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Iterative prompting in foundation segmentation models induces decoder coupling drift that accumulates errors, and constraining prompt updates stabilizes attention alignment without retraining.

2026-06-29 23:06 UTC pith:KJGN2KNA

load-bearing objection The paper flags decoder attention drift in iterative SAM prompting and offers a training-free stabilizer, but the internal signals are not shown to track actual segmentation quality. the 2 major comments →

arxiv 2605.25730 v1 pith:KJGN2KNA submitted 2026-05-25 cs.CV

DeCoDrift: Stabilizing Decoder Coupling in Closed-Loop Foundation Segmentation

classification cs.CV
keywords decoder coupling driftclosed-loop segmentationiterative promptingattention stabilityfoundation modelstemporal coherenceprompt-image coupling
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Foundation segmentation models turn mask prediction into a closed-loop process when each output mask is reused as the next prompt. This feedback causes the decoder's cross-attention to lose alignment with the target object over successive iterations. The paper instruments the decoder to extract ground-truth-free signals of coupling strength, attention stability, and temporal consistency, then formalizes the process as a discrete-time dynamical system. It shows that standard iteration amplifies misalignment relative to anchored feedback and introduces a stabilization method that constrains prompt changes to preserve decoder coupling. Experiments on volumetric electron microscopy data indicate consistent gains in stability metrics and final segmentation quality.

Core claim

The paper establishes that closed-loop iterative prompting produces decoder coupling drift, in which the mask decoder's cross-attention progressively decouples from the target, and that this drift is captured by measurable internal signals of prompt-image coupling, attention stability, and temporal consistency. Formalizing the loop as a discrete-time dynamical system reveals error amplification; proximal anchoring of prompts reduces that amplification. The resulting training-free method, which constrains prompt updates at inference time, demonstrably improves the three decoder signals and segmentation accuracy compared with unanchored iteration.

What carries the argument

DeCoDrift, an inference-time framework that constrains prompt updates to preserve decoder coupling across iterations in the closed-loop dynamical system.

Load-bearing premise

Decoder-internal signals of prompt-image coupling, attention stability, and temporal consistency reliably indicate degradation and the discrete-time dynamical system accurately models error growth in the feedback loop.

What would settle it

A direct measurement on volumetric data showing that attention-alignment and temporal-coherence metrics do not improve when prompt updates are constrained by the stabilization method versus standard iterative prompting.

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If this is right

  • Attention stability and temporal coherence improve relative to unanchored iteration on the same model.
  • Segmentation quality rises without any retraining or ground-truth supervision.
  • The dynamical-system view supplies a way to diagnose and mitigate drift in other iterative prompting pipelines.
  • Decoder-internal measurements can serve as actionable control signals for stabilizing closed-loop use.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

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  • The same stabilization logic could be tested on other foundation models that reuse their own outputs as prompts.
  • Extending the dynamical-system analysis to continuous-time approximations might reveal additional drift modes.
  • The approach may generalize to iterative tasks outside segmentation, such as repeated object tracking or video mask propagation.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The manuscript claims that closed-loop iterative prompting in foundation segmentation models like SAM induces 'decoder coupling drift,' where the mask decoder's cross-attention loses alignment with the target, leading to error accumulation. By instrumenting the decoder, they derive ground-truth-free measures of prompt-image coupling, attention stability, and temporal consistency. They formalize the process as a discrete-time dynamical system, show that standard prompting degrades these measures compared to oracle feedback on volumetric EM data, and propose DeCoDrift, a training-free method that constrains prompt updates to stabilize the coupling, reporting consistent improvements in stability, coherence, and segmentation quality.

Significance. If the decoder-internal signals are reliable proxies for degradation (i.e., correlate with actual mask quality) and the dynamical system accurately models the feedback loop, this work could be significant for improving iterative use of foundation models in segmentation tasks without requiring retraining or supervision. It provides actionable insights into decoder dynamics and a practical stabilization framework, which could extend to other closed-loop applications of vision foundation models.

major comments (2)
  1. [Experimental validation section] The central claim that decoder-internal signals (prompt-image coupling, attention stability, temporal consistency) provide reliable ground-truth-free measures of degradation requires explicit validation; no correlation analysis between these signals and actual segmentation metrics (e.g., IoU or Dice) is reported, which is load-bearing for the assertion that DeCoDrift improves segmentation quality.
  2. [Dynamical system formalization] The discrete-time dynamical system formalization and claim that proximal anchoring reduces error amplification are introduced, but the model equations are not tested or shown to hold under the nonlinear cross-attention updates in the decoder, weakening the theoretical basis for the stabilization method.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] The abstract asserts the existence of decoder coupling drift and consistent improvements but supplies no quantitative results, equations, or error analysis, making it difficult to evaluate support for the claims.
  2. [Introduction] Ensure the new term 'decoder coupling drift' is clearly defined and distinguished from related attention or drift phenomena in the literature to avoid potential confusion.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

2 responses · 0 unresolved

We thank the referee for the constructive feedback. We address each major comment below and indicate planned revisions.

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  1. Referee: [Experimental validation section] The central claim that decoder-internal signals (prompt-image coupling, attention stability, temporal consistency) provide reliable ground-truth-free measures of degradation requires explicit validation; no correlation analysis between these signals and actual segmentation metrics (e.g., IoU or Dice) is reported, which is load-bearing for the assertion that DeCoDrift improves segmentation quality.

