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Bitstring probabilities for Rydberg ladder vacua collapse onto a Fermi-like curve, and the shots needed to tame low-probability states grow exponentially with atom number.

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load-bearing objection Useful empirical shot-budget diagnostic for Rydberg-ladder vacua; Fermi collapse is a fit, not a law, and the device-scale extrapolations ride on binning-sensitive slopes. the 3 major comments →

arxiv 2607.27013 v1 pith:3EPXLQZX submitted 2026-07-29 quant-ph hep-lat

Finite size scaling of bitstring probability distributions for Rydberg arrays

Zane Ozzello , Avi Kaufman , Yannick Meurice This is my paper
classification quant-ph hep-lat
keywords Rydberg arraysbitstring probabilitiescumulative probability distributionfinite-size scalingshot complexityFermi-Dirac collapsequantum simulationmatrix-product states
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This paper studies the full dictionary of bitstring probabilities that make up the ground state of Rydberg-atom ladders as the number of atoms grows. Individual probabilities shrink, but they pack more densely into the low-probability tail, so their collective weight might still matter. The authors capture that weight with a cumulative distribution Σ: the total probability of every bitstring rarer than a chosen cutoff. In the middle of the distribution the curves for successive sizes can be rescaled onto roughly one Fermi function of minus the log of the cutoff. From that collapse they read off that the number of experimental shots required to drive the neglected tail below a fixed error grows exponentially with system size. The practical payoff is a finite-size scaling rule that lets shot budgets for large vacuum simulations be estimated from smaller, cheaper ones.

Core claim

For the vacuum of Rydberg ladders the cumulative probability Σ(p_Λ, N_q) of all bitstrings with probability at most p_Λ can be approximately collapsed, for moderate p_Λ, onto a single Fermi-Dirac-like function of −ln(p_Λ). Both the largest single probability and the cutoff at which Σ reaches one-half decay exponentially with atom number N_q, so the number of shots needed to keep the unresolved tail below a chosen accuracy likewise grows exponentially with N_q.

What carries the argument

The cumulative probability distribution Σ(p_Λ, N_q) = sum of all p_{n} ≤ p_Λ. It converts the raw bitstring histogram into a single curve whose mid-region collapse and inflection-point scaling supply the finite-size shot-cost law.

Load-bearing premise

The exponential scalings and Fermi-like collapse fitted on ladders of at most a few dozen atoms with a billion DMRG samples continue to hold when extrapolated to the sixty-to-one-hundred-twenty qubit regime.

What would settle it

Compute or measure Σ(p_Λ) for a Rydberg ladder larger than those already studied (for example 60 atoms) at the same blockade ratio; if the mid-region no longer collapses onto the same Fermi form or if the half-probability cutoff fails to follow the reported exponential, the scaling claim is false.

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If this is right

  • Shot budgets required to keep vacuum observables accurate can be read off from the exponential fit of p* versus N_q rather than guessed.
  • The same collapse supplies a practical error bar: choose the desired tail weight Σ = z and read the minimal shots as 1/p_Λ(z).
  • Region-I maximal probabilities already limit useful system size to roughly 120 qubits at a billion shots; Region-II half-filling tightens that to roughly 60 qubits.
  • Because the exponential grows slower than the Hilbert-space dimension 2^{N_q}, larger devices remain usable if shots are allocated intelligently.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • If the Fermi collapse is not an artifact of the Rydberg blockade, the same mid-region scaling may appear in other gapped lattice models whose ground-state bitstring spectra are similarly sparse.
  • The documented sensitivity of the slope β to binning suggests that an exact, unbinned definition of Σ would tighten the extrapolated qubit limits.
  • Observables that are dominated by the highest-probability bitstrings may still be accessible beyond the 60-qubit half-filling limit, while observables sensitive to the tail will hit the wall earlier.

Editorial analysis

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Desk editor's note, referee report, simulated authors' rebuttal, and a circularity audit.

