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Teochew-Wild: The First In-the-wild Teochew Dataset with Orthographic Annotations

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Pith's one-line read This paper constructs the first publicly available Teochew speech corpus with accurate orthographic and pinyin annotations and reports ASR and TTS experiments that support its usefulness.

desk verdict A genuinely useful first resource for a low-resource dialect, whose central 'accurate annotations' claim needs independent validation before you can lean on it. read the letter →

arxiv 2505.05056 v1 pith:6FOHAJI2 submitted 2025-05-08 cs.CL cs.AI

Linrong Pan , Chenglong Jiang , Gaoze Hou , Ying Gao This is my paper · ORCID
classification cs.CLcs.AI
keywords Teochewdialectspeechcorpuslow-resourceASRtext-to-speechorthographicannotationpinyintonesandhigrapheme-to-phoneme
verification ladder T0 review T1 audit T2 compute T3 formal

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The reading

Teochew-Wild supplies 18.9 hours of real-world Teochew speech from 20 speakers, with each utterance annotated in Chinese characters and Teochew pinyin. The paper's central claim is that this is the first publicly available Teochew corpus with accurate orthographic annotations, and that it is usable for both automatic speech recognition and text-to-speech. Native-speaker listening tests give synthesized speech a mean opinion score of roughly 3.2 to 3.5, and recognition experiments reach about 10 percent character error with a fine-tuned large model, suggesting that a previously unserved dialect spoken by roughly 30 million people can now be tackled by standard speech toolkits. The surrounding text-processing tools, including polyphone disambiguation, Mandarin-to-Teochew vocabulary mapping, and grapheme-to-phoneme conversion, address the missing front end for Teochew speech synthesis.

What carries the argument

The central mechanism is the dual annotation scheme: each utterance is first transcribed into semantically equivalent Mandarin, then mapped to Teochew orthography and Teochew pinyin with a rule-based front end that includes a grapheme-to-phoneme lexicon, a 10,000-plus-word polyphone disambiguation lexicon, and a 1,500-entry Mandarin-to-Teochew dialect mapping. Where a Teochew pronunciation has no standard Chinese character, the annotators select rarely used characters and assign them new pronunciations and meanings. This gives every utterance a consistent character-to-sound target, which is what allows the same corpus to drive character-based ASR, pinyin-based ASR, and TTS.

What would settle it

Have an independent Teochew linguist re-annotate a random one-hour subset of the same audio with the same segmentation, then compute character- and pinyin-level agreement with the released annotations; agreement below roughly 90 percent on pinyin tones would show the ground truth is not reproducible, and the reported error rates would not be a trustworthy measure of the corpus's usefulness.

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Core claim

The paper constructs Teochew-Wild, an 18.9-hour, 20-speaker, 12,500-utterance corpus of in-the-wild Teochew speech, annotated with both Chinese characters and Teochew pinyin. It reports that TTS models trained on the corpus receive mean opinion scores of 3.52 (Tacotron2) and 3.22 (FastSpeech2), and that ASR models reach a 16.88 percent word error rate on pinyin annotations and a 10.01 percent character error rate with a fine-tuned large model, arguing the corpus works for both tasks. The paper also claims this is the first publicly available Teochew dataset with accurate orthographic annotations, and it supplements the Teochew writing system by assigning rare Chinese characters new pronunciations and meanings where spoken words lack established written forms.

Load-bearing premise

The corpus's value rests on the expert annotations being consistent and faithful to real Teochew, including the rare characters that were assigned new pronunciations and meanings when no standard written form existed.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • Pinyin-based ASR on the corpus reaches 16.88 percent word error rate with a small transformer and 10.01 percent character error with a fine-tuned large model, so the annotations are usable for recognition.
  • Tacotron2 and FastSpeech2 trained on the corpus produce intelligible speech with mean opinion scores of 3.52 and 3.22, so the corpus supports text-to-speech.
  • The corpus covers 94.8 percent of Teochew's 882 initial-final combinations, providing a broad phonological basis for model training.
  • The released text frontend tools fill the missing Teochew front end for speech synthesis, including polyphone disambiguation and Mandarin-to-Teochew mapping.
  • The remaining unlabeled in-the-wild audio can support semi-supervised expansion of the corpus in future work.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The paper's choice to assign new pronunciations and meanings to rare characters is a de facto orthographic proposal; its long-term viability depends on whether fluent speakers accept and reproduce those characters in writing.
  • The dataset makes possible a direct benchmark of Teochew-versus-Hokkien transfer, letting future work quantify how much cross-dialect data actually helps or hurts low-resource speech systems.
  • The same two-stage annotation pipeline, Mandarin semantic transcription followed by dialect orthography and pinyin, could be applied to other undocumented Sinitic dialects with a similar written-character gap.
  • The Whisper fine-tuning result of about 10 percent CER is an empirical claim about large-model adaptation to low-resource dialects; re-running with a matched training schedule on a different large model would test its generality.
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Referee Report

