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Multi-turn multi-agent dialogue only marginally improves VLM spatial reasoning in collaborative structure reconstruction.

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arxiv 2605.31387 v1 pith:AR46D7UD submitted 2026-05-29 cs.CL cs.RO

Multi-Turn Multi-Agent Dialogue for Collaborative Reconstruction Improves VLM Performance on Spatial Reasoning, But Only Barely

Chalamalasetti Kranti , Sherzod Hakimov , David Schlangen This is my paper
classification cs.CL cs.RO
keywords vision-language modelsspatial reasoningcollaborative dialoguestructure reconstructionmulti-agent interactiongrounded language generationVLM evaluation
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The paper tests vision-language models in a collaborative task where agents must reconstruct a target structure through dialogue using visual or textual inputs. It establishes that spatial reasoning over visual representations stays difficult even with multi-turn interactions, while detailed text descriptions of the target produce higher reconstruction success across conditions. Decomposed image representations provide modest gains over single images. These outcomes point to ongoing limits in visual spatial grounding and the generation of grounded instructions for joint tasks.

Core claim

In a framework where VLMs engage in multi-turn dialogue to reconstruct structures, detailed text representations of the target yield higher reconstruction success across modality conditions while decomposed image representations improve performance, yet spatial reasoning over visual representations remains difficult for the evaluated models.

What carries the argument

The collaborative structure-building task framework in which multiple VLMs use dialogue to reconstruct a target from visual and textual inputs.

Load-bearing premise

The collaborative structure-building task and chosen metrics accurately measure the spatial reasoning and grounded instruction generation capabilities relevant to real robotic applications.

What would settle it

An experiment in which the same VLMs achieve high reconstruction success rates using only visual inputs and no text descriptions would falsify the reported difficulty.

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If this is right

  • Detailed text representations of the target yield higher reconstruction success across all modality conditions.
  • Decomposed image representations improve performance relative to whole-image inputs.
  • Spatial reasoning over visual representations remains difficult even with multi-turn multi-agent dialogue.
  • Limits persist in visual spatial grounding and grounded instruction generation for collaborative VLM agents.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

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  • Hybrid text-visual input strategies may be required for reliable robotic collaboration involving spatial layouts.
  • The task setup could be extended to measure whether performance scales with additional dialogue turns or agents.
  • Similar evaluation frameworks might reveal comparable limits when applied to other grounded language tasks such as navigation or assembly.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The manuscript introduces a collaborative structure-building task in which multiple VLM agents engage in multi-turn dialogue to reconstruct a target structure from visual and/or textual inputs. It evaluates both open-weight and closed VLMs across interaction settings, input modalities, and image representations (detailed text vs. whole vs. decomposed images), concluding that spatial reasoning over visual representations remains difficult, that detailed text yields higher reconstruction success, and that decomposed images provide modest gains.

Significance. If the quantitative results and evaluation protocol are made rigorous, the work would supply a concrete, reproducible benchmark for assessing grounded spatial reasoning and instruction generation in VLMs, directly relevant to collaborative robotics. The modest scope of the claims (improvement “but only barely”) and the emphasis on persistent limitations constitute a useful negative result for the field.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract and §4] Abstract and §4 (Results): the central claims rest on directional statements (“higher reconstruction success”, “improve performance”, “only barely”) with no reported success rates, confidence intervals, statistical tests, or effect sizes. Without these numbers it is impossible to judge whether the observed differences are reliable or practically meaningful.
  2. [§3] §3 (Experimental Setup): the manuscript provides no description of the precise success metric used to score reconstruction, the prompting templates, the exact model versions and temperatures, or the number of trials per condition. These protocol details are load-bearing for any comparative claim across modalities and representations.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Title] Title: the phrase “But Only Barely” should be justified by a specific quantitative comparison (e.g., absolute percentage-point gain) once the results are reported.
  2. [Figures/Tables] Figure captions and tables: ensure that every reported condition lists the exact VLM, modality, and representation variant so readers can replicate the comparisons.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the constructive feedback. The comments correctly identify gaps in quantitative reporting and protocol transparency that limit the interpretability of our results. We will revise the manuscript to address both points directly.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract and §4] Abstract and §4 (Results): the central claims rest on directional statements (“higher reconstruction success”, “improve performance”, “only barely”) with no reported success rates, confidence intervals, statistical tests, or effect sizes. Without these numbers it is impossible to judge whether the observed differences are reliable or practically meaningful.

    Authors: We agree that the current presentation relies on directional language without supporting numerical evidence. In the revised version we will report exact per-condition success rates, 95% confidence intervals, effect sizes, and the results of appropriate statistical tests (e.g., McNemar or paired t-tests) to allow readers to assess both reliability and practical significance of the observed differences. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [§3] §3 (Experimental Setup): the manuscript provides no description of the precise success metric used to score reconstruction, the prompting templates, the exact model versions and temperatures, or the number of trials per condition. These protocol details are load-bearing for any comparative claim across modalities and representations.

