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arxiv: 2606.25212 · v2 · pith:74WRTWK2new · submitted 2026-06-23 · 💻 cs.RO

RigPI: Dynamic Parameter Identification of Rigid Body via VLM-Seeded Differentiable Simulation

Xincheng He , Rongrong Zhang , Wei Jiang , Wenqiang Xu This is my paper

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keywords rigid body dynamicsparameter identificationdifferentiable simulationvision-language modelsrobotic manipulationsystem identificationforce-torque sensing
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RigPI uses a vision-language model to seed and constrain a differentiable simulator for identifying inertial and frictional parameters of rigid bodies during robot interaction.

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The paper introduces RigPI to determine the physical properties of objects that robots manipulate from real interactions. It combines semantic guidance from a vision-language model with force-torque and motion data inside a differentiable physics engine. The two-stage process first uses the model to set a plausible starting point and search limits, then refines the values with simulation gradients. If the method works, the resulting parameters allow forward prediction of how the robot and object will behave together. This supports building digital twins that remain faithful when the robot performs new actions.

Core claim

RigPI integrates vision-based semantic priors, force-torque measurements, and motion observations within a differentiable simulation pipeline. A vision-language model supplies informed initialization and a constrained search space, while gradient information from the simulator enables efficient parameter refinement. The two-stage optimization strategy reduces sensitivity to noise and avoids physically implausible solutions. Real-world experiments on objects with revolute and prismatic joints show that the method produces accurate and stable estimates that reproduce manipulation trajectories on a physical robot.

What carries the argument

The two-stage optimization that first applies VLM-derived initialization and search-space constraints, then performs gradient-based refinement inside the differentiable simulator.

If this is right

  • Parameter estimates remain stable across repeated trials despite sensing noise.
  • Identified values allow a robot to reproduce observed manipulation trajectories when used in prediction.
  • The framework applies to both single rigid bodies and multi-link assemblies with revolute or prismatic joints.
  • Two-stage refinement prevents convergence to non-physical parameter sets.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The same seeding approach could reduce the amount of physical interaction data needed when identifying parameters for new object classes.
  • Parameter sets obtained this way might support longer-horizon planning in manipulation tasks where model mismatch would otherwise accumulate.
  • Extending the differentiable simulator to include contact-rich or deformable elements would test whether the VLM seeding strategy generalizes beyond rigid bodies.

Load-bearing premise

The vision-language model must provide initialization and search-space limits accurate and unbiased enough that gradient descent converges to physically consistent values instead of noise-driven local minima.

What would settle it

Forward-simulate the identified parameters on held-out real-robot interaction sequences and measure trajectory error; sustained large mismatches between predicted and observed motion would show the estimates lack predictive validity.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2606.25212 by Rongrong Zhang, Wei Jiang, Wenqiang Xu, Xincheng He.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: RigPI estimates an object’s mass, inertia, and friction [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p002_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: RigPI takes recorded robot interaction data as input, including forces, torques, and poses, and is initialized with a [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: Examples of physical parameter identification using our RigPI system. Each subfigure shows the unconstrained or [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: Qualitative results of trajectory reproduction by [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p007_4.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 5. Figure 5: Illustrative example of convergence curves for dif [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p008_5.png] view at source ↗
read the original abstract

Accurate physical parameter identification of manipulated objects is fundamental to advanced robotic manipulation and the construction of faithful digital twins. However, acquiring physically consistent inertial and frictional properties from real-world interactions remains challenging due to sensing noise, modeling errors, and limited prior knowledge. This paper presents RigPI, a systematic framework for identifying dynamic parameters of both unconstrained rigid bodies and multi-link rigid bodies during robot-object interaction. RigPI integrates vision-based semantic priors, force-torque measurements, and motion observations within a differentiable simulation pipeline. A vision-language model (VLM) provides informed initialization and a constrained search space, while gradient information from a differentiable physics simulator enables efficient and stable parameter refinement. The proposed two-stage optimization strategy alleviates sensitivity to noise and avoids physically implausible solutions. Extensive real-world experiments on objects with revolute and prismatic joints demonstrate that RigPI achieves accurate and stable parameter estimates, and successfully reproduces manipulation trajectories on a real robot with parameter-aware predictive validity. These results highlight the effectiveness and robustness of RigPI for real-world robotic system identification tasks.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The paper introduces RigPI, a two-stage framework for dynamic parameter identification of rigid bodies (including multi-link systems with revolute or prismatic joints) that combines VLM-derived semantic priors for initialization and search-space constraints, force-torque sensing, motion observations, and gradient-based refinement inside a differentiable physics simulator. The central claim is that this pipeline yields physically consistent inertial and frictional parameters that enable accurate, stable estimates and parameter-aware predictive reproduction of manipulation trajectories on hardware.

