REVIEW 5 major objections 4 minor 1 cited by
Beyond Surface Structure: A Causal Assessment of LLMs' Comprehension Ability
T0 review · 5 major / 4 minor · reviewed 2026-08-12 · deepseek-v4-flash
Pith's one-line read This paper claims that most evaluated LLMs genuinely depend on core semantics when answering, and proposes a causal metric, ADCE, that separates deep-structure comprehension from surface-structure sensitivity.
desk verdict A useful relative measure of deep vs surface sensitivity, but the leap from positive ADCE to 'deep structure comprehension' is not yet secured. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The central object is the approximated direct causal effect (ADCE), defined as the difference between the total effect of an intervention that changes both deep and surface structure and an approximated indirect causal effect (AICE) that changes only surface structure, with output changes measured by indicator functions. It is estimated in three steps: infer correct answers on the full dataset, generate paired interventions by masking core semantic tokens or by minimally rephrasing with an LLM agent equipped with a self-check, and re-run the model to compare outputs. The causal graph treats deep structure d and surface structure s as parallel mediators between the input x and the answer Y, so the path x→d→Y is the direct effect and x→s→Y is the indirect effect. Theorem 1 decomposes ADCE into weighted probabilities of sufficiency and necessity, which is the mechanism by which the paper claims ADCE is a bidirectional evaluation rather than a one-directional accuracy score.
What would settle it
Take a pool of correctly answered questions and build two versions of the surface-only intervention: one that keeps phrasing as close as possible to the changed-semantics version, as the paper does, and one deliberately rephrased into very different wording. If ADCE changes substantially between the two conditions, then AICE is contaminated by surface-state differences and does not isolate the deep-structure effect; the central claim would then hold only for the paper's specific intervention templates, not for deep-structure comprehension in general.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
On the paper's own terms, the central discovery is that most evaluated LLMs have a positive approximated direct causal effect (ADCE): intervening on the core semantics of a previously solved problem makes the model deviate from the correct answer, whereas intervening only on presentation format leaves answers mostly intact. Closed-source models show stronger dependence on deep structure than on surface structure, while open-source models show the opposite pattern, but their surface sensitivity decreases as the model gets larger. Theoretically, ADCE is shown to be a weighted combination of the probability of sufficiency and the probability of necessity of deep-structure changes for output changes, so it measures whether deep structure is both sufficient and necessary for the model's answer rather than merely whether the answer is correct. A randomly initialized baseline yields zero ADCE, supporting the interpretation that the effect is tied to learned comprehension rather than to the intervention procedure itself.
Load-bearing premise
The measurement only works if the hand-built interventions really separate meaning from wording: changing a number or an answer-changing phrase must alter core semantics, and the surface-only version must leave meaning untouched while looking almost identical in form; the paper argues for this but validates the approximation on synthetic data rather than on the actual language interventions.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- If ADCE is accepted, high accuracy alone should no longer be treated as evidence of comprehension; a model with high accuracy but near-zero ADCE is likely solving via surface cues.
- Benchmark design can use ADCE as a secondary score: tasks where models show high accuracy but low ADCE are tasks that permit surface-level shortcuts.
- The scale trend implies that larger open-source models become more semantically grounded, and this is measurable even when their accuracy is already high.
- Because ADCE is computed from a model's outputs without needing weights or training data, it can be applied to closed-source APIs as well as open models.
- The fine-tuning result suggests that activating task-relevant knowledge, not just adding parameters, is what produces deep-structure dependence, and ADCE can detect this activation where accuracy may not.
Reading between the lines
- I infer that the approximation error of AICE is unmeasured for natural-language interventions, since the paper validates it only on synthetic data; a natural next step would be to generate several independent rephrasings per sample and check whether ADCE stays stable.
- I infer that the accuracy–ADCE gap could be repurposed as a dataset diagnostic: a benchmark whose best models have high accuracy but low ADCE is likely solvable through surface patterns, which would predict poor transfer to novel distributions.
