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In controlled comparisons on a real humanoid, including reference joint velocities and a 10-step observation history improves whole-body motion tracking the most, while residual actions, hand-force randomization, and teacher-student trainin
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load-bearing objection Useful controlled ablation, mostly sound, but missing significance tests and a one-run hardware experiment mean the quantitative rankings are not yet settled. the 4 major comments →
What Matters in Humanoid General Motion Tracking? An Empirical Study
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A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
The paper claims that, for humanoid general motion tracking, the representation of the motion command and the presence of a short observation history are the design factors with the clearest and largest tracking effects. Removing the reference joint velocities from the motion command degrades all reported tracking metrics (base errors up by 7–14%, key-body errors by 9%, joint-velocity error by 15%), and removing the history buffer degrades them even more (base errors up by 38–50%, joint-velocity error by 17%). Extending history from 10 to 20 steps gives no consistent benefit. Residual actions (offsets around the reference joint positions instead of a default posture) modestly improve key-bod
What carries the argument
The central mechanism is a controlled one-factor-at-a-time ablation protocol built around a nominal policy configuration, with each variant changing a single design axis. The two design elements that carry the main argument are the motion command, which in the nominal setting contains reference joint positions and velocities plus base and key-body references, and a 10-step observation history buffer that concatenates recent proprioception and command vectors. The comparison is made meaningful by a fixed test set of retargeted motions, identical rewards, and the same control frequency, with success rate as a coarse check (all policies succeed) and tracking-error distributions as the fine-grai
Load-bearing premise
The rankings of design choices rest on the assumption that the 1,024 retargeted test motions, split from the same source datasets and subjects as training, are representative of 'general motion' — if those test motions are too similar in style or subject to the training motions, the relative improvements may not transfer to other motion distributions or other humanoid platforms.
What would settle it
Retraining the nominal policy and the no-history / pos-ref-only variants on a held-out test set assembled from subjects and motion styles completely disjoint from training, and showing that the tracking-error gaps shrink or reverse, would falsify the claim that reference joint velocities and a 10-step history are the design choices that matter most.
If this is right
- Including reference joint velocities in the motion command should become a standard practice in humanoid motion-tracking pipelines, since the history encoder does not fully recover the phase and velocity information they carry.
- A short observation history (around 10 steps) is a robust default: removing it substantially hurts tracking, while going to 20 steps adds little and slightly degrades key-body and joint-space tracking.
- Residual actions provide only a modest improvement in key-body and joint tracking, so their use should be weighed against algorithmic complexity for a given application.
- A mechanics-based selection of PD gains and action scales achieves tracking comparable to stiffer hand-tuned gains while avoiding large torque peaks and, on hardware, reducing oscillation after fast transitions.
- Hand-force randomization during training is valuable specifically for enabling energetic physical interaction with the hands, while leaving free-space tracking performance nearly unaffected.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- Because removing the history buffer hurt base tracking (38–50%) more than removing reference velocities (7–14%), deployers facing input-size constraints on embedded hardware should prioritize keeping the history buffer over the reference velocity channel.
- The fact that all policies achieved 100% success on the test set suggests that success rate alone is a weak discriminator for general motion tracking; error distributions, as used here, reveal distinctions that would otherwise be missed, and similar evaluation practices could improve comparability across future systems.
- The hand-force randomized policy's ability to sustain 6 kg at the hand without a dedicated force controller hints that training-time force randomization could serve as an alternative to impedance-based stiffness tuning for physical interaction, though the paper only demonstrates this for a fixed-arm hold and a single lifting replay.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper proposes YAHMP, an open-source modular framework for training and evaluating whole-body motion tracking policies on the Unitree G1, and uses it to ablate six design axes: motion-command content, observation history length, residual actions, actuation profile, hand-force randomization, and teacher-student training. The nominal policy and its variants are trained with PPO on retargeted AMASS/OMOMO motions (11,151 train / 1,024 test) and evaluated in MuJoCo; TWIST2 is retrained on the same set as an external baseline. Hardware deployment tests zero-shot tracking, balance under perturbation, hand-load capacity, and actuation-profile effects. The main stated findings are that reference joint velocities and a 10-step history improve tracking; residual actions and teacher-student training give modest or mixed changes; a mechanics-based actuation profile limits torque peaks; and hand-force randomization mainly improves interaction capability rather than free-space tracking.
Significance. If the findings are statistically robust, this is a practically useful study for a field where ablations are usually tied to a specific pipeline and individual design choices are hard to isolate. The controlled one-variable-at-a-time protocol, identical reward and evaluation across variants, the retrained external TWIST2 baseline, the open-source implementation, and the zero-shot hardware deployment are genuine strengths. The fixed 1,024-motion test set and the stated pre-registration-like split procedure also support reproducibility. However, the quantitative ranking of choices is not yet established at the level claimed because most effect sizes are small and are reported without confidence intervals, significance tests, or per-seed values. The hardware hand-load result, which carries the paper's strongest interaction claim, is based on a single execution per policy.
major comments (4)
- [§III-A, Table II] The headline claims that reference joint velocity and history improve tracking are supported by consistent relative changes across several metrics, but Table II gives no significance tests, confidence intervals, or per-seed values. Several decisive magnitudes are small (4–8%), e.g., No residual key-body pos +5%, History-20 base pos -6%, Hand-force rand. +4%, and all relative changes are computed against a single nominal run. The text says an extra seed gave consistent trends but does not report those numbers. Please report per-seed errors, paired 95% bootstrap intervals across the 1,024 test motions, and a statement on whether each effect replicates across seeds. Without this, the ranking of choices cannot be distinguished from seed-to-seed noise.
