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Prompt, Plan, Extract: Zero-Shot Agentic LLMs Workflows for Lung Pathology Extraction from Clinical Narratives

T0 review · 3 major / 1 minor · reviewed 2026-06-26 · grok-4.3

Pith's one-line read Zero-shot agentic LLMs populate 13 CAP fields from lung reports at 0.893 Micro-F1 without training.

desk verdict Zero-shot agentic LLMs reach 0.893 Micro-F1 on 13 CAP lung fields versus 0.960 for the GatorTron baseline, but the comparison hinges on whether the registry-aligned eval treats both systems the same way. read the letter →

arxiv 2606.19852 v2 pith:CVW24JX5 submitted 2026-06-18 cs.CL cs.LG

classification cs.CLcs.LG
keywords zero-shotlearninglargelanguagemodelsinformationextractionpathologyreportslungcanceragenticworkflowsclinicalnarrativesregistry
verification ladder T0 review T1 audit T2 compute T3 formal

The pith

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The reading

This paper develops a zero-shot agentic workflow that applies open-source generative LLMs to extract structured data for 13 College of American Pathologists synoptic fields from lung resection pathology reports. It evaluates five such models against a supervised GatorTron NER-RE baseline using a registry-aligned framework, with the top model reaching Micro-F1 of 0.893 and recall of 0.949 while handling relations like pathologic stage. A sympathetic reader would care because manual extraction for cancer registries is labor-intensive and error-prone, and supervised pipelines demand expensive annotations plus risk cascading failures. The results position these LLMs as a potential low-cost alternative for information extraction from clinical narratives.

What carries the argument

The zero-shot agentic workflow that decomposes extraction into prompt, plan, and extract steps using generative LLMs to fill the 13 CAP fields directly from narrative text.

What would settle it

A manual gold-standard review on a new collection of lung resection reports where the best zero-shot model's Micro-F1 on the 13 fields falls substantially below 0.893.

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Extended reading notes

Core claim

By applying a zero-shot agentic workflow to five open-source LLMs, the study populates the 13 College of American Pathologists synoptic fields from lung resection pathology reports, with the best model (GPT-OSS-20B) achieving a Micro-F1 of 0.893 and recall of 0.949, closely approaching the supervised GatorTron baseline's 0.960 while accurately handling complex relations such as Pathologic Stage.

Load-bearing premise

The novel registry-aligned evaluation framework produces an unbiased, apples-to-apples comparison between the zero-shot LLM outputs and the supervised GatorTron baseline on the 13 CAP fields.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • The workflow avoids the need for expensive manual annotation required by supervised NER-RE pipelines.
  • Cascading failures from missed upstream entities in traditional methods are reduced.
  • Open-source models can serve as a low-cost solution for extracting lung pathology information.
  • Complex relations such as pathologic stage can be extracted accurately without task-specific training.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The same workflow structure could be tested on pathology reports from other cancer sites to check transferability.
  • Integration with existing registry systems might reduce the time and cost of manual abstraction.
  • Performance on rarer or more complex fields could be measured separately to identify remaining gaps.
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Editorial analysis

A structured set of objections, weighed in public.

Desk editor's note, referee report, simulated authors' rebuttal, and a circularity audit.

Referee Report

3 major / 1 minor

Summary. The paper claims to develop a zero-shot agentic LLM workflow that populates 13 College of American Pathologists (CAP) synoptic fields from lung resection pathology reports. Five open-source generative LLMs are evaluated against a supervised GatorTron NER-RE baseline using a novel registry-aligned evaluation framework, reporting Micro-F1 scores of 0.960 (baseline) versus 0.893 (best LLM, GPT-OSS-20B with recall 0.949), and concludes that such models show potential as a low-cost alternative for lung pathology information extraction.

Significance. If the evaluation framework produces a fair, apples-to-apples comparison, the work would demonstrate that zero-shot agentic LLMs can achieve competitive performance on structured clinical extraction tasks without task-specific training or annotation, offering a practical low-cost alternative to supervised pipelines for cancer registry population and staging.

major comments (3)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract: the central performance comparison (Micro-F1 0.893 vs 0.960) is presented without any dataset size, number of reports, definitions of the 13 CAP fields, or description of the agentic workflow steps (planning/extraction), rendering the claim unverifiable from the provided text and blocking assessment of reproducibility.
  2. [Evaluation Framework] Evaluation Framework (implied in methods/results): the registry-aligned framework is load-bearing for attributing the performance gap to the zero-shot approach, yet no explicit description is given of how LLM-generated outputs are parsed, string-matched, or semantically aligned versus the entity/relation-level errors of the NER-RE baseline; if matching rules differ (e.g., allowing multi-step correction or looser normalization for generative outputs), the scores are not directly comparable.
  3. [Results] Results: no error analysis or breakdown by field (especially for complex relations like Pathologic Stage) is supplied, which is required to substantiate the claim that the LLM 'accurately extracting complex relations' without task-specific training.
minor comments (1)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract: 'Micro-F1of' is missing a space before 0.960.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

3 responses · 0 unresolved

We thank the referee for their constructive comments. We address each major comment below and indicate the revisions we will make to improve the manuscript.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: the central performance comparison (Micro-F1 0.893 vs 0.960) is presented without any dataset size, number of reports, definitions of the 13 CAP fields, or description of the agentic workflow steps (planning/extraction), rendering the claim unverifiable from the provided text and blocking assessment of reproducibility.