- I infer that the closed-source versus open-source difference is likely entangled with model scale and post-training, so a fair test would compare models matched on accuracy or parameter count.
- I infer that the sufficiency–necessity interpretation could be tested directly by varying the strength of deep-structure change and asking whether output change follows the predicted probability of necessity.
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Editorial analysis
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Referee Report
Summary. The paper proposes a causal-mediation framework for measuring whether LLMs rely on 'deep structure' (core semantics) versus 'surface structure' (linguistic form). It defines deep-structure comprehension through a formal invariance criterion (Eq. 1), reformulates it as a direct causal effect (DCE), and introduces estimable surrogates ADCE and AICE that replace the unobservable oracle indirect effect with observable intervention arms. The paper then applies ADCE and AICE to 12 LLMs on five benchmarks, reporting that most models have positive ADCE, that ADCE correlates with accuracy, that closed-source models rely more on deep structure while open-source models are more surface-sensitive, and that ADCE behaves differently from accuracy under spurious correlations. The main theoretical result (Theorem 1) expresses ADCE as a weighted combination of probabilities of sufficiency and necessity under a monotonicity assumption. The algebraic decomposition and the reported experiments are internally consistent, but the central interpretation—that positive ADCE establishes deep-structure comprehension—rests on unverified assumptions about the intervention arms and on a stronger formal definition than the experiments actually test.
Significance. If the proposed metrics were validated, they would provide a useful complement to accuracy for evaluating whether LLM outputs depend on core semantics, and the breadth of the evaluation across model families and tasks is a genuine strength. The paper also includes a synthetic-data check, a spurious-correlation case study, and noise-robustness experiments, which are commendable attempts to support the method. However, the gap between the formal definition of comprehension and the operationalized ADCE statistic is substantial, and the approximation that AICE stands in for the oracle indirect effect is not validated on real language interventions. The contribution is therefore potentially valuable as a sensitivity-analysis tool, but the current manuscript overstates what positive ADCE proves about 'comprehension' in the sense of Eq. (1).
major comments (5)
- [§2, Eq. (1) and §4.2, Fig. 4] Equation (1) defines deep-structure comprehension as the requirement that surface-only interventions leave the output unchanged and deep interventions always change it. However, Figure 4 shows that all tested models suffer substantial accuracy drops under surface-only interventions (for example, Llama-3-8b drops from the 100% baseline of correctly answered samples to roughly 50% accuracy on several strategies). This means no tested model satisfies Eq. (1), so positive ADCE cannot be read as evidence for the comprehension criterion stated in Eq. (1). At most, ADCE measures a relative sensitivity between two intervention arms, and the sign of ADCE can be driven by differences in intervention strength between the TE and AICE arms rather than by dependence on deep structure.
- [§3.3, Algorithm 2 and Table 1] The AICE control arm is not shown to match the surface component of the TE arm in difficulty, grammaticality, or type of perturbation. In the Mask strategy, the TE sample 'What is <mask> times 20?' masks a numeral, while the AICE sample 'What <mask> 50 times 20?' masks a function word; these differ not only in deep structure but also in which token is masked and in the grammaticality of the resulting question. For the Rephrase strategy, Algorithm 3's self-check verifies only that the rephrased question changes or preserves the answer according to Claude-3.5-Sonnet; it does not verify surface-form equivalence between s(T=1) and s(T=0). As a result, ADCE = TE − AICE can be positive even for a model whose outputs depend only on surface form whenever the TE surface change is more disruptive than the AICE surface change. No sensitivity analysis over the free parameter k in Algorithm 2 is provided.
