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arxiv: 1907.07508 · v1 · pith:ALVGYCKDnew · submitted 2019-07-17 · 🌌 astro-ph.HE · astro-ph.IM

Monte Carlo Studies of Combined MAGIC and LST1 Observations

F. Di Pierro , L. Arrabito , A. Baquero Larriva , A. Berti , J. Bregeon , D. Depaoli , D. Dominis Prester , R. Lopez Coto
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M. Manganaro S. Mi\'canovi\'c A. Moralejo Y. Ohtani L. Saha J. Sitarek Y. Suda T. Terzi\'c I. Vovk T. Vuillaume
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keywords gamma-ray astronomyImaging Atmospheric Cherenkov TelescopesMonte Carlo simulationscross-calibrationMAGIC telescopesLST1 prototypeair shower reconstructionCTA
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Co-located LST1 and MAGIC telescopes enable direct event-by-event cross-calibration by comparing the same air shower reconstructions.

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The paper investigates what combined data taking by the LST1 prototype and the MAGIC telescopes could achieve. The authors use Monte Carlo simulations to explore how the two systems, sitting roughly 100 meters apart, can compare reconstructed parameters from identical extensive air showers on an event-by-event basis. This matters for the upcoming Cherenkov Telescope Array because reliable cross-calibration at the lowest energies would help validate telescope responses before full deployment. If the simulations hold, combined observations could tighten understanding of trigger behavior and reconstruction quality across different instrument designs.

Core claim

The co-location of LST1 and MAGIC offers the opportunity to cross-calibrate the two systems on an event-by-event basis by comparing the parameters of the same extensive air shower reconstructed by both instruments, and Monte Carlo studies were used to investigate the performance reachable with such combined observations.

What carries the argument

Event-by-event comparison of reconstructed air-shower parameters from simultaneous MAGIC and LST1 observations.

If this is right

  • Cross-calibration becomes possible without relying on external reference sources.
  • Performance estimates for low-energy gamma-ray detection in CTA can be tested against an existing well-characterized system.
  • Differences in trigger efficiency and image reconstruction between the two telescope types can be quantified directly.
  • Systematic uncertainties in energy and direction reconstruction may be reduced through mutual validation.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The same co-location method could later be applied to pairs of LSTs once more units are installed.
  • Hybrid event selection cuts derived from the dual reconstruction might improve background rejection beyond what either instrument achieves alone.
  • Long-term monitoring of parameter agreement could reveal aging or calibration drifts in either system.

Load-bearing premise

The Monte Carlo simulations accurately capture the real detection responses, trigger behaviors, and reconstruction algorithms of both MAGIC and LST1 such that combined performance predictions are reliable.

What would settle it

Simultaneous real observations of the same air showers where the difference in reconstructed parameters between LST1 and MAGIC exceeds the spread predicted by the Monte Carlo simulations.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 1907.07508 by A. Baquero Larriva, A. Berti, A. Moralejo, D. Depaoli, D. Dominis Prester, F. Di Pierro, I. Vovk, J. Bregeon, J. Sitarek, L. Arrabito, L. Saha, M. Manganaro, R. Lopez Coto, S. Mi\'canovi\'c, T. Terzi\'c, T. Vuillaume, Y. Ohtani, Y. Suda.

Figure 1
Figure 1. Figure 1: (Left) Simulated telescope positions (4 LSTs, 2 MAGIC and 1 MST), site of La Palma. (Right) Images on MAGIC1, MAGIC2 and LST1 cameras of a 94 GeV gamma, the core position is shown in the left panel with a white cross. The simulation of the telescopes was done using sim_telarray [7], applied for the first time to simulate also the MAGIC telescopes. The implementation of the MAGIC telescopes has been extensi… view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Figure 2: Simulated MAGIC differential sensitivity (50h) and measured one [12]. The point source differential sensitivity is shown in fig. 3 for MAGIC, MAGIC and LST1 combined observations and for the 4 LSTs (labelled as ”LST all”). The differential sensitivity ratios with respect to MAGIC are shown in fig. 4. The simulated trigger condition for MAGIC￾LST1 combined observation was the standard MAGIC stereo trigger a… view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Figure 3: Differential sensitivities for point-like source in 50 hours, for MAGIC, MAGIC-LST1 combined observations and 4 LSTs. As references are also shown the CTA North requirement and simulated sensitivity (MARS analysis result) [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_3.png] view at source ↗
Figure 4
Figure 4. Figure 4: Differential sensitivities ratios (larger is better), for MAGIC-LST1 combined observations (red) and 4 LSTs (green), with respect to MAGIC (black). MAGIC published sensitivity, we have studied the expected performance of MAGIC and LST1 combined observations. It has been shown that already combining the events by means of simple time tagging and including the images in a common analysis framework will provi… view at source ↗
Figure 5
Figure 5. Figure 5: Differential sensitivities ratios for MAGIC-LST1 combined observations with hypothetical hard￾ware trigger (any 2 out of 3, in blue) and the software-only combined MAGIC-LST1 trigger (red), with respect to MAGIC (black). Acknowledgements We gratefully acknowledge financial support from the agencies and organiza￾tions listed here: http://www.cta-observatory.org/consortium_acknowledgments References [1] G. M… view at source ↗
read the original abstract

