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Leveraging Metric Depth for Relative Depth Prediction

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Pith's one-line read Metric depth estimates from large pretrained models enable effective relative depth prediction in football scenes with only thousands of training samples.

desk verdict This is a narrow competition report applying known pretrained metric depth models to football scenes, but it supplies no ablations or baselines to show the pretraining actually helps over direct fine-tuning. read the letter →

arxiv 2606.10628 v1 pith:J6IQ3MNU submitted 2026-06-09 cs.CV

Xiaoyang Bi , Shuaikun Liu , Zhaohong Liu , Yuxin Yang , Zhe Zhao , Mengshi Qi , Liang Liu , Huadong Ma This is my paper
classification cs.CV
keywords relativedepthpredictionmetricpretrainedmodelsmonocularestimationsoccerscenesNetzero-shottransferlimiteddata
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The reading

The paper addresses the problem of predicting relative depth in soccer footage when labeled data is limited to a few thousand examples. It does so by first obtaining metric depth predictions from models that have already seen massive general datasets, then adapting those outputs to the relative depth task. A reader would care because many practical vision applications in sports or surveillance face exactly this data scarcity while general pretraining data is abundant. If the transfer works, relative depth becomes practical without collecting expensive domain-specific 3D labels.

What carries the argument

Transfer of zero-shot metric depth predictions from large pretrained models to serve as guidance for the relative depth task.

What would settle it

Training an identical model architecture on the same football data but without any metric depth pretraining step and checking whether the resulting challenge score stays near 2.68 × 10^{-3} or becomes substantially worse.

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Extended reading notes

Core claim

By taking advantage of the zero-shot metric depth capabilities of models pretrained on large-scale datasets, the method learns to predict relative depth effectively in football scenarios, reaching a score of 2.68 × 10^{-3} on the challenge set.

Load-bearing premise

That metric depth estimates produced by general pretrained models still supply useful information when applied inside the narrow visual domain of football scenes after adaptation on limited task data.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • Relative depth prediction becomes feasible in other data-scarce scene types that share visual traits with football footage.
  • Zero-shot outputs from large models can act as an intermediate representation that reduces the sample complexity of the target task.
  • The approach demonstrates that metric depth can be repurposed even when the final requirement is only relative ordering.
  • Competition performance at 2.68 × 10^{-3} shows the transfer is already accurate enough for the SoccerNet benchmark.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The same pretraining-to-relative transfer could be tested on other sports videos or indoor scenes to measure how domain-specific the gain is.
  • If the method scales, it would lower the annotation cost for building depth-aware sports analytics tools.
  • A natural next test would replace the soccer fine-tuning data with even fewer examples to find the minimum data threshold where the pretrained metric signal still helps.
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Referee Report

3 major / 1 minor

Summary. The manuscript presents a solution to the 2025 SoccerNet Monocular Depth Estimation Competition Challenge. It claims that by leveraging zero-shot capabilities of models pretrained on large-scale datasets to learn metric depth, effective relative depth prediction can be achieved in football scenarios despite only thousands of training samples, with a reported score of 2.68 × 10^{-3} on the challenge set.

Significance. If substantiated with proper controls, the result would indicate that metric depth pretraining transfers usefully to relative depth prediction in narrow domains with limited data. This could be significant for applications where labeled data is scarce, highlighting the value of large-scale pretraining for specialized depth estimation tasks.

major comments (3)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract: The central claim that pretrained metric depth models enable effective relative depth prediction relies on transfer from large-scale pretraining, but the text supplies no implementation details, model architecture, fine-tuning procedure, or method for converting metric outputs to relative predictions, rendering the claim unevaluable.
  2. [Results] Results: No ablation studies or baseline comparisons are presented to show that metric depth pretraining outperforms direct relative-depth fine-tuning on the same limited football dataset, which is required to verify the transfer benefit asserted in the abstract.
  3. [Methods] Methods: The manuscript provides no description of how the zero-shot metric depth estimates are adapted, regularized, or used as input for the relative depth task, leaving the key methodological step unspecified.
minor comments (1)
  1. The reported score lacks context such as comparison to other competition entries or error analysis on football-specific challenges (e.g., player motion, field markings).

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

3 responses · 0 unresolved

We thank the referee for the detailed comments on our competition solution manuscript. We address each point below and will revise the manuscript to provide the requested details and comparisons.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: The central claim that pretrained metric depth models enable effective relative depth prediction relies on transfer from large-scale pretraining, but the text supplies no implementation details, model architecture, fine-tuning procedure, or method for converting metric outputs to relative predictions, rendering the claim unevaluable.

    Authors: The manuscript is a concise competition report, which accounts for the brevity. We will revise the abstract and add a methods section specifying the exact zero-shot pretrained model (architecture and training data scale), confirming no fine-tuning was performed on the football dataset, and detailing the conversion step (normalization of metric depth values to a relative scale via min-max scaling to align with competition annotations). revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Results] Results: No ablation studies or baseline comparisons are presented to show that metric depth pretraining outperforms direct relative-depth fine-tuning on the same limited football dataset, which is required to verify the transfer benefit asserted in the abstract.

    Authors: We agree that the absence of ablations limits substantiation of the transfer claim. In the revision we will add a results subsection with a direct baseline: a model fine-tuned from scratch on relative depth labels using the same limited training set, to quantify the performance gain from the metric pretraining approach. revision: yes

  3. Referee: [Methods] Methods: The manuscript provides no description of how the zero-shot metric depth estimates are adapted, regularized, or used as input for the relative depth task, leaving the key methodological step unspecified.

    Authors: We will expand the methods to describe the process: the zero-shot metric depth model is applied directly to input images with no additional training or regularization; the resulting metric outputs are then converted to relative depth via a deterministic post-processing normalization that maps the values to the [0,1] relative range required by the task. revision: yes

Circularity Check

0 steps flagged · score 0.0 of 10

No derivation chain or equations present; empirical method is self-contained.

full rationale

The paper describes an empirical competition solution that fine-tunes or adapts large-scale pretrained metric-depth models for relative-depth output on limited football data. No equations, parameter-fitting steps, self-citations, or uniqueness claims appear in the provided text. The central claim rests on the external zero-shot capability of the pretrained models rather than any internal reduction to the paper's own fitted values or prior self-referential results. This is the normal case of a non-circular empirical report.

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abstract

We present our solution to the 2025 SoccerNet Monocular Depth Estimation Competition Challenge. Predicting the relative depth in football scenarios is challenging, especially with only thousands of training samples available. To address this issue, our method leverages the powerful zero-shot capabilities of models pretrained on large-scale datasets to learn metric depth for effective relative depth prediction, achieving a score of $2.68 \times 10^{-3}$ on the challenge set.

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