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Internal settings connect energy and entropy balances due to flux interdependence in non-equilibrium thermodynamics
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load-bearing objection The paper introduces 'thermodynamical verification' but asserts without derivation that interdependence of fluxes and differentials implies connection via 'internal settings'. the 1 major comments →
Constitutive Settings with regard to Energy- and Entropy-Balances in Non-Equilibrium Thermodynamics: the Thermodynamical Verification
The pith
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Core claim
Constitutive equations have to be in agreement with the energy- and entropy-balances. For achieving that, the procedure of thermodynamical verification is introduced: Because heat flux and entropy flux as well as the time differentials of internal energy and entropy are not independent of each other, energy- and entropy-balances are connected with each other by so-called internal settings laying down the theoretical frame of the applied material description which is characterized by additional constitutive settings.
What carries the argument
Internal settings that connect the energy- and entropy-balances by exploiting the interdependence of heat flux, entropy flux, and the time differentials of internal energy and entropy.
Load-bearing premise
The interdependence of heat flux, entropy flux, and the time differentials of internal energy and entropy requires internal settings to connect the balances.
What would settle it
An explicit construction of constitutive equations that satisfy both balances without any internal settings would show the connection is unnecessary.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript introduces a 'thermodynamical verification' procedure to ensure constitutive equations agree with energy- and entropy-balances in non-equilibrium thermodynamics. It claims that the non-independence of heat flux, entropy flux, and the time differentials of internal energy and entropy connects the two balances through 'internal settings' that define the theoretical frame of the material description, which is further characterized by additional constitutive settings.
Significance. If the internal settings were explicitly defined, derived from standard balance laws or entropy-production inequalities, and illustrated with at least one concrete constitutive model, the procedure could provide a useful consistency check for material modeling. As presented, the claim restates a known interdependence without new derivations, examples, or operational content, limiting its potential impact.
major comments (1)
- Abstract: the central inference that non-independence of the fluxes and time differentials 'directly' requires 'internal settings' to connect the balances is asserted without derivation, without reference to the local energy balance, entropy balance, or Gibbs relation, and without an example of how an internal setting is constructed or verified. This assertion is load-bearing for the entire proposed procedure.
minor comments (2)
- The title is overly long and does not clearly indicate the absence of explicit derivations or examples.
- No citations to standard references on constitutive theory (e.g., works on rational thermodynamics or extended irreversible thermodynamics) are provided to situate the 'internal settings' relative to existing approaches.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the detailed reading of the manuscript. Below we address the single major comment point by point.
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Referee: Abstract: the central inference that non-independence of the fluxes and time differentials 'directly' requires 'internal settings' to connect the balances is asserted without derivation, without reference to the local energy balance, entropy balance, or Gibbs relation, and without an example of how an internal setting is constructed or verified. This assertion is load-bearing for the entire proposed procedure.
Authors: The abstract is deliberately concise. The body of the manuscript begins from the standard local statements of the energy balance and the entropy balance, notes the non-independence of the heat flux, entropy flux, and the material time derivatives of internal energy and entropy, and introduces the internal settings precisely as the relations that close this interdependence within a chosen material description. The Gibbs relation enters through the entropy balance in the usual way. The internal settings are therefore not an additional postulate but the explicit statement of the theoretical frame that makes the two balances consistent for any subsequent constitutive choices. We agree that an explicit worked example would strengthen the presentation and are prepared to add one in revision. revision: partial
Circularity Check
Internal settings introduced by definition to connect balances due to asserted non-independence of fluxes and differentials.
specific steps
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self definitional
[Abstract]
"Because heat flux and entropy flux as well as the time differentials of internal energy and entropy are not independent of each other, energy- and entropy-balances are connected with each other by so-called internal settings laying down the theoretical frame of the applied material description which is characterized by additional constitutive settings."
The sentence asserts non-independence as the cause for the existence of internal settings, yet the settings are introduced precisely to connect the balances and to characterize the material description via constitutive settings; the connection is therefore true by the definition of the settings rather than derived from prior independent relations.
full rationale
The abstract presents the non-independence of heat flux, entropy flux, dU/dt and dS/dt as the reason that balances are connected via internal settings, but those settings are defined exactly as the additional constitutive elements that lay down the material frame and enforce the connection. This makes the claimed link between non-independence and the verification procedure self-definitional rather than independently derived. No further equations or external benchmarks are supplied in the provided text to break the definitional loop.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
read the original abstract
Constitutive equations have to be in agreement with the energy- and entropy- balances. For achieving that, the procedure of thermodynamical verification is introduced: Because heat flux and entropy flux as well as the time differentials of internal energy and entropy are not independent of each other, energy- and entropy-balances are connected with each other by so-called internal settings laying down the theoretical frame of the applied material description which is characterized by additional constitutive settings.
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Works this paper leans on
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[1]
Papenfuß, C.:Continuum Thermodynamics and Constitutive Theory; Springer Nature: Switzerland, 2020; Chapter 3.3; doi.org/10.1007/978- 3-030-43989-7
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[2]
Muschik, W.: Aspects of Non-Equilibrium Thermodynamics. Sect. 1.2. World Scientific, Singapore, 1990
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