- [Appendix E, Eqs. (15)-(16), Fig. 11] The synthetic validation uses a linear scalar SCM with known d and s and a logistic outcome model, and it checks the algebraic estimator on that SCM. This does not validate the key approximation that replaces the unobservable ICE with the observable AICE in Eq. (5): the paper provides no formal error bound and no sensitivity analysis for the substitution of s(T=1) by s(T=0), and the synthetic model does not instantiate the actual Mask or Rephrase linguistic interventions used in the experiments. The claim that AICE approximates the oracle ICE is therefore unverified for the real LLM setting.
- [Theorem 1 and §4.3, Fig. 5 and Table 8] Theorem 1's interpretation of ADCE as a weighted combination of probabilities of sufficiency and necessity relies on the monotonicity of the indicator outcome with respect to T. Under that assumption, ADCE is a nonnegative combination of nonnegative quantities and hence cannot be negative. Yet Section 4.3 reports negative ADCE for Llama-3-8b on Analytic Entailment (e.g., −0.071 for the pre-trained model in Table 8). These negative values are direct evidence that the monotonicity assumption fails for those model-task cells, so the Theorem's PS/PN interpretation does not apply to the full evaluation. The paper labels the negative values an 'anomaly' but does not qualify the theoretical claim or test monotonicity.
- [§4.2, footnote 3 and Fig. 5] The random-weight baseline has zero accuracy, so there are no correctly answered samples on which to perform the interventions defined in Algorithm 2; its ADCE is zero by construction rather than by the estimation procedure. Consequently, comparing other models' ADCE to this baseline does not validate the estimator's ability to detect zero causal effect. The linear regression in Fig. 5 also lacks confidence intervals and per-point uncertainty, which is especially important because the number of models per task is small and ADCE values for individual models are estimated from limited intervention samples.
minor comments (4)
- [Throughout] There are numerous typos and inconsistent capitalizations, including 'esitimate' in §3.2, 'suck as' in §3.3, 'Entaiment' in Table 3, 'empoly' in Appendix B.1, 'intrested' in Figure 10, and mixed 'Llama'/'LLama' spellings; a careful proofread is needed.
- [Appendix C.2, Theorem 2] Theorem 2 states the result for δDCE, but the proof and the main-text Theorem 1 concern δADCE; the appendix should be aligned with the main theorem to avoid confusion.
- [Fig. 4 and Fig. 5] The figures show only point estimates and no error bars or confidence intervals, despite the fact that ADCE and accuracy are computed from small, repeatedly intervened samples (2 or 4 intervention samples per original correct sample); reporting variance would strengthen the empirical claims.
- [§4.5, Fig. 8] The spurious-correlation experiment reports accuracy and ADCE for majority and minority groups, but it does not provide error bars or the number of evaluation samples per group; adding these would make the comparison between accuracy and ADCE more convincing.
Circularity Check
ADCE on Rephrase tasks is partly forced for Claude-3.5-Sonnet because the same model both generates the interventions under answer-change/preservation self-checks and is then evaluated on them.
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fitted input called prediction
[Section 3.3 (Rephrase data generation); Algorithm 3 in Appendix F.1; Section 4.1 model list; Section 4.2 interpretation]
"For rephrasing, we use Claude-3.5-Sonnet [31] and design a self-checking mechanism. Claude re-answers rephrased questions to verify deep structure alteration and preservation. ... if (T = “Alter” and y′ ̸= y) or (T = “Preserve” and y′ = y) then selfCheckFlag ← True ... We test 12 leading models ... Claude (Claude-3-Sonnet, Claude-3.5-Sonnet). Positive ADCE values suggest that intervening deep structure causes LLMs to deviate from correct answers on previously solved problems, highlighting the models’ reliance on deep structure for accurate problem-solving."