Referee Report

3 major / 5 minor

Summary. The paper studies bitstring probability distributions of the ground state (vacuum) of Rydberg atom ladders obtained from large DMRG/MPS sampling (10^9 shots). It introduces the cumulative distribution Σ(p_Λ,N_q), the total probability mass on bitstrings with p≤p_Λ, and reports that for intermediate p_Λ the curves for successive system sizes N_q can be approximately collapsed onto a single Fermi–Dirac-like function of −ln(p_Λ). From exponential fits of p_max, p*_1/2 and related anchors versus N_q (up to ~44 atoms at fixed ρ=2, R_b/a=2.00), the authors conclude that the number of shots needed to drive Σ below a fixed small threshold grows exponentially with N_q, with rough extrapolations to ~60–120 qubits, and discuss implications for vacuum observables.

Significance. If the mid-region collapse and the exponential shot-cost scaling hold beyond the fitted window, the work would give a practical, system-size-aware diagnostic for how many measurements are required to control the low-probability tail when estimating vacuum observables on Rydberg simulators—an issue of direct interest for analog quantum simulation of many-body and lattice-gauge models. Strengths include the concrete construction of large bitstring dictionaries from DMRG, the clear empirical collapse of Σ in the mid-probability window (Figs. 1–2), and the explicit connection of cumulative mass to shot budgets. The Fermi identification and the device-scale extrapolations are, however, phenomenological fits rather than derived scaling laws, so the significance is that of a useful empirical organizing principle whose range of validity still needs to be delimited.

major comments (3)
  1. [Region II, Eqs. (3)–(4); Appendix; Fig. 4] Abstract, Region II (Eqs. 3–4) and Conclusion: the central claim that Σ collapses onto a Fermi function of −ln(p_Λ) and that the shot number needed to reduce Σ to a fixed small value grows exponentially with N_q rests on two-parameter phenomenological fits. The Appendix (“Dependence of Parameter Fitting”) and Figs. 8–9 document that the slope β (and the Region-III exponent B) vary substantially with histogram binning and fit-window choice. Because the same β and the fitted anchors p*, p*_1/2, p*_0.01 are used both to collapse the curves and to produce the exponential extrapolations in Fig. 4 (~60–120 qubits), the load-bearing shot-cost statement inherits that variance. The manuscript should either (i) adopt an exact (unbinned) cumulative construction and report error bands on β and on the extrapolated N_q, or (ii) clearly demote the Fermi form and the 60–120-qubit numbers to illustrative
  2. [Region III–IV; Fig. 4; Conclusion] All quantitative results are obtained at a single Hamiltonian point (ρ=2, R_b/a=2.00) for ladders up to ~44 atoms, with Region III/IV explicitly truncated by the 10^9-shot floor (text around Figs. 5–7). The exponential persistence of p_max, p*_1/2 and p*_0.01 outside this window, and the claim that the same collapse governs the low-p tail that dominates shot cost, are therefore uncontrolled extrapolations. At minimum the paper should test one additional detuning/blockade point or geometry, and/or push the single-occurrence floor with a substantially larger shot budget on a subset of sizes, so that the device-scale statement is not read off a single finite-shot fit.
  3. [Region III, Eqs. (5)–(6)] Region III (Eq. 5) and the comparison (Eq. 6) treat the power-law form and the Fermi form as interchangeable via B≃β and A≃(p*)^{-β}. Given the documented binning dependence of both exponents, this identification is not robust enough to underwrite the error-estimate procedure advocated in the text (Σ=z as a shot-budget proxy). Either the equivalence should be dropped or it should be replaced by a binning-independent statement (e.g., direct interpolation of the empirical Σ without parametric collapse).
minor comments (5)
  1. [Eq. (2); Abstract] Notation for the cumulative is inconsistent: Σ(p_Λ) in Eq. (2) versus Σ(p_Λ,N_q) in the abstract and later text; fix one form throughout.
  2. [Figure 1] Figure 1 caption and main text refer to “4 rungs to 22 rungs” while elsewhere sizes are given in atoms (20–44); state N_q explicitly in every figure caption.
  3. [Introduction / Hamiltonian] The Hamiltonian parameters Ω and Δ used for the DMRG ground states are never stated numerically; a short table or sentence would make the dictionaries reproducible.
  4. [Region I–II] Typos and wording: “these large are due to” (Region I); “Taking −ln(p_Λ)→ϵ and →−ln(p*)→μ” is missing the left-hand variable; “ap ∗” spacing; “finitely discrete states” is unclear.
  5. [Introduction] Self-citations [8,21] supply related diagnostics; a brief sentence distinguishing the new Σ collapse from those earlier filtered-probability tools would help the reader.