- [§IV-B, Table IV] The central claim that hand-force randomization mainly improves interaction capability rests on one controlled execution per policy. Loads were increased until the arm no longer reached a steady hold; this stopping criterion is subjective, load order was not randomized, and no repeated trials or automated measurements are reported. At 1 kg the difference is 3.2 vs 1.5 degrees, and at 2 kg 8.3 vs 3.0 degrees, which could plausibly be run-to-run variation. Please provide multiple executions per policy and load, randomized load order, an objective steady-hold criterion, and per-trial data with error bars. Alternatively, the claim should be explicitly downgraded to a qualitative demonstration.
- [§II-H and §V] The test set is held out from the same filtered AMASS/OMOMO collection, and Section II-H explicitly allows train and test motions to originate from the same source datasets and subjects. The ranking of design choices may therefore be specific to this in-distribution setting, which is narrower than the 'general motion tracking' claimed in the abstract and introduction. The conclusion's caveat about one robot platform is good, but it does not address dataset/subject overlap. Please add a cross-dataset or held-out-subject evaluation (e.g., whole subjects or datasets excluded from training), or explicitly restrict the conclusions to within-distribution ranking on the Unitree G1.
- [§III-B, Table II] The TWIST2 comparison is based on a single retrained run, and the results are mixed: TWIST2 achieves the lowest key-body position error (-10%) but much higher joint-velocity error (+81%). With no repeated seeds or confidence intervals, the comparison does not support strong statements about which complete pipeline is better under the common protocol. At minimum, provide bootstrap intervals across motions and, ideally, multiple training seeds for both pipelines, or soften the comparative conclusion accordingly.
minor comments (4)
- [§IV-B, Table VII] The hardware hand-load test reaches 5–6 kg, which exceeds the 20 N cap used for hand-force randomization in Table VII. Please clarify whether this is intentional extrapolation and how the force is transmitted through the arm during the hold.
- [§II-H] The statement that the test split was fixed before running ablations is good practice. For full reproducibility, please include the exact dataset snapshot and retargeting version used, so that the claim is verifiable.
- [Figure 2] The caption says outliers are hidden, but the display rule is not stated. Please indicate that points beyond the 1.5-IQR whiskers are not plotted and specify the size of the random subset shown as translucent points.
- [Table I] The names 'Pos-ref-only' and 'No residual' are defined in the text but Table I alone is ambiguous. A short parenthetical definition in the table caption would help readers who skim the table.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity: the paper is a controlled empirical ablation with an external retrained baseline, not a derivation that reduces to its own inputs.
full rationale
The paper's central claims are empirical comparisons among policy variants within a common framework, evaluated on a held-out test set of 1,024 retargeted motions. The variant definitions (motion command with/without reference joint velocities, history length, residual actions, actuation profile, hand-force randomization, teacher-student training) are substantive design choices; none of the reported metrics is constructed from the fitted parameters of the model being evaluated. The external baseline TWIST2 is retrained from its original code on the same training set and evaluated with the same metrics, providing an independent comparison point rather than a self-citation. Self-citations appear only in the future-work section ([19], [20]) and are not load-bearing for any empirical claim. The 'mechanics-based' actuation profile follows BeyondMimic and the residual-action choice follows ResMimic, but these are external prior works and the paper explicitly tests rather than assumes their benefit. The closest concern to circularity would be that the training reward and evaluation metrics both include joint-velocity tracking, but that is a shared objective across all variants and does not by construction favor one variant over another; the ablation result is an empirical finding. The lack of confidence intervals and the single hardware trial per policy are important rigor limitations, but they concern statistical evidence and experimental control, not definitional or self-citational circularity. Under the required standard of quoting a specific reduction from equations or a load-bearing self-citation, no circular step is present.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
free parameters (6)
- Actuation bandwidth and damping (ω0 = 2π·10 rad/s, ζ=2) =
ω0=62.8 rad/s, ζ=2
- History buffer length H=10 =
10
- Hand-force randomization ranges (cap 20 N, Table VII) =
max 20 N
- Action-scale factor 0.25 in Eq. 8 =
0.25
- Reward weights and stds (Table VIII) =
listed in Table VIII
- PPO hyperparameters (learning rate, entropy, policy std) =
lr 1e-3, entropy 0.005, std 1.0
axioms (6)
- domain assumption MuJoCo with 0.005 s timestep and 50 Hz control faithfully models Unitree G1 dynamics for sim-to-real transfer
- domain assumption Retargeted AMASS/OMOMO motions are representative of 'general human motion' for training and evaluation
- domain assumption The train/test split's same-subject overlap does not materially inflate performance
- domain assumption PPO finds near-optimal policies for each variant given the shared reward
- standard math PD low-level tracking (Eq. 6) with zero desired velocity is an adequate actuation model
- domain assumption Hand-force randomization forces approximate real interaction loads
read the original abstract
Humanoid general motion tracking requires policies that can follow diverse whole-body references while maintaining balance. Building such policies involves many practical design choices, and their individual effects are often hard to assess. We address this issue with an empirical study of common modeling and training factors used in recent humanoid motion-imitation pipelines. To make the study controlled and reproducible, we developed YAHMP, an open-source modular framework for training, evaluating, and deploying whole-body motion tracking policies on the Unitree G1. Within YAHMP, we define a nominal configuration and compare variants that differ in motion-command representation, observation history, action representation, actuation profile, hand-force randomization during training, and training approach. We evaluate the resulting policies on a test set of retargeted human motions and compare the nominal policy with TWIST2 as an external baseline trained on the same motion set. The results distinguish choices with clear tracking effects from choices that mainly change actuation effort, training complexity, or physical interaction capability. Finally, we deploy YAHMP policies zero-shot on the real Unitree G1, demonstrating diverse whole-body motion tracking, balance under external perturbations, and forceful interaction.
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