The Cherenkov Telescope Array (CTA) is the next generation very high energy gamma-ray observatory covering the 20 GeV - 300 TeV energy range with unprecedented sensitivity, angular and energy resolution. With a site in each hemisphere, CTA will provide full-sky coverage. Four Large Size Telescopes (LSTs) in each site will be dedicated to the lowest energy range (20 GeV - 200 GeV). The first LST prototype has been installed at the CTA Northern site (Canary Island of La Palma, Spain) in October 2018 and it had been since then in commissioning phase. LST1 is located at about 100 m from MAGIC, a system of two 17m-diameter Imaging Atmospheric Cherenkov Telescopes designed to perform gamma-ray astronomy in the energy range from 50 GeV with standard trigger (30 GeV with SumTrigger) to 50 TeV and whose performance is very well established. The co-location of LST1 and MAGIC offers the great opportunity of cross-calibrating the two systems on an event-by-event basis. It will be indeed possible to compare the parameters of the same extensive air shower reconstructed by the two instruments. We investigated the performance that could be reached with combined observations.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

2 major / 1 minor

Summary. The manuscript presents Monte Carlo studies of combined observations between the LST1 prototype and the MAGIC telescopes, which are co-located at La Palma. It claims that this setup offers the opportunity for event-by-event cross-calibration by comparing reconstructed parameters of the same extensive air showers, and investigates the performance reachable with such combined observations for CTA commissioning and operations.

Significance. If the Monte Carlo predictions hold, the work could provide useful guidance on cross-calibration strategies for LST1 and MAGIC, leveraging their proximity for direct comparison of air-shower parameters. However, the significance is constrained by the purely simulation-based approach without described real-data validation, limiting the reliability of any quantitative performance gains.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract: The central performance claims rest on Monte Carlo simulations accurately reproducing the trigger responses, image cleaning, and stereo reconstruction of both MAGIC and LST1 for the same air showers, yet no coincident real-data validation or comparison to established MAGIC performance is described, leaving the fidelity assumption untested and load-bearing for the conclusions.
  2. The manuscript provides no methodological details, equations, simulation parameters, or quantitative results (e.g., sensitivity curves, angular resolution improvements) in the available text, preventing assessment of whether the combined-observation predictions are robust or merely illustrative.
minor comments (1)
  1. [Abstract] The abstract mentions specific energy ranges (20 GeV-200 GeV for LSTs, 50 GeV-50 TeV for MAGIC) but does not clarify how the combined analysis chain handles overlapping or differing trigger thresholds.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the constructive comments on our Monte Carlo study of combined MAGIC and LST1 observations. We address each major comment below and will revise the manuscript accordingly to improve clarity on limitations and methods.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: The central performance claims rest on Monte Carlo simulations accurately reproducing the trigger responses, image cleaning, and stereo reconstruction of both MAGIC and LST1 for the same air showers, yet no coincident real-data validation or comparison to established MAGIC performance is described, leaving the fidelity assumption untested and load-bearing for the conclusions.

    Authors: We agree that the work is purely simulation-based and does not present coincident real-data validation or direct comparison of combined-event parameters with real data. This is because LST1 was in the commissioning phase when the study was performed, and the manuscript focuses on prospective performance predictions using MC. We will revise the abstract and introduction to explicitly state that results rely on MC simulations without real-data cross-checks for the combined system, while noting that the MAGIC MC chain is configured to reproduce its established performance. revision: yes

  2. Referee: The manuscript provides no methodological details, equations, simulation parameters, or quantitative results (e.g., sensitivity curves, angular resolution improvements) in the available text, preventing assessment of whether the combined-observation predictions are robust or merely illustrative.

    Authors: The full manuscript includes a methods section describing the air-shower simulation, telescope response modeling, and reconstruction chain, along with quantitative results in figures for sensitivity and resolution. However, to ensure these are fully accessible and to address the concern, we will expand the methods with additional equations for the stereo parameter combination, include a table of key simulation parameters (e.g., energy range, zenith angles, trigger settings), and ensure all quantitative claims are clearly tied to specific results. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity: standard Monte Carlo performance study with no fitted predictions or self-referential derivations

full rationale

The paper is a pure Monte Carlo simulation study investigating combined MAGIC+LST1 performance for cross-calibration. No equations, parameter fits, or derivations are presented that reduce any output to the input data by construction. No self-citations are invoked as load-bearing uniqueness theorems. The central claim rests on the (unvalidated) assumption that the MC accurately models both instruments, but this is an external modeling assumption rather than a circular reduction within the paper's logic. This is the most common honest finding for simulation-only performance papers.

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