    Authors: We agree that an explicit correlation analysis between the decoder-internal signals and ground-truth metrics would strengthen the validation of these signals as reliable proxies. The manuscript demonstrates that DeCoDrift improves both the internal signals and segmentation quality (measured via IoU/Dice), but does not report direct correlations. In revision we will add this analysis, computing correlations across iterations on the volumetric EM data. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Dynamical system formalization] The discrete-time dynamical system formalization and claim that proximal anchoring reduces error amplification are introduced, but the model equations are not tested or shown to hold under the nonlinear cross-attention updates in the decoder, weakening the theoretical basis for the stabilization method.

    Authors: The dynamical system is presented as an analytical framework to interpret observed drift and motivate proximal anchoring, rather than a fully validated predictive model of the nonlinear decoder. Empirical results show reduced error accumulation consistent with the framework's predictions. We will revise the text to clarify the modeling assumptions and the role of the formalization as a guiding lens supported by experiments. revision: partial

Circularity Check

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full rationale

The provided manuscript text consists solely of the abstract, which describes the derivation of ground-truth-free measures and formalization of iterative prompting as a discrete-time dynamical system but presents no equations, parameter fits, self-citations, or explicit reductions. No load-bearing step can be quoted or shown to reduce to its inputs by construction. The derivation chain is therefore not inspectable for circularity and is treated as self-contained.

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invented entities (1)
  • decoder coupling drift no independent evidence
    purpose: Names the progressive loss of cross-attention alignment in the mask decoder during iterative prompting
    New descriptive term introduced for the observed failure mode; no independent evidence provided in abstract.

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Foundation segmentation models such as Segment Anything Model (SAM) are now routinely used in iterative pipelines, where each predicted mask is fed back as the next prompt. This practice turns segmentation into a closed-loop dynamical process, yet the decoder-level behavior of these systems remains largely unexamined. We show that this feedback loop can induce a previously overlooked failure mode, decoder coupling drift, in which the mask decoder's cross-attention progressively loses alignment with the target object, causing errors to accumulate across iterations. We study this phenomenon by instrumenting SAM's mask decoder and deriving ground-truth-free measures of prompt-image coupling, attention stability, and temporal consistency. On volumetric electron microscopy data, these decoder-internal signals reveal that standard iterative prompting systematically degrades attention alignment and temporal coherence relative to oracle-anchored feedback. We then formalize iterative prompting as a discrete-time dynamical system and show how proximal anchoring reduces error amplification in the feedback loop. Building on this analysis, we introduce DeCoDrift, a training-free inference-time stabilization framework that constrains prompt updates and preserves decoder coupling across iterations. Across extensive experiments, DeCoDrift consistently improves attention stability, temporal coherence, and segmentation quality over standard iterative prompting, without retraining or ground-truth supervision. More broadly, our results show that decoder-internal dynamics are not merely diagnostic: they provide actionable signals for stabilizing foundation segmentation models in closed-loop use.

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Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2605.25730 by H. M. Shadman Tabib, Md. Shamsuzzoha Bayzid, M Sohel Rahman.

Figure 1
Figure 1. Figure 1: Overview. (a) Method A iteratively feeds predicted masks back as prompts (high AAD, low TCS). (b) Method B (oracle) uses ground-truth-derived anchor prompts. (c) DeCoDrift (A-Stab) inserts a training-free stabilization module bounding drift via proximal regularization. (d) All methods share decoder instrumentation that hooks four attention sites and records per-call coupling metrics. where fθ is the SAM de… view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Figure 2: Dynamical-systems view. (a) Prompt-space trajectories: Method A (red) drifts unboundedly (ρ(J)≥1); DeCoDrift (green) stays inside the proximal envelope (ρreg ≈0.76); Method B (blue) is near-static. (b) Cumulative prompt error over iterations: A grows as ρ t ; DeCoDrift bounded as 0.76t ; B near-zero. The empirical AAD/PDE in Tables 2 and 3 match this geometric-vs-bounded prediction. 4 Dynamical Systems Ana… view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Figure 3: DeCoDrift stabilization module. The frozen SAM ViT-H decoder produces candidate masks and attention maps that flow through four sequential components: ⃝1 attention-guided prompt extraction weights centroids/bboxes by the head-averaged attention Ft; ⃝2 proximal anchor reg￾ularization blends pˆt with anchor p0 and previous prompt pt−1 (effective spectral radius ≈0.76); ⃝3 decoder-aware candidate scoring trad… view at source ↗
Figure 4
Figure 4. Figure 4: Per-slice coupling. Method A (red) vs. Method B oracle (blue) across 10 MitoEM slices. The gap is persistent and consistent. (4) Soft object persistence. Hard IQR filtering can drop temporarily occluded objects. We replace binary keep/drop with keep(i) = (conf i>τs) ∨ (AADi<τd) ∨ (TCSi>τc), with anchor-based recovery for up to Kmax consecutive lost iterations. 6 Experiments Setup. We evaluate on MitoEM Wei… view at source ↗
Figure 5
Figure 5. Figure 5: Stabilization results [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_5.png] view at source ↗
Figure 5
Figure 5. Figure 5: Additional per-slice decoder-coupling metrics. Method A (red) vs. Method B oracle (blue). Raw DLR varies over several orders of magnitude across small/large objects, motivating the log scaling and clamp at τclamp=104 used in Section 3 [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p007_5.png] view at source ↗

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