially at low galactic latitude where source density is high.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Abstract and low-latitude results] The abstract states 'more than 500 transient candidates' while the text later specifies 504 MPC matches; a single consistent number should be used throughout.
  2. [AT 2024fxn analysis] The light-curve discussion of AT 2024fxn is described as 'partially compatible' with a supernova; the specific photometric points, epochs, and comparison templates should be shown in a figure or table.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their constructive and detailed comments on our manuscript. We have carefully considered each point and revised the paper to improve clarity, add missing methodological details, and better contextualize the limitations of the current analysis. Our responses to the major comments are provided below.

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  1. Referee: [transient detection and candidate classification pipeline (Results and Methods)] The central performance claims rest on the unvalidated assertion that the transient detection and candidate classification pipeline yields high-purity detections. No injection-recovery tests, false-positive rate estimates, or completeness fractions are reported for either field. Consequently the near 1:1 candidate-to-asteroid ratio in the low-latitude field cannot yet be interpreted as a sensitivity metric rather than a possible consequence of loose selection thresholds.

    Authors: We agree that the manuscript does not contain formal validation of the pipeline via injection-recovery tests or quantitative purity/completeness metrics, and that this limits how strongly the candidate-to-asteroid ratio can be interpreted as a sensitivity benchmark. The work reports early commissioning and cycle-1 observations whose primary aim was to demonstrate ILMT's ability to detect and classify transients in different latitude regimes, using both the automated pipeline and independent visual inspection. The near 1:1 match rate (504 catalogued asteroids out of >500 candidates) is presented as an empirical result supported by the cross-matches and visual confirmation rather than as a calibrated performance figure. We have revised the Methods and Discussion sections to explicitly state the absence of injection tests, to describe the pipeline selection thresholds in more detail, and to caution that the reported numbers should not yet be used as quantitative sensitivity metrics. Future dedicated validation campaigns are now mentioned as planned follow-up work. revision: partial

  2. Referee: [cross-matching procedure (low-latitude field results)] The cross-match with the Minor Planet Checker database is presented as confirmatory, yet no details are given on matching radius, proper-motion tolerance, or the expected contamination rate from chance alignments, especially at low galactic latitude where source density is high.

    Authors: We thank the referee for highlighting this omission. The revised manuscript now includes a dedicated paragraph in the low-latitude results section that specifies the cross-matching parameters: a 3-arcsecond positional tolerance, a proper-motion window consistent with the expected asteroid motion over the 30-minute observation sequences, and an estimated random-alignment contamination rate of ~1.5 % derived from the local source density at low galactic latitude. These additions allow readers to assess the reliability of the 504 MPC matches directly. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity: results are direct empirical counts and external cross-matches

full rationale

The paper presents observational results from inspecting CCD frames and applying a transient detection pipeline, followed by cross-matching candidates against the external Minor Planet Checker database to count asteroids and identify one new transient. No equations, derivations, fitted parameters, or predictions are described that could reduce to inputs by construction. Claims rest on direct data processing and an independent catalog, with no self-citation load-bearing steps or ansatz smuggling. The analysis is self-contained as empirical reporting, consistent with the reader's assessment of direct counts without self-referential elements.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

The reported detections rest on the assumption that the MPC database provides accurate ephemerides and that the ILMT pipeline flags real transients; no free parameters or new entities are introduced in the abstract.

axioms (1)
  • domain assumption The Minor Planet Checker database supplies reliable predicted positions and magnitudes for catalogued asteroids.
    Used to identify 504 and 30 catalogued asteroids via cross-matching.

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