3 major / 7 minor

Summary. The paper introduces Teochew-Wild, a publicly released 18.9-hour Teochew speech corpus containing 12,500 utterances from 20 speakers of in-the-wild audio, annotated with both Chinese characters and Teochew pinyin. The construction pipeline includes data collection from internet multimedia, preprocessing (standardization, source separation, denoising, VAD, SNR filtering), and a two-stage annotation process. The paper also presents supplementary text front-end tools (G2P conversion, polyphone disambiguation, Teochew-Mandarin mapping) and describes a supplementation of the Teochew writing system. Experiments report TTS MOS scores of 3.52 (Tacotron2) and 3.22 (FastSpeech2), and ASR CER/WER values ranging from about 9.6% to 39.4% for Fairseq S2T and fine-tuned Whisper-medium, which the authors interpret as validating the corpus for ASR and TTS.

Significance. If the annotation quality is verified, Teochew-Wild would be a valuable contribution to a severely under-resourced language: it is a publicly available corpus with orthographic and pinyin labels covering formal and colloquial speech, and it ships text front-end resources that are genuinely missing for Teochew. The speech-quality comparison and the intelligible TTS output are encouraging, and the Whisper fine-tuning results suggest the corpus can support modern model adaptation. The corpus statistics are internally consistent, and the dataset release is a concrete and reusable artifact. However, the central claim of 'accurate orthographic annotations' is currently supported only by an assertion about expert annotation, not by measurement, so the corpus's value to the community depends on the validation the manuscript does not yet provide.

major comments (3)
  1. [III-D, III-E, Abstract] The abstract's central claim that Teochew-Wild is a dataset with 'accurate orthographic annotations' is load-bearing, but the manuscript reports no inter-annotator agreement, no independent dictionary check, and no error analysis for the annotations. Section III-D describes a two-stage process ending with two experts, and Section III-E states that rare characters were assigned new pronunciations and meanings when no character existed; these labels are not independently recoverable from an external standard. Additionally, the annotation pipeline in Section III-C relies on the authors' own G2P and polyphone-disambiguation tools, so the ASR/TTS experiments cannot by themselves detect systematic annotation errors. I request at least one of the following: (i) an inter-annotator agreement measure (e.g., character-level and pinyin-level agreement, Cohen's kappa) on a held-out subset; (ii) an independent expert audit of a random sample with a quantified error rate; or (iii) a public list of the supplemented characters with their assigned pronunciations and meanings, together with counts of how many utterances/characters are affected. Without such evidence, 'accurate' is an assertion rather than a demonstrated property of the resource.
  2. [III-B.e] The SNR filtering threshold is described only as 'predefined' and is never given, even though it is one of the quality gates that determines which clips enter the corpus. The threshold must be reported for reproducibility and for users to understand the data distribution. Relatedly, the VAD merging rule is stated only as 'no shorter than 1 second and no longer than 20 seconds'; the precise algorithm for merging consecutive segments should be specified, since this parameter affects utterance boundaries and, indirectly, all downstream statistics and experiments.
  3. [V-C, Table V] The ASR effectiveness claims rest on point estimates from a 700-utterance test set without confidence intervals, significance tests, or per-speaker/per-domain breakdowns. For example, the Whisper Chinese-character CER of 10.01% versus pinyin WER of 15.03% may reflect a difference in evaluation granularity rather than model behavior, and a change of a few dozen utterances could move these numbers noticeably. I ask for bootstrap confidence intervals or an equivalent uncertainty estimate, the number of test utterances contributing to each number, and a clarification of what 'WER' means for pinyin annotations: if pinyin tokens are syllables, this should be called a pinyin syllable error rate or a word segmentation criterion must be defined.
minor comments (7)
  1. [Abstract and Section III] The abstract uses 'precise orthographic annotations' while the body and conclusion use 'accurate'; choose one term and define what accuracy means for this resource.
  2. [III-C.1] The 'community-created online Teochew dictionary' is not versioned or dated; please add a retrieval date and, if possible, a snapshot so the G2P lexicon is reproducible.
  3. [IV-B] The phrase 'about 12.13% of the characters in the Teochew dataset are made up of the 10 most common characters' is unclear; it should read 'the 10 most common characters account for 12.13% of character occurrences.'
  4. [V-B.1] The MOS setup should report how many ratings each of the 50 sampled utterances received; with 12 testers each listening to 20 samples, the 95% confidence intervals are only interpretable if the per-utterance rating distribution is specified.
  5. [Table II] State clearly whether the DNSMOS scores for Teochew-Wild were computed by the authors, and note that DNSMOS is trained mainly on English and Mandarin data, so cross-language comparisons should be interpreted cautiously.
  6. [III-E] The supplementation of the writing system by assigning new pronunciations and meanings to rare characters should cite the specific ancient texts used and discuss how these choices become stable conventions; as written, the procedure appears ad hoc and hard for others to reproduce.
  7. [Footnote 1] The dataset URL in the footnote contains a space ('teochew wild') and should be percent-encoded or replaced with a working link.