    Authors: We acknowledge that these implementation details are currently underspecified. The revised manuscript will include: (1) the exact definition and computation of the reconstruction success metric, (2) the full prompting templates for all agent roles and modalities, (3) precise model identifiers and version numbers together with temperature and other sampling parameters, and (4) the number of independent trials run per experimental cell. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity; empirical measurement study

full rationale

The paper is an empirical evaluation of VLMs on a collaborative reconstruction task. It defines an experimental framework, runs evaluations across modalities and settings, and reports direct performance measurements (reconstruction success rates). No equations, fitted parameters, predictions derived from prior results, or self-citation chains are present; the claims are measurements, not derivations that reduce to their inputs by construction. The study is self-contained against external benchmarks.

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Empirical evaluation paper; no mathematical model, free parameters, axioms, or invented entities are present in the abstract.

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Robots operating in diverse environments rely on visual input to interpret objects and spatial layouts. In human-collaborative tasks, they are expected to communicate this understanding through language. Vision-language models (VLMs) support robotic tasks involving visual interpretation, question answering, and instruction following, but their capabilities in collaborative dialogue tasks requiring spatial reasoning remain underexplored. We study this gap through a collaborative structure-building task that combines visual interpretation, grounding, language-guided interaction, and action generation. We develop a framework in which VLMs use dialogue to reconstruct a target structure from visual and textual inputs. We evaluate open-weight and closed VLMs across interaction settings, input modalities, and image representations. Results show that spatial reasoning over visual representations remains difficult for the evaluated VLMs. Detailed text representations of the target yield higher reconstruction success across modality conditions, while decomposed image representations improve performance. These findings reveal limits in visual spatial grounding and grounded instruction generation for collaborative VLM agents.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2605.31387 by Chalamalasetti Kranti, David Schlangen, Sherzod Hakimov.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: Illustration of the two-agent structure-building [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p001_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: Example of a target structure code and its ren [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p003_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: Example of the layer-wise target representa [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: Example input representations for the Programmer and Robot across modality conditions. The Programmer [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_4.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 5. Figure 5: Reconstruction success rate across structure [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p007_5.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 7. Figure 7: Reconstruction success rate for two-agent [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p007_7.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 8. Figure 8: Two-agent failure cases for GPT-5.2-Chat (top-panel) and Qwen3-VL-30B (bottom-panel) across inter [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p008_8.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 9. Figure 9: Programmer Prompt Overview Robot’s Prompt Your input fields are: 1. ‘prompt‘ (str): Prompt with Instruction from User and current grid state Your output fields are: 1. ‘player_response‘ (str): A JSON object with keys ’status’ and ’details’ as described above All interactions will be structured in the following way, with the appropriate values filled in. [[ ## player_response ## ]] player_response [[ ## com… view at source ↗
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Figure 10. Figure 10: Robot Prompt Overview constraints: (a) horizontal and vertical bridges oc￾cupy two cells, while other components occupy one cell; (b) cells support vertical stacking; (c) a screw can only be placed at the top, and no other com￾ponent can be stacked on it; (d) bridge placement must satisfy depth constraints; and (e) components with the same color or type cannot be stacked on each other. The boards are cate… view at source ↗
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Figure 12. Figure 12: Reconstruction success rate for two-agent [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p015_12.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 13. Figure 13: Part-1 of the prompt template used for the single agent VLM in single-turn setting. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p016_13.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 14. Figure 14: Part-2 of the prompt template used for the single agent VLM in single-turn setting. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p017_14.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 15. Figure 15: Part-3 of the prompt template used for the single agent VLM in single-turn setting. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p018_15.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 16. Figure 16: Part-4 of the prompt template used for the single agent VLM in single-turn setting. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p019_16.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 17. Figure 17: Prompt template used for the single agent VLM in multi-turn. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p019_17.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 18. Figure 18: Part-1 of prompt template used for the Programmer in two-agent VLM in single-turn. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p020_18.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 19. Figure 19: Part-2 of prompt template used for the Programmer in two-agent VLM in single-turn. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p021_19.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 20. Figure 20: Part-1 of prompt template used for the Programmer in two-agent VLM in multi-turn. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p022_20.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 21. Figure 21: Part-2 of prompt template used for the Programmer in two-agent in multi-turn. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p023_21.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 22. Figure 22: Prompt template used for the Robot in two-agent VLM in multi-turn. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p024_22.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 23. Figure 23: Example difference grid: Textual information for the Programmer on where the Robot’s current grid [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p025_23.png] view at source ↗

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