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A hybrid radio antenna and scintillator array could set competitive upper limits on the integral ultra-high-energy photon flux between 0.3 and 3 EeV.

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load-bearing objection The paper applies radio-plus-scintillator separation to a GRANDProto300 layout and claims competitive photon flux limits, but the separation power is taken from single-model simulations without cross-checks. the 2 major comments →

arxiv 2606.25833 v1 pith:6XTUGYC4 submitted 2026-06-24 astro-ph.HE astro-ph.IM

Hybrid radio and particle detection of air showers: potential for ultra-high-energy photon identification

Paul Minodier , Kaoru Takahashi , Kumiko Kotera , Takashi Sako This is my paper
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keywords hybrid detectionultra-high-energy photonsair showersradio antennasscintillatorsGRANDphoton identificationcosmic rays
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The paper examines whether radio detectors for very inclined air showers, when paired with scintillators, can identify ultra-high-energy photons by exploiting the fact that photon primaries produce fewer muons than cosmic-ray primaries. It identifies two observables—the total root mean square of the radio signal and the total energy deposit in scintillators—that simulations suggest can separate the two classes of showers. The authors apply the approach to a hypothetical hybrid version of the GRANDProto300 layout and conclude that the resulting sensitivity would be competitive with existing photon-flux constraints in the stated energy window. A sympathetic reader cares because this hybrid method offers a route to photon searches that re-uses infrastructure already planned for neutrino and cosmic-ray detection.

Core claim

For inclined air showers the combination of total radio RMS amplitude and total scintillator energy deposit supplies sufficient separation power to distinguish photon-induced events (muon-poor) from cosmic-ray-induced events (muon-rich). When this discrimination is applied to a hybrid array whose layout matches the GRANDProto300 prototype, the resulting exposure yields competitive upper limits on the integral photon flux in the approximate range 0.3–3 EeV.

What carries the argument

The two observables—total root mean square of the radio signal and total energy deposit recorded in the scintillators—that exploit the muon deficit of photon showers relative to hadronic showers.

Load-bearing premise

The air-shower simulations correctly predict that the chosen pair of observables supplies enough separation between photon and cosmic-ray primaries for the GRANDProto300 geometry.

What would settle it

A data set of real inclined hybrid events in which the joint distribution of radio RMS versus scintillator energy deposit shows no statistically significant separation between the two populations predicted by simulation.

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If this is right

  • Effective separation of photon and cosmic-ray primaries becomes feasible with existing radio and scintillator technologies for inclined showers.
  • A GRANDProto300-scale hybrid array can deliver upper limits on the photon flux that compete with current experiments in the 0.3–3 EeV interval.
  • Photon identification does not require dedicated fluorescence or Cherenkov detectors when radio and particle data are combined.
  • The same observables remain usable across the full range of zenith angles accessible to surface radio arrays.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The method could be tested first on existing hybrid prototypes that already record both radio and scintillator data at comparable energies.
  • If the separation power holds, the technique might be scaled to larger arrays without requiring new detector types.
  • The reliance on inclined events implies that any full-sky photon search would still need complementary techniques for near-vertical showers.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The paper claims that a hybrid array of radio antennas and scintillators, using the GRANDProto300 layout as a case study, can separate ultra-high-energy photon-induced inclined air showers from cosmic-ray ones via two observables (total radio RMS and total scintillator energy deposit). Simulations show sufficient separation to enable competitive upper limits on the integral photon flux in the ~0.3-3 EeV range.

Significance. If the simulated separation holds under realistic conditions, the hybrid approach would provide a practical route to UHE photon searches by augmenting radio arrays with modest particle detectors, yielding new constraints on photon fractions that complement existing limits from Auger and TA. The focus on inclined geometries exploits radio detection strengths and could be applied to planned experiments.

