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ADVENT: LLM-Driven Automatic Predicate Invention for ILP

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Pith's one-line read LLMs paired with Prolog verification can invent predicates that enable ILP to succeed where it previously failed entirely.

desk verdict ADVENT shows an LLM+Prolog loop can invent reusable predicates for ILP where plain ILP fails on poker tasks, but the reported gains rest on thin experimental detail. read the letter →

arxiv 2607.01585 v1 pith:LAE6G7BP submitted 2026-07-02 cs.LO cs.AIcs.CL

Tingting Yu , Pei-Cing Huang , Chan Hsu , Chan-Tung Ku , Yihuang Kang This is my paper · ORCID
classification cs.LOcs.AIcs.CL
keywords predicateinventioninductivelogicprogramminglargelanguagemodelsILPPrologverificationknowledgereuseabductivegeneration
verification ladder T0 review T1 audit T2 compute T3 formal

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The reading

The paper aims to show that using large language models for abductive generation of predicates, verified by Prolog execution in an iterative loop, solves the predicate invention bottleneck in ILP. This allows automatic creation of meaningful, reusable predicates without requiring domain experts. A sympathetic reader would care because it makes ILP more adaptable to unfamiliar domains and enables knowledge sharing across tasks via a growing pool. Experiments on nine poker-hand concepts demonstrate clear performance lifts from these invented predicates.

What carries the argument

The ADVENT mechanism: an iterative loop of LLM abductive generation of predicates with meaningful names, followed by Prolog deductive verification, with invented predicates and rules stored in a knowledge pool for reuse.

What would settle it

Applying ADVENT to new relational datasets where the generated predicates consistently fail Prolog verification or produce no accuracy gain over baseline ILP would falsify the claim.

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Extended reading notes

Core claim

ADVENT demonstrates that an iterative process of LLM-driven abductive predicate generation and deductive verification in Prolog produces human-interpretable auxiliary predicates. These predicates allow ILP to achieve a 58% success rate on tasks where standard ILP fails completely, rising to 80% with verification, and the accumulating knowledge pool provides additional gains of up to 31 percentage points through cross-task reuse.

Load-bearing premise

Large language models can reliably detect implicit relational patterns in structured data and produce predicates that are both correct and reusable across tasks.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • ILP systems can handle unfamiliar domains without manual predicate definitions supplied by experts.
  • Learned rules gain human interpretability through the use of meaningful predicate names and definitions.
  • Performance on relational tasks improves from complete failure to over half success, and further with accumulated knowledge.
  • Cross-task reuse becomes feasible, yielding measurable gains of up to 31 percentage points on related problems.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The same LLM-plus-verification loop might apply to other symbolic learning settings that require inventing auxiliary relations.
  • Reduced dependence on human experts for predicate design could make ILP viable for a wider range of practical problems.
  • Limits of the approach would become visible through tests on datasets with more complex or noisy relational structure.
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Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The paper introduces ADVENT, an LLM-driven approach to predicate invention (PI) in Inductive Logic Programming (ILP). It combines LLM-based abductive generation of candidate predicates with Prolog-based deductive verification in an iterative loop, using execution feedback to refine predicates, and accumulates named, interpretable predicates in a reusable knowledge pool. Experiments on nine poker-hand concepts across seven LLMs report that ADVENT achieves 58% task success (where standard ILP achieves 0%), 80% with formal verification, and gains of up to +31 percentage points from the knowledge pool.

Significance. If the empirical results are reproducible and the experimental protocol is sound, ADVENT would address a long-standing bottleneck in ILP by automating PI without domain expertise and enabling cross-task reuse of invented predicates. The explicit pairing of abductive LLM generation with deductive verification and the accumulation mechanism are concrete design choices that target reliability and reusability; the production of human-interpretable rules is an additional strength.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract / Experimental results] Abstract and experimental results: the central claims rest on specific performance numbers (58% success, 80% with verification, +31 pp gains) yet the manuscript supplies no experimental details on task encoding, number of positive/negative examples per concept, number of independent runs, statistical tests, variance, exact ILP baseline configuration, or comparison to prior PI methods. This absence prevents verification of whether the reported rates support the claim that LLM-driven PI succeeds where ILP fails.
  2. [Method description (abductive generation step)] The weakest assumption—that LLMs can reliably detect implicit relational patterns in structured data and produce both correct and reusable predicates—is load-bearing for the 58% figure, yet the manuscript provides no ablation isolating the contribution of the LLM generation step versus the verification loop or knowledge-pool reuse.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] The abstract states results across 'seven LLMs' and 'nine poker-hand concepts' but does not list which models or which exact concepts were used; this information should appear in the experimental section for reproducibility.
  2. [Method] Notation for the knowledge pool and the iterative loop is introduced informally; a small diagram or pseudocode would clarify the accumulation and reuse mechanism.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

2 responses · 0 unresolved

We thank the referee for the thoughtful and constructive report. The two major comments identify important gaps in experimental documentation and component analysis. We address each below and commit to revisions that strengthen the manuscript without altering its core claims.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract / Experimental results] Abstract and experimental results: the central claims rest on specific performance numbers (58% success, 80% with verification, +31 pp gains) yet the manuscript supplies no experimental details on task encoding, number of positive/negative examples per concept, number of independent runs, statistical tests, variance, exact ILP baseline configuration, or comparison to prior PI methods. This absence prevents verification of whether the reported rates support the claim that LLM-driven PI succeeds where ILP fails.