Circularity Check

2 steps flagged

Empirical DMRG fits and constructed collapse; mild reuse of fitted p*/β as scaling predictors, not definitional circularity.

specific steps
  1. fitted input called prediction [Region II, Eqs. (3)–(4), Fig. 4; Conclusion]
    "Σ(p_Λ)≃ (p_Λ/p*)^β/(1+(p_Λ/p*)^β). Taking −ln(p_Λ)→ϵ and −ln(p*)→μ the cumulative probability distributions can be well-approximated by Fermi-Dirac... We show that the number of shots necessary to reduce Σ(p_Λ,N_q) to some low enough value grows exponentially with N_q."

    p* and β are fitted per N_q to the mid-region of Σ; the collapse and the Fermi resemblance are then presented as structural findings, and the exponential shot-cost claim is the same exponential fit of those p* values (Fig. 4) restated as N_sh∼1/p*. The prediction is statistically forced by the fit rather than independently derived. Content remains empirical (new DMRG dictionaries), so this is mild, not definitional.

  2. self definitional [COLLAPSE OF Σ; Fig. 2 construction]
    "The distributions of different system sizes will collapse by taking p_Λ to (p_Λ/p*)^B where B is the slope of the line fit to each individual distribution and then plotting the distributions against this adjusted independent variable."

    The collapse coordinate is defined from the same per-curve p* and fitted slope B that characterize each Σ. Any family of similar sigmoids will overlie under that rescaling by construction; the residual empirical claim is only that shapes (β) are similar enough across N_q. Partial self-definition of the collapse, not of the underlying Σ data.

full rationale

The paper’s load-bearing content is new numerical sampling: bitstring dictionaries from DMRG/MPS (10^9 shots) on Rydberg ladders, from which Σ(p_Λ,N_q) is computed directly. The mid-region Fermi-like form (Eqs. 3–4), the collapse via per-curve p* and β, and the exponential fits of p_max and p*_1/2 vs N_q (Fig. 4) are empirical observations and extrapolations, not algebraic rewrites of prior equations into themselves. Self-citations ([8], [21]) supply related diagnostics and motivation; they do not force the scaling claims. Mild circularity appears only in the usual fit-then-read-off sense: the same fitted p* and slope used to construct the collapse are then cited as evidence of universal Fermi behavior and of exponential shot cost (N_sh ∼ 1/p*). That is proportionate to score 2, not a self-definitional or self-citation chain. No uniqueness theorem, smuggled ansatz, or renaming of a known closed-form result is load-bearing.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

6 free parameters · 5 axioms · 2 invented entities

The load-bearing content is empirical scaling from DMRG bitstring samples plus phenomenological fits. Standard quantum-many-body and Rydberg modeling are inherited; the Fermi identification, region boundaries, and extrapolated qubit limits rest on fitted slopes and cutoffs chosen on the same curves used to advertise universality.