Significance. If the experimental claims hold with quantitative support, the work would offer a practical advance in robotic system identification by reducing reliance on manual priors and mitigating noise sensitivity through constrained differentiable optimization. Strengths include the explicit integration of vision-language priors with physics-based gradients and the focus on real-world robot-object interaction rather than simulation-only validation.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract / Experiments] Abstract and experimental validation sections: the claims of 'accurate and stable parameter estimates' and 'successful reproduction of manipulation trajectories with parameter-aware predictive validity' are asserted without any reported quantitative metrics (e.g., RMSE on parameters or trajectories, error bars, baseline comparisons to non-VLM or non-differentiable methods, or exclusion criteria for trials). This absence prevents evaluation of the data-to-claim link and is load-bearing for the central experimental contribution.
  2. [Method / Experiments] Optimization pipeline description (likely §3 or §4): it is not shown whether any reported performance metric is independent of the fitted parameters themselves (e.g., whether trajectory reproduction error is computed on held-out data or is partly defined by the same parameters being optimized), raising a potential circularity concern that must be addressed with explicit equations and evaluation protocol.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Method] Notation for the constrained search space and VLM-derived bounds should be defined explicitly with equations rather than prose descriptions to allow reproducibility.
  2. [Figures] Figure captions for any trajectory plots or parameter convergence curves should include axis labels, units, and whether shaded regions represent standard deviation across trials.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

2 responses · 0 unresolved

We thank the referee for the constructive feedback on RigPI. We address each major comment below and will revise the manuscript to strengthen the experimental reporting and evaluation protocol.

read point-by-point responses

  1. Referee: [Abstract / Experiments] Abstract and experimental validation sections: the claims of 'accurate and stable parameter estimates' and 'successful reproduction of manipulation trajectories with parameter-aware predictive validity' are asserted without any reported quantitative metrics (e.g., RMSE on parameters or trajectories, error bars, baseline comparisons to non-VLM or non-differentiable methods, or exclusion criteria for trials). This absence prevents evaluation of the data-to-claim link and is load-bearing for the central experimental contribution.

    Authors: We agree that the provided manuscript text does not report specific quantitative metrics such as RMSE values, error bars, baseline comparisons, or trial exclusion criteria to support the claims. In the revised manuscript, we will incorporate these metrics from the real-world experiments, including parameter estimation errors, trajectory reproduction errors, comparisons to non-VLM and non-differentiable baselines, and details on data handling to establish a clear data-to-claim link. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Method / Experiments] Optimization pipeline description (likely §3 or §4): it is not shown whether any reported performance metric is independent of the fitted parameters themselves (e.g., whether trajectory reproduction error is computed on held-out data or is partly defined by the same parameters being optimized), raising a potential circularity concern that must be addressed with explicit equations and evaluation protocol.

    Authors: We acknowledge the circularity concern. The revised manuscript will include an explicit description of the evaluation protocol with equations, clarifying that trajectory reproduction errors are computed on held-out real-robot interaction data separate from the optimization process, ensuring independence from the fitted parameters. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity identified

full rationale

The provided abstract and description outline a standard two-stage pipeline: VLM supplies initialization and search-space constraints, followed by gradient-based refinement in a differentiable simulator using force-torque and motion data. Reported outcomes are accuracy of fitted parameters and forward prediction of held-out manipulation trajectories on hardware. No equations, self-citations, or steps are exhibited that reduce the claimed predictions or uniqueness results to the fitted inputs by construction, nor is any performance metric defined tautologically in terms of the parameters themselves. The central claim rests on empirical validation rather than self-referential definitions.

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