REVIEW 4 major objections 5 minor 20 references
From Struggle (06-2024) to Mastery (02-2025) LLMs Conquer Advanced Algorithm Exams and Pave the Way for Editorial Generation
T0 review · 4 major / 5 minor · reviewed 2026-08-07 · deepseek-v4-flash
Pith's one-line read The newest large language models score at the level of top students on a challenging university algorithms exam, with o3-mini reaching the 98th percentile and the top 3% of the class.
desk verdict Useful dataset and a plausible trend, but the unspecified graph-input protocol and inconsistent numbers undercut the top-5% claim. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The load-bearing apparatus is the one-shot exam interaction: each model receives the entire 11-problem exam in a single prompt through a vendor user interface with default settings, and the course instructor grades the response with the same rubric used for students. Percentile placement within the real student grade distribution, grouped by model release date, is what converts raw scores into the 'top 3%' and 'top 15%' claims. Consistency is quantified by the standard deviation of final grades over five independent runs, and collaboration is tested by feeding each model either its own previous answers (RunAvg) or the answers of three other models (RunAvgAll). The release-date split (models released within the last four months vs. older) is the paper's main explanatory axis for score differences.
What would settle it
Inspect the recorded sessions or rerun the exam with controlled inputs, giving o3-mini and Gemini 2.0 Flash the same 11 problems with the graph sent as an image, as adjacency lists, and omitted entirely; if per-problem scores on the visual tasks do not differ across conditions, the paper's visual-analysis explanation is wrong, and if the figure was never sent in the original runs, the student-percentile comparison is not measuring the same task.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
The paper's claim is that LLM capability on hard algorithmic exams has improved so sharply with recent releases that the best models are no longer below-average test takers but top-quartile or top-decile performers: in the authors' evaluation, o3-mini averages 86.60 points (98th student percentile), o3-mini-high 84.00 (97th), and Gemini 2.0 Flash 72.30 (88th), while GPT-4 Legacy, Qwen2.5Max and others score below 40 and rank in the bottom half. The same exam given in Romanian and English shows that recent models have near-balanced multilingual performance, whereas older models gain as much as 27.5 points when the exam is in English. The authors also claim that the strongest models are consistent across repeated runs (standard deviation around 2.4–2.7 points) and that feeding a model the solutions of other models can substantially lift weaker solvers. On graph questions that require visual reasoning, however, most models still fail, which the authors attribute to limited multimodal interpretation.
Load-bearing premise
The whole top-percentile conclusion assumes every model received the same exam content, including the graph figure that Problems 1–6 rely on, but the paper never says whether the figure was actually shown to them.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- If the central claim holds, advanced algorithm courses using similar exams should expect top LLMs to score at or above the level of most enrolled students in a one-shot setting.
- The low standard deviation of the best models (SD about 2.4 to 2.7 points) means their performance is reproducible enough to be used in grading support, not a lucky outlier.
- The multilingual result implies recent models can serve non-English-speaking classrooms on technical content without the strong English bias of older systems.
- The RunAvgAll result suggests that exposing a weaker model to stronger models' solutions can raise its score by 12 to 15 points, a cheap way to improve tutoring tools.
- Visual graph-reading tasks remain a boundary: until models can reliably interpret a graph drawing, fully automatic grading of such exams is not on the table.
Reading between the lines
- The paper never states whether the graph figure was sent to the models, so the visual-task conclusions are only as strong as that implicit assumption; if the drawing was omitted for text-only models, the student-percentile comparison would not be apples-to-apples.
- A direct testable extension is to re-run a subset of the models with the graph supplied as an image versus as an adjacency list; if scores on Problems 1–3 converge, the visual-analysis story would need revision.
- If the trend in the release-date plot continues, within a year even mid-tier open-weight models may pass this exam at a passing level, which would change how take-home algorithm assessments are designed.
- The RunAvgAll gains suggest a practical ensemble strategy for educational tools: route a student's attempt to multiple models and present the best joint answer, which the paper did not itself test as a student-facing feature.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper evaluates a range of LLMs on a university-level advanced-algorithms exam originally written in Romanian, using one-shot interactions through vendor UIs and a separately translated English version. It reports that newer models, particularly o3-mini and Gemini 2.0 Flash, score at or above the top percentiles of the student grade distribution; it also presents consistency measurements across repeated runs, a small collaboration experiment, a multilingual comparison, and a prototype platform for generating grading schemes and editorial feedback. The main empirical claim is that recent models have crossed a threshold where they perform on par with top students on this exam, while graph-based and visually presented tasks remain weak.
Significance. If the headline result is methodologically sound, the paper would provide a useful, timely benchmark for LLM progress on complex algorithmic reasoning, and the released exam dataset in Romanian is a valuable low-resource contribution. The instructor-scored evaluation and the one-shot exam protocol are appropriate choices for an out-of-the-box usage scenario, and the consistency and collaboration experiments, although small, are creative extensions. However, the central 'top 5%' and 'top 3%' claims rest on an assumption—that all models received the same exam input, including the graph figure—that is not documented. Because several evaluated models are accessed through text-only interfaces and the paper's own future-work section calls for multimodal capabilities, the current procedure likely did not provide the graph image to all models. This makes the student-vs-LLM comparison and the visual-analysis interpretation of per-problem failures unverifiable without additional details or a rerun.
major comments (4)
- [Section 3.1, Section 3.6, Appendix A] The exact input protocol for graph-based problems is never specified. Problems 1–6 and Problem 8 require a graph drawing or network, and the paper does not state whether each model received the figure from Figure 6 as an image, an adjacency list, a textual description, or no graph at all. This matters because the comparison in Table 4 and the percentile claims in Table 3 assume students and LLMs solved the same exam. If text-only models such as DeepSeekR1, Llama3.3-70B, and Mixtral-8x22B did not receive an image, their low scores on Problems 1 and 3 may reflect an under-specified task rather than a failure of 'visual analysis' as claimed in Section 3.6. The paper's own Section 6 lists multimodal interpretation as future work, which further suggests the current pipeline was not multimodal. Please specify, per model and per problem, exactly how Figure 6 and the Problem 8 network were supplied, and if the image was omitted for any model, rerun the affected conditions with a consistent textual encoding (and, where applicable, the actual image) so that the equivalence with the student exam is supported.