Circularity Check

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No circularity: the dataset construction and the ASR/TTS evaluations are self-contained and do not reduce to their inputs.

full rationale

This paper is a corpus-construction report, not a derivational argument, and no load-bearing step reduces to its own inputs. The annotations are produced by human transcribers and experts with reference to an external community dictionary, Teochew Pinyin (Pengim), and the authors' text-frontend tools (Sections III-C and III-D); these resources are inputs to annotation, but the downstream experiments do not presuppose the annotation quality they are meant to illustrate. The TTS evaluation uses 12 native Teochew speakers scoring naturalness and intelligibility via MOS on held-out test utterances (Section V-B1), which is an external human check independent of the authors' labels. The ASR experiments are trained on the training split and evaluated on separate validation and test splits (Section V-A), including Whisper-medium, a pre-trained model that had not previously encountered Teochew; its fine-tuned CER/WER numbers therefore measure generalization to held-out data rather than restating a fitted parameter. DNSMOS P.835 scores compare speech quality to external datasets such as VCTK, LibriTTS, and Emilia (Table II). The claim that this is the first publicly available Teochew dataset is a priority claim, supported by literature comparison rather than by derivation. Although the accuracy of the orthographic annotations is not directly measured with inter-annotator agreement or an independent gold standard, and Section III-E describes supplying rare characters with new pronunciations and meanings, that is a potential evidence gap or correctness risk, not a circularity: the paper never defines 'accurate' in terms of the reported MOS or CER/WER numbers, and the evaluations use external listeners and held-out data. There are no self-citations used as load-bearing support, no fitted quantity renamed as a prediction, and no uniqueness theorem imported from the authors' prior work. The central claim 'the data works' is tested rather than asserted, so the paper receives a circularity score of 0.

Assumptions & free parameters 2 free parameters · 4 assumptions · 1 invented entities

The corpus relies on the Pengim phonetic system, expert intuition for annotation, and an author-created extension of the writing system. The free parameters are pipeline design choices that influence data quality but are not fitted to optimize a reported objective.

free parameters (2)
  • SNR filtering threshold
    Used in preprocessing to filter noisy clips, but the specific value is not reported in Section III-B(e). The threshold affects which clips enter the corpus.
  • VAD segment length bounds = 1 to 20 seconds
    Chosen by hand to merge VAD segments into utterances; affects corpus statistics and model training, Section III-B(d).
assumptions (4)
  • domain assumption The Teochew Pinyin (Pengim) system from 1960 is a valid phonetic representation.
    Assumed as the phonetic basis for all pinyin annotations, Section II-A.
  • ad hoc to paper Chinese characters can represent Teochew speech when supplemented by assigning new meanings/pronunciations to rare characters.
    Underpins the orthographic annotation layer and the writing system supplementation in Section III-E.
  • domain assumption The annotations produced by two experts are accurate ground truth.
    No inter-annotator agreement or external validation is reported, yet the ASR/TTS evaluations treat these annotations as correct, Section III-D.
  • domain assumption The 20 selected speakers are representative enough for a useful corpus.
    Speakers were chosen by clear pronunciation and sufficient duration from 200+ hours of raw data, without a stated sampling or diversity protocol, Section III-B.
invented entities (1)
  • Supplemented orthographic characters
    purpose: Rare Chinese characters assigned new Teochew pronunciations and meanings to cover colloquial pronunciations lacking standard written forms.
    These mappings are introduced by the authors without external validation or released guidelines, Section III-E.

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This paper reports the construction of the Teochew-Wild, a speech corpus of the Teochew dialect. The corpus includes 18.9 hours of in-the-wild Teochew speech data from multiple speakers, covering both formal and colloquial expressions, with precise orthographic and pinyin annotations. Additionally, we provide supplementary text processing tools and resources to propel research and applications in speech tasks for this low-resource language, such as automatic speech recognition (ASR) and text-to-speech (TTS). To the best of our knowledge, this is the first publicly available Teochew dataset with accurate orthographic annotations. We conduct experiments on the corpus, and the results validate its effectiveness in ASR and TTS tasks.

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