free parameters (6)
  • Fermi slope β (and collapse exponent B) = O(1), system- and protocol-dependent (Figs. 8–9)
    Fitted per system size in Region II/III; used both to collapse curves and to argue universal Fermi form. Appendix shows strong dependence on binning and fit range.
  • Anchor probabilities p*, p*_1/2, p*_0.01 = read off per N_q from Σ curves
    Chosen cumulative anchors (Σ=1/2 or 0.01) that define horizontal shifts for collapse and the exponential scaling plots in Fig. 4.
  • Power-law prefactor A and exponent B in Region III
    Σ ≃ A p_Λ^B fitted on log-log low-Σ region; compared to Fermi parameters via A ≃ (p*)^{-β}.
  • Histogram binning and fit-window size = e.g. 300 bins, ±20 points (appendix)
    Explicit tunable choices shown in the appendix to move β and B by large relative amounts; not fixed by theory.
  • Sampling shot budget N_sh = 10^9 = 10^9
    Hard floor p≥10^{-9} that defines Region IV and truncates Region III; enters all shot-limit extrapolations.
  • Rydberg ladder parameters (ρ=2, R_b/a=2.00, Ω, Δ implied) = ρ=2, R_b/a=2.00
    Single point in the phase diagram; all scaling claims are for this choice only.
axioms (5)
  • domain assumption DMRG/MPS ground states and 10^9 samples faithfully represent the true bitstring probability distribution down to p~10^{-9} for the studied sizes.
    Entire Σ analysis and single-occurrence counts rest on this; no bond-dimension or sampler-bias checks are reported.
  • domain assumption The Rydberg Hamiltonian (Eq. 1) with van der Waals 1/r^6 interactions on a two-leg ladder is the correct microscopic model for the vacuum under study.
    Standard in the field; invoked from the Introduction onward.
  • ad hoc to paper Mid-region Σ(p_Λ) is well approximated by a two-parameter Fermi–Dirac function of −ln(p_Λ).
    Stated as resemblance/fit (Eqs. 3–4), not derived from a fermionic mapping or maximum-entropy theorem in the text.
  • ad hoc to paper Exponential fits of p_max, p*_1/2, and p*_0.01 versus N_q continue outside the fitted window to ~60–120 qubits.
    Used in Region I–III discussions to quote device-scale shot limits; no finite-size correction theory is given.
  • domain assumption Cumulative probability Σ is the right figure of merit for vacuum observable error from unsampled bitstrings.
    Motivated in the Introduction and Conclusion; observables are not explicitly recomputed with truncated vs full support to validate the proxy.
invented entities (2)
  • Four phenomenological regions (I–IV) of Σ no independent evidence
    purpose: Organize high-p steps, linear/Fermi mid-region, log-log low-p region, and single-occurrence sampling floor.
    Descriptive partition of the same curves; boundaries depend on N_q and N_sh rather than a derived scale.
  • Identification of collapsed Σ with a Fermi–Dirac distribution in ε=−ln(p) no independent evidence
    purpose: Provide a parent functional form for collapse and for reading half-filling p*_1/2.
    Analogical fit only; no independent fermionic degrees of freedom or thermal ensemble is constructed.

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We calculate the probabilities $p_{\{n\}}$ of the measured bitstrings $\{n\}$ for the vacuum of Rydberg ladders with $N_q$ atoms. As $N_q$ increases, the $p_{\{n\}}$ decrease but become more dense in the low $p$ region raising the possibility that their smallness could be compensated by their large number. The importance of the low probability states can be estimated from the cumulative probability distribution $\Sigma(p_{\Lambda},N_q)$, which is the probability to observe any state having a probability $p\leq p_{\Lambda}$. For not too large values of $p_{\Lambda}$, it is possible to approximately collapse the $\Sigma(p_{\Lambda},N_q)$ for successive $N_q$ into a function resembling the Fermi function when plotted as a function of $-\ln(p_{\Lambda})$. We show that the number of shots necessary to reduce $\Sigma(p_{\Lambda},N_q)$ to some low enough value grows exponentially with $N_q$. We discuss the implications for calculating observables associated with the vacuum.

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Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2607.27013 by Avi Kaufman, Yannick Meurice, Zane Ozzello.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: Cumulative distributions across different [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p002_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: Collapsed cumulative distributions with four [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p002_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: Cumulative distributions across different [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p003_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: pmax and p ∗ scaling tal. For our discussion here, we are working with one bil￾lion DMRG sampling shots, so based on the predicted fit the maximal system size that could be simulated would approach 120 qubits, which still matches the limits of accessible quantum devices. Region II In Region II, the cumulative distribution becomes much smoother and more well-behaved. This is the area utilized to get the cur… view at source ↗
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Figure 5. Figure 5: Region III, log-log plotted cumulative distributions [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_5.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 6. Figure 6: Collapse based on Region III; p ∗ 0.01. While the collapse is clean, the rescaling of the distri￾butions is not as forgiving. The larger system size dis￾tributions are dramatically rescaled to align on a single curve. This is unsurprising given how the different cu￾mulative distributions fall with respect to each other in [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_6.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 7. Figure 7: Single Occurrence states with system size [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_7.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 8. Figure 8: Above: Fixing the fit region to +/- 20 points [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p008_8.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 9. Figure 9: Above: Fixing the fit region to +/- 20 points [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p009_9.png] view at source ↗

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