- [Section 3.5, Table 3, Figure 2] The percentile comparison lacks necessary statistical grounding. The student cohort size is not reported, nor are the distribution moments or confidence intervals for the percentiles. The table treats each LLM grade as a fixed point, although many models were apparently run once, so the difference between the 97th and 98th percentile for o3-mini is not meaningful without an interval. The additional statement that o3-mini is 'likely top 1% nationwide' is an extrapolation beyond the data presented and should be removed or supported with the relevant national statistics.
- [Sections 3.1, 3.3, 3.4, Tables 1 and 2] Most of the headline scores in Table 3 come from a single run, and the consistency and collaboration experiments use very small samples: three models with five runs each in Section 3.3, and one run per cell in Section 3.4. This is sufficient to show directional evidence, but not to support the strength of the conclusions drawn, such as a strong correlation between consistency and performance or the claim that collaboration reliably improves weaker models. Please report the number of runs used for each number in Table 3, add repeated runs for at least the models whose percentiles are being highlighted, and present ranges or standard deviations for the collaborative results.
- [Section 3.7, Table 5] The grouping of models into Group A and Group B by a cutoff of 'after 09-2024' is arbitrary, and the conclusion that Group A shows a 'statistically unimportant difference' is not backed by any statistical test. With six models in Group B and twelve in Group A, plus heterogeneous models within each group, the aggregate deltas should be interpreted descriptively rather than as a demonstrated trend in multilingual ability. Please either add an appropriate test (e.g., a permutation test on the deltas) or soften the language to avoid implying a conclusion not supported by the sample.
minor comments (5)
- [Section 3.1] The paper says models are selected 'from the ChatBot Arena LLM Leaderboard' but the selection criteria beyond 'a few from each family' are not given; a sentence on inclusion criteria (e.g., popularity, accessibility, recency) would help reproducibility.
- [Section 3.2, Figure 1] The recency cutoff of 'four months' is used to define the two groups in Figure 1, while the introduction refers to 'older than six months'; please align these definitions and state why the particular cutoff was chosen.
- [Table 3] The model name '4o' appears without the 'GPT-' prefix, unlike the naming convention used elsewhere for GPT-4 Legacy; please make the naming uniform.
- [Section 3.3, Table 1] The standard deviation alone is a reasonable consistency measure, but reporting the full set of five run scores for each model would make the 'black swan' run for Sonnet 3.5 more transparent and would let readers assess skew as well as spread.
- [Section 4.2] The platform section describes prompt engineering that adds 'on average 2000 additional characters' to requests, but no example of the final prompt is included; adding the template would materially improve the reproducibility of the editorial-generation part.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity: the paper is an empirical benchmark with non-load-bearing self-citations, not a derivation that reduces to its own inputs.
full rationale
This paper is an empirical evaluation study rather than a derivation chain. The central claims—that newer LLMs such as o3-mini and Gemini 2.0 Flash score in the top percentiles of the student distribution—are direct measurements: LLM responses were scored by the course instructor and compared with the student grade distribution. No parameter is fitted to the data and then renamed as a prediction, and no target quantity is defined in terms of another quantity it is supposed to predict. The self-citations [3], [4], and [5] point respectively to the authors' prior competitive-programming study, the released exam dataset, and the grading-scheme repository; none of these is used to justify the central claim or to rule out alternatives. The exam statement is reproduced in Appendix A, and the per-model and per-problem scores are reported in Tables 3–5, making the evaluation externally checkable. The paper's main weakness—the unspecified way the graph figure for Problems 1–6 was presented to text-only models—is an experimental-validity concern about whether LLMs and students solved the same task, not a circularity: it does not make the reported scores equivalent to the input by construction. There are no equations that reduce to themselves, no fitted inputs renamed as predictions, and no load-bearing uniqueness theorems imported from the authors' prior work. The empirical results stand independently of the self-citations, so the circularity score is 0.
Assumptions & free parameters
free parameters (2)
- Recency cutoff for Fig. 1 =
four months
- Group A/B cutoff for Table 5 =
09-2024
assumptions (3)
- domain assumption Instructor grading of LLM outputs is consistent and unbiased relative to student grading.
- domain assumption LLMs did not encounter the exam during pretraining.
- domain assumption User-interface runs with default settings are comparable across models and versions.
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read the original abstract
This paper presents a comprehensive evaluation of the performance of state-of-the-art Large Language Models (LLMs) on challenging university-level algorithms exams. By testing multiple models on both a Romanian exam and its high-quality English translation, we analyze LLMs' problem-solving capabilities, consistency, and multilingual performance. Our empirical study reveals that the most recent models not only achieve scores comparable to top-performing students but also demonstrate robust reasoning skills on complex, multi-step algorithmic challenges, even though difficulties remain with graph-based tasks. Building on these findings, we explore the potential of LLMs to support educational environments through the generation of high-quality editorial content, offering instructors a powerful tool to enhance student feedback. The insights and best practices discussed herein pave the way for further integration of generative AI in advanced algorithm education.
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