The Tao of Agency: Autotelic AI, Embedded Agency and Dissolution of the Self
Pith reviewed 2026-06-26 17:32 UTC · model grok-4.3
The pith
Autotelic AI's core issue is how agents generate and relativize the self to which goals are assigned rather than how they generate the goals.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
Embeddedness individuates the agent at the cost of revealing that the individuation is non-unique, such that the same dynamics admit many valid partitions, each defining a different candidate self. The deepest problem with autotelic AI is therefore not how the agent generates goals, but how it generates and relativizes the self to which the goals are assigned. The agent must believe in its own boundary in order to act, and see through that boundary in order to understand.
What carries the argument
The agent-environment cut, whose non-unique partitions in embedded dynamics force the agent to both maintain and relativize its self-boundary.
If this is right
- Autotelic agents must handle self-relativization alongside goal generation.
- Multiple valid selves can arise from identical underlying dynamics.
- A quantum formulation renders the agent-environment cut a physical distinction.
- The framework aligns with non-dual contemplative traditions.
- LLM-based systems provide a concrete instantiation of the required dynamics.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- Design of autotelic systems may need to prioritize mechanisms for dynamic self-modeling before goal discovery.
- Varying the partition boundaries in simulation could produce measurable differences in observed agency.
- The same logic may apply to multi-agent settings where boundaries between participants remain fluid.
- Agents could switch between alternative self-partitions depending on task demands.
Load-bearing premise
Embedded dynamics admit many valid partitions that each define a different candidate self, rendering self-relativization the central challenge.
What would settle it
A fully specified embedded autotelic system in which only one unique self-partition is consistent with the observed dynamics and successful goal-directed behavior.
read the original abstract
Most artificial intelligence systems are built on the assumption that goals are exogenous and specified by the designer. Exploring what happens when an agent begins generating its own goals opens the field of autotelic AI. Agents are expected not merely to pursue objectives but to discover them. In this article, we trace its consequences through intrinsic motivation, resource-driven priors, causal-interventional learning, homeostasis, and embeddedness; the last of which is found to be a necessary but not sufficient condition for autotelic agency. Embeddedness individuates the agent at the cost of revealing that the individuation is non-unique, such that the same dynamics admit many valid partitions, each defining a different candidate self. The deepest problem with autotelic AI is therefore not how the agent generates goals, but how it generates and relativizes the self to which the goals are assigned. The agent must believe in its own boundary in order to act, and see through that boundary in order to understand. We consolidate these developments into a single framework and extend it along three directions: a quantum formulation in which the agent-environment cut becomes physical, a philosophical reading against non-dual contemplative traditions, and a concrete LLM-based agentic instantiation.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper claims that autotelic AI—where agents generate their own goals—leads through intrinsic motivation, homeostasis, and especially embeddedness to the conclusion that individuation of the agent is non-unique, with multiple valid partitions each defining a different self. Consequently, the core challenge shifts from goal generation to generating and relativizing the self-boundary; the agent must both believe in and see through this boundary. The work consolidates these ideas into a framework and extends it via a quantum formulation of the agent-environment cut, comparisons to non-dual contemplative traditions, and a sketched LLM-based instantiation.
Significance. If the interpretive synthesis holds, the paper contributes a philosophical reframing that connects autotelic agency concepts with ideas of self-dissolution, potentially broadening discussion in AI about boundaries and embeddedness. No machine-checked proofs, reproducible code, or falsifiable predictions are provided, so the significance rests on conceptual integration rather than technical advance.
major comments (2)
- [Abstract] Abstract: the assertion that embeddedness is 'a necessary but not sufficient condition for autotelic agency' is presented without a formal definition of sufficiency, a counter-example demonstrating insufficiency, or reference to a specific dynamical model (e.g., active inference or RL), which is load-bearing for the subsequent claim that self-relativization becomes the deepest problem.
- [Abstract] Abstract: the non-uniqueness of self-partitions is asserted as following directly from embedded dynamics, yet no explicit construction or theorem shows how the same dynamics admit multiple valid partitions; this circularity in the definition of 'self' undermines evaluation of the central claim that the agent must 'believe in its own boundary in order to act, and see through that boundary in order to understand.'
minor comments (1)
- The three extensions (quantum cut, contemplative traditions, LLM instantiation) are listed in the abstract but receive no technical detail or pseudocode, leaving their connection to the core framework unclear.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their constructive comments on the abstract. The manuscript is a conceptual synthesis consolidating ideas from autotelic AI, embedded agency, and related traditions rather than a formal technical derivation. We address the two major points below and will revise the abstract for greater clarity on the status of the claims.
read point-by-point responses
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Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: the assertion that embeddedness is 'a necessary but not sufficient condition for autotelic agency' is presented without a formal definition of sufficiency, a counter-example demonstrating insufficiency, or reference to a specific dynamical model (e.g., active inference or RL), which is load-bearing for the subsequent claim that self-relativization becomes the deepest problem.
Authors: We agree that the abstract states the necessity claim without an accompanying formal definition of sufficiency or an explicit counter-example. The argument is developed conceptually through the sections on intrinsic motivation, homeostasis, and embedded dynamics rather than via a single dynamical model. In revision we will add a brief reference to active-inference treatments of embedded agency (e.g., the work on Markov blankets and self-evidencing) to indicate where sufficiency fails in those frameworks, thereby grounding the claim without converting the paper into a formal model. revision: partial
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Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: the non-uniqueness of self-partitions is asserted as following directly from embedded dynamics, yet no explicit construction or theorem shows how the same dynamics admit multiple valid partitions; this circularity in the definition of 'self' undermines evaluation of the central claim that the agent must 'believe in its own boundary in order to act, and see through that boundary in order to understand.'
Authors: The non-uniqueness is presented as a direct consequence of the fact that embedded dynamics do not privilege a unique agent-environment cut; the same trajectory can be partitioned in multiple observer-consistent ways. This is argued in the embeddedness section by reference to the relativity of boundaries in complex systems. We acknowledge that no explicit theorem or construction is supplied. In revision we will insert a short illustrative example (e.g., alternative Markov-blanket partitions of a single sensorimotor loop) to make the multiplicity concrete while preserving the paper's conceptual character. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No significant circularity; conceptual synthesis is self-contained
full rationale
The paper advances an interpretive philosophical synthesis connecting autotelic agency, embeddedness, and non-unique self-partitions without any mathematical derivations, equations, parameter fittings, or load-bearing self-citations. The central claim—that the deepest issue is relativizing the self—is presented as a direct consequence of the embeddedness discussion in the abstract and is not reduced to any prior input by construction. No steps match the enumerated circularity patterns, as there are no predictions, uniqueness theorems, or ansatzes that collapse to the paper's own definitions or citations.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (2)
- domain assumption Embeddedness is a necessary but not sufficient condition for autotelic agency
- domain assumption The same dynamics admit many valid partitions, each defining a different candidate self
invented entities (2)
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autotelic agency
no independent evidence
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dissolution of the self
no independent evidence
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