    Authors: We agree that the current presentation lacks sufficient experimental protocol details to support independent verification of the reported rates. The manuscript will be revised to include a new subsection in the Experiments section that explicitly documents: (i) the Prolog encoding of each poker-hand concept and background knowledge, (ii) the exact number of positive and negative examples used per concept, (iii) the number of independent runs performed for each LLM, (iv) the statistical tests and variance measures applied, (v) the precise configuration of the ILP baseline (including system name and parameter settings), and (vi) direct comparisons against previously published predicate invention methods. These additions will allow readers to assess whether the 58 % success rate (and the 80 % figure with verification) substantiates the claim that LLM-driven PI succeeds where standard ILP fails. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Method description (abductive generation step)] The weakest assumption—that LLMs can reliably detect implicit relational patterns in structured data and produce both correct and reusable predicates—is load-bearing for the 58% figure, yet the manuscript provides no ablation isolating the contribution of the LLM generation step versus the verification loop or knowledge-pool reuse.

    Authors: We accept that the absence of an ablation study leaves the relative contributions of the LLM generation step, the deductive verification loop, and the knowledge-pool reuse mechanism unclear. In the revised manuscript we will add an ablation subsection that reports three controlled variants: (1) LLM generation without the verification loop, (2) the full loop but without cross-task knowledge-pool reuse, and (3) the complete ADVENT pipeline. Success rates for each variant on the same nine poker-hand concepts will be presented, thereby quantifying the incremental benefit of each component and providing empirical grounding for the assumption that LLMs can detect relational patterns when paired with verification. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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full rationale

The paper describes an empirical LLM+Prolog iterative system for predicate invention, reporting measured success rates (58%, 80%, +31 pp) on nine fixed poker-hand tasks. No equations, derivations, fitted parameters, or first-principles claims appear; performance figures are presented as direct experimental outcomes from the described loop rather than predictions that reduce to the method's own inputs by construction. No self-citation chains, uniqueness theorems, or ansatzes are invoked as load-bearing steps. The work is therefore self-contained against external benchmarks and receives the default non-circularity finding.

Assumptions & free parameters 0 free parameters · 0 assumptions · 1 invented entities

Abstract-only review provides no explicit free parameters, background axioms, or invented entities beyond the high-level description of the knowledge pool; no fitted constants or unstated mathematical assumptions are identifiable from the given text.

invented entities (1)
  • Knowledge pool
    purpose: Accumulate invented predicates and learned rules for cross-task reuse
    Described in the abstract as a component that yields performance gains; no independent evidence supplied.

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Predicate invention (PI), the creation of new predicates to extend the hypothesis space, remains a critical bottleneck in Inductive Logic Programming (ILP). Existing methods rely on domain expertise and produce semantically opaque predicates, hindering adaptation to unfamiliar domains and cross-task reuse. We present ADVENT, an LLM-driven PI mechanism for ILP. ADVENT pairs LLM abductive generation with Prolog deductive verification, forming an iterative loop in which concrete execution results guide the LLM to refine candidate predicates. The mechanism leverages Large Language Models to identify implicit patterns in structured relational data and invent auxiliary predicates with meaningful names and definitions. Invented predicates and learned rules accumulate in a knowledge pool for cross-task reuse. Experiments on nine poker-hand concepts across seven LLMs show that LLM-driven PI achieves 58% success rate where ILP alone fails entirely, formal verification raises this to 80%, and the knowledge pool yields gains up to +31 percentage points, while producing human-interpretable rules. These results suggest that ADVENT offers a promising direction for automating predicate invention and enabling cross-task knowledge reuse in ILP.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2607.01585 by the authors.

Figure 1
Figure 1. Overall pipeline. performance? • RQ3. Can LLM-driven PI support cross-task predicate reuse and composition while preserving interpretability? To address these questions, we present ADVENT, an LLM￾driven PI mechanism that integrates LLM abductive reasoning with Prolog deductive verifier, and combines them with ILP inductive learning. Invented predicates and learned hypotheses accumulate in a knowledge pool, enabling … view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Illustration of formal deductive verification. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p003_2.png] view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Case study comparing formal verification and LLM self-critique on the one pair task. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_3.png] view at source ↗

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