    Authors: We agree that the abstract should be more self-contained to support verifiability. In the revised manuscript we will expand the abstract to report the number of lung resection pathology reports in the dataset, provide a brief enumeration or definition of the 13 CAP synoptic fields, and include a concise description of the agentic workflow steps (prompt, plan, extract). revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Evaluation Framework] Evaluation Framework (implied in methods/results): the registry-aligned framework is load-bearing for attributing the performance gap to the zero-shot approach, yet no explicit description is given of how LLM-generated outputs are parsed, string-matched, or semantically aligned versus the entity/relation-level errors of the NER-RE baseline; if matching rules differ (e.g., allowing multi-step correction or looser normalization for generative outputs), the scores are not directly comparable.

    Authors: The Methods section introduces the registry-aligned evaluation framework, but we acknowledge that the parsing, string-matching, and semantic alignment steps for LLM outputs require more explicit detail to demonstrate comparability with the NER-RE baseline. We will revise the Methods to add a dedicated subsection describing the exact procedures for parsing generative outputs, normalization rules, and matching criteria, and we will explicitly state that identical alignment rules are applied to both the LLM and baseline outputs. revision: yes

  3. Referee: [Results] Results: no error analysis or breakdown by field (especially for complex relations like Pathologic Stage) is supplied, which is required to substantiate the claim that the LLM 'accurately extracting complex relations' without task-specific training.

    Authors: We agree that an error analysis and field-level breakdown would strengthen the results section and better support the claim regarding complex relations. In the revised manuscript we will add an error analysis subsection that includes per-field Micro-F1 scores and qualitative discussion of errors, with focused attention on Pathologic Stage and other complex relations. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity

full rationale

The paper is an empirical study reporting Micro-F1 scores from zero-shot LLM agentic workflows on 13 CAP fields, compared directly to an external supervised GatorTron NER-RE baseline via a described registry-aligned evaluation. No equations, derivations, fitted parameters, or self-referential definitions appear in the chain; the performance delta is measured against an independent model rather than constructed from the LLM outputs themselves. The novel evaluation framework is presented as a methodological choice without reducing to prior self-citations or ansatzes that would force the result.

Assumptions & free parameters 0 free parameters · 1 assumptions · 0 invented entities

The central claim rests on the domain assumption that pathology reports contain the 13 CAP fields in extractable narrative form and that the registry-aligned evaluation is unbiased. No free parameters or invented entities are introduced in the abstract.

assumptions (1)
  • domain assumption Lung resection pathology reports contain the 13 College of American Pathologists synoptic fields in narrative text that can be extracted by LLMs.
    Required for the extraction task to be well-defined.

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Pith. "Pith review of Prompt, Plan, Extract: Zero-Shot Agentic LLMs Workflows for Lung Pathology Extraction from Clinical Narratives." pith.science (2026). https://pith.science/paper/CVW24JX5

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  author       = {Pith},
  title        = {Pith review of: Prompt, Plan, Extract: Zero-Shot Agentic LLMs Workflows for Lung Pathology Extraction from Clinical Narratives},
  year         = {2026},
  howpublished = {\url{https://pith.science/paper/CVW24JX5}},
  note         = {Machine review of arXiv:2606.19852}
}
read the original abstract

Information extraction from pathology reports is essential for cancer staging, tumor registry population. Yet key data remains embedded in narrative reports, making manual extraction labor-intensive and error-prone. Traditional supervised Natural Language Processing pipelines address this through fully supervised Named Entity Recognition and Relation Extraction, but require expensive manual annotation and suffer cascading failures when upstream entities are missed. In this study, we developed a zero-shot, agentic workflow, and evaluated five open-source generative Large Language Models (LLMs) to populate 13 College of American Pathologists synoptic fields from lung resection pathology reports. We compared them against a state-of-the-art supervised GatorTron NER-RE baseline using a novel, registry-aligned evaluation framework. The baseline achieved Micro-F1of 0.960, while the best zero-shot model (GPT-OSS-20B) achieved Micro-F1 of 0.893 (recall: 0.949), accurately extracting complex relations like Pathologic Stage without task-specific training. These results suggest that open-source, zero-shot agentic LLMs show great potential as a low-cost solution for extracting lung pathology information.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2606.19852 by the authors.

Figure 1
Figure 1. Mind-map of CAP-aligned clinical information extraction schema for lung resection pathology reports. The extraction schema was hierarchically modeled after the College of American Pathologists (CAP) synoptic reporting guidelines for lung carcinoma, encompassing core domains such as Specimen Details, Tumor Characteristics, Tumor Extent and Invasion, Margin Status, Lymph Nodes, and Pathologic Staging. Initial annotati… view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Architecture of the zero-shot LangGraph agentic workflow for CAP-aligned lung pathology extraction. 1. Mapper: The Mapper node receives the raw pathology report as input and segments it into semantically coherent sections such as SPECIMEN, TUMOR, MARGINS, LYMPH NODES, and PATHOLOGIC STAGING. This step anchors the extraction to the natural rhetorical structure of pathology reports and reduces the burden on later node… view at source ↗

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