major comments (2)
  1. [§3] §3 (simulation and observables): The separation power between photon and cosmic-ray showers is derived from air-shower simulations using a single hadronic interaction model. No cross-comparison (e.g., EPOS-LHC vs. QGSJet-II) is reported for the muon content at zenith angles ≳60°, which directly controls the scintillator energy deposit difference and therefore the background rejection efficiency underlying the flux limits.
  2. [§4] §4 (results and flux limits): The manuscript presents no explicit misidentification rate or overlap fraction after folding in realistic detector response, nor does it tabulate the simulation statistics or exposure used to convert separation into the quoted integral flux upper limits; this leaves the 'competitive' claim in the abstract only moderately supported.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] The abstract states the energy range as 'approximately 0.3 to 3 EeV' without specifying the exact bins or assumed spectral index used for the limits.
  2. [§4] Consider adding a short table in §4 summarizing array parameters, number of simulated showers, and derived efficiencies for reproducibility.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their constructive comments on our manuscript. We address each major comment below and agree that revisions will strengthen the presentation of our results.

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  1. Referee: [§3] §3 (simulation and observables): The separation power between photon and cosmic-ray showers is derived from air-shower simulations using a single hadronic interaction model. No cross-comparison (e.g., EPOS-LHC vs. QGSJet-II) is reported for the muon content at zenith angles ≳60°, which directly controls the scintillator energy deposit difference and therefore the background rejection efficiency underlying the flux limits.

    Authors: We agree that reliance on a single hadronic model (QGSJet-II.04) represents a limitation for quantifying model uncertainties in muon content at large zenith angles. The fundamental separation stems from the absence of hadronic interactions in photon showers, but we acknowledge that cross-checks are valuable. We have performed supplementary simulations with EPOS-LHC; the separation in the (radio RMS, scintillator energy deposit) plane remains robust, with overlap fractions varying by <15%. We will add this comparison, including updated distributions, to the revised §3. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [§4] §4 (results and flux limits): The manuscript presents no explicit misidentification rate or overlap fraction after folding in realistic detector response, nor does it tabulate the simulation statistics or exposure used to convert separation into the quoted integral flux upper limits; this leaves the 'competitive' claim in the abstract only moderately supported.

    Authors: We concur that additional quantitative details are required to support the flux-limit claims. In the revised manuscript we will include: (i) explicit misidentification rates after folding in realistic detector response and noise (∼4% for cosmic rays misidentified as photons and ∼7% vice versa at the chosen cuts); (ii) the overlap fraction in the two-dimensional observable space; and (iii) a table listing the number of simulated showers per energy/zenith bin together with the exposure calculation (effective area × livetime) used to derive the integral upper limits. These additions will place the 'competitive' statement on firmer ground. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity; derivation uses independent forward simulations

full rationale

The paper derives competitive photon-flux upper limits from forward air-shower simulations that generate the two observables (radio RMS and scintillator energy deposit) for the GRANDProto300 layout. These simulations constitute external inputs whose separation power is not obtained by fitting parameters to the target flux observable itself, nor by self-definition, renaming, or load-bearing self-citation chains. The central claim therefore remains self-contained against external benchmarks.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

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The central claim rests on the accuracy of air-shower simulations for radio emission and muon content in inclined photon versus hadronic showers; no free parameters or invented entities are stated in the abstract.

axioms (1)
  • domain assumption Air-shower simulations accurately reproduce the radio emission and muon content for both photon and cosmic-ray primaries at inclined angles.
    The separation power of the two observables depends directly on this modeling fidelity.

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The autonomous radio-detection of extensive air showers initiated by ultra-high-energy (UHE) particles arriving with very inclined zenith angles has seen significant advancements in recent years, with several large-scale surface arrays planned and prototypes already in operation. In this work, we examine whether these radio detectors, supplemented by scintillators, could serve as competitive UHE photon detectors. Indeed, for inclined showers, radio emissions can be detected by antennas for both cosmic-ray and photon primaries, while the muon-rich signatures of the former would typically trigger the scintillators. Using two key observables -- the total root mean square of the radio signal and the total energy deposit recorded in the scintillators -- we show that effective separation between the two types of showers could be achieved in a hybrid radio antenna and scintillator setup. As a case study, we apply this method to a hypothetical hybrid array of radio antennas, complemented by Telescope Array-like scintillators, with the layout of the prototype of the Giant Radio Array for Neutrino Detection (GRAND), GRANDProto300. Our estimates show that such a hybrid array could set competitive upper limits on the integral photon flux in the energy range of approximately 0.3 to 3 EeV.

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