On the two Rephrase-based tasks (Analytic Entailment and CommonsenseQA), Algorithm 3 constructs the T=1 input only when the generator's own predicted answer differs from the original label, and the T=0 input only when its predicted answer is preserved. Claude-3.5-Sonnet is both the generator and one of the evaluated models. Its TE is therefore measured on questions selected to change that model's answer, and its AICE on questions selected to keep that model's answer fixed; the positive ADCE for this model on these tasks is enforced by the selection rule rather than measured independently.
full rationale
The algebraic core of the paper—ADCE as a difference of observable answer-change indicators (Eq. 5) and its decomposition into weighted PS/PN terms (Theorem 1)—is a genuine derivation from definitions and does not reduce to a fitted parameter. The Mask-based evaluations also provide independent, non-circular evidence: masking numbers or operators versus function words is a rule-based intervention not fitted to any evaluated model. The circularity is confined to the Rephrase pipeline, where the intervention data are generated by Claude-3.5-Sonnet under self-check constraints on answer change/preservation, and Claude-3.5-Sonnet is itself among the evaluated models. Because the headline positive-ADCE claim aggregates over several tasks and models, it retains independent content; however, the two Rephrase tasks' results for the generating model, and the comparative closed-source conclusion that uses those results, are partially forced by construction. Other concerns raised by the manuscript, such as the unverified equivalence of surface-only interventions in AICE and the fact that Figure 4 shows large accuracy drops under surface-only interventions (which violates the formal Eq. 1 criterion), are construct-validity and correctness risks rather than circularity, and are not scored as circular steps here.
Assumptions & free parameters
free parameters (3)
- k, number of nearest non-core tokens masked in AICE =
1
- Intervention word pools (Mask tasks) =
Task-specific lists, e.g., digits and operator for 2-digit multiplication
- Rephrase agent and self-check tolerance =
Claude-3.5-Sonnet, up to 10 iterations
assumptions (5)
- domain assumption Input x decomposes into independent latent components d and s, both mediators to output Y (x to d to Y, x to s to Y).
- ad hoc to paper T=0 interventions alter s while preserving d; T=1 interventions alter both d and s.
- ad hoc to paper AICE in Equation 5 approximates the oracle ICE in Equation 3.
- domain assumption Sequential ignorability and consistency hold (no unmeasured confounders).
- domain assumption Yhat is monotonic with respect to T in Theorem 1.
invented entities (1)
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Parallel latent mediators d (deep structure) and s (surface structure)
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Pith. "Pith review of Beyond Surface Structure: A Causal Assessment of LLMs' Comprehension Ability." pith.science (2026). https://pith.science/paper/G4FMCDUQ
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read the original abstract
Large language models (LLMs) have shown remarkable capability in natural language tasks, yet debate persists on whether they truly comprehend deep structure (i.e., core semantics) or merely rely on surface structure (e.g., presentation format). Prior studies observe that LLMs' performance declines when intervening on surface structure, arguing their success relies on surface structure recognition. However, surface structure sensitivity does not prevent deep structure comprehension. Rigorously evaluating LLMs' capability requires analyzing both, yet deep structure is often overlooked. To this end, we assess LLMs' comprehension ability using causal mediation analysis, aiming to fully discover the capability of using both deep and surface structures. Specifically, we formulate the comprehension of deep structure as direct causal effect (DCE) and that of surface structure as indirect causal effect (ICE), respectively. To address the non-estimability of original DCE and ICE -- stemming from the infeasibility of isolating mutual influences of deep and surface structures, we develop the corresponding quantifiable surrogates, including approximated DCE (ADCE) and approximated ICE (AICE). We further apply the ADCE to evaluate a series of mainstream LLMs, showing that most of them exhibit deep structure comprehension ability, which grows along with the prediction accuracy. Comparing ADCE and AICE demonstrates closed-source LLMs rely more on deep structure, while open-source LLMs are more surface-sensitive, which decreases with model scale. Theoretically, ADCE is a bidirectional evaluation, which measures both the sufficiency and necessity of deep structure changes in causing output variations, thus offering a more comprehensive assessment than accuracy, a common evaluation in LLMs. Our work provides new insights into LLMs' deep structure comprehension and offers novel methods for LLMs evaluation.
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