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An LLM that reads school calendars, weather, and official reports into a single transmission-impact number can match strong numerical forecasters on weekly HFMD point accuracy while adding calibrated prediction intervals and human-readable

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load-bearing objection Nice architectural idea, shaky uncertainty claims — the coverage is likely an artifact of LLM self-assessed width, and one key result contradicts its own table. the 4 major comments →

arxiv 2511.23276 v2 pith:IQHACK4Y submitted 2025-11-28 cs.LG cs.MA

Auditable Context-Aware HFMD Forecasting with Structured LLM Agents

Joongwon Chae , Runming Wang , Chen Xiong , Gong Yunhan , Lian Zhang , Ji Jiansong , Dongmei Yu , Peiwu Qin This is my paper
classification cs.LG cs.MA
keywords hand-foot-and-mouth diseaseepidemic forecastinglarge language modelsneuro-symbolic agentstime-series forecastingprediction intervalsnegative binomial calibrationretrieval-augmented generation
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The pith

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The paper is trying to establish that epidemic forecasting does not have to trade accuracy for interpretability. It proposes a two-agent system in which one large-language-model agent converts heterogeneous, mostly unstructured context — school schedules, weather summaries, government bulletins, and clinical guidelines — into a scalar transmission-impact score, and a second forecasting stage combines that score with historical case counts to issue probabilistic one-week-ahead forecasts. On hand-foot-and-mouth disease data from Hong Kong and a hospital in Lishui, the system reports point accuracy on par with strong classical and pretrained time-series baselines, 90% prediction-interval coverage in the 0.85–1.00 range, and concise narrative rationales for each forecast. The practical claim is that public-health teams can act on forecasts that say not just what will happen but why — and that new context can be folded in at inference time without retraining.

Core claim

On the paper's terms, the central discovery is that a neuro-symbolic division of labor works: let an LLM event interpreter read qualitative signals and compress them into a bounded transmission-impact score, and let a separate probabilistic forecaster consume that score alongside recent case counts. The authors show that this architecture matches or nearly matches the best numerical-only models on mean absolute error while producing substantially better-calibrated 90% intervals than classical statistical approaches, and it supplies an auditable rationale for every adjustment. The interpreter operates at inference time, so a new school closure or policy announcement can change the forecast im

What carries the argument

The load-bearing object is the Transmission Impact Score, a single number in [-1,1] produced by the LLM Event Interpreter that summarizes the net expected effect of all external context on HFMD transmission in the coming week, with a confidence score attached. The Forecast Generator then maps that score plus recent counts and an estimated volatility into a median forecast and an uncertainty score, and the pair is converted into a negative-binomial predictive distribution by moment matching, using variance constructed as the square of the product of mean, volatility, and one-plus-uncertainty. The 90% interval is read from the inverse CDF of that distribution. The score is what carries context

Load-bearing premise

The load-bearing premise is that the LLM's scalar transmission-impact score and its self-declared uncertainty faithfully encode real epidemiological drivers and calibrated uncertainty — if the score merely echoes hints in the prompt and the uncertainty is uncalibrated, the context channel adds no genuine forecasting value and the interval coverage numbers become artifacts.

What would settle it

Run the pipeline on the Lishui data twice with identical case counts, once with the real school calendar and once with the calendar shifted four weeks later; if point error and interval coverage do not materially change, the context channel is not carrying epidemiological information. A second check is a long held-out calibration: if empirical 90% coverage diverges sharply from the nominal level when the LLM's self-declared uncertainty is high, the variance formula is not a valid uncertainty model.

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If this is right

  • Weekly HFMD forecasts can come with calibrated 90% intervals and a short rationale naming the dominant driver (school term, weather, policy), which is directly useful for hospital-capacity and public-health planning.
  • New contextual information — a closure, a vaccination campaign, an extreme-weather event — can change the forecast immediately at inference time, with no retraining, because the interpreter runs at query time.
  • Ablations indicate school-calendar status is the strongest short-term driver in the Lishui data: removing it raises mean absolute error from about 4.1 to 6.7, implying systems that ignore school calendars will miss post-holiday surges.
  • Grounding the interpreter in retrieved official guidelines stabilizes its reasoning; without retrieval, it becomes cautious and underestimates peaks, so the retrieval step is part of the mechanism rather than a wrapper.
  • Because the two agents communicate through a single scalar, either side can be upgraded independently — a different language model or a different numerical forecaster — without rearchitecting the system.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Beyond the paper: the same two-agent template likely transfers to other environmentally sensitive infections such as influenza or dengue, since it only needs a disease-specific knowledge base and lag policy; the scalar interface keeps the forecasting core untouched.
  • Beyond the paper: the framework's advantage may be largest in short, irregular series like Lishui, where classical models under-cover and foundation models smooth peaks; a natural test is a multi-year rolling evaluation to see whether the coverage advantage persists once seasonal structure is well learned.
  • Beyond the paper: the 0.85–1.00 coverage hangs on the LLM's self-reported uncertainty being informative; an independent conformal calibration on held-out weeks would tell whether the intervals are statistically valid or partly an artifact of the moment-matching formula.
  • Beyond the paper: since each forecast costs several LLM calls, deployment would likely need a distilled, cheaper interpreter that approximates the transmission-impact score; the scalar target makes such distillation straightforward.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

4 major / 6 minor

Summary. The paper proposes a two-agent neuro-symbolic framework for weekly HFMD forecasting. Agent 1, an LLM-based Event Interpreter, ingests heterogeneous context (school calendars, weather, government reports, retrieved guidelines) and outputs a scalar transmission-impact score I_t along with a confidence score and natural-language rationale. Agent 2, an LLM-based Forecast Generator, combines I_t with recent case history and an estimated volatility v to produce point forecasts, which are mapped to negative-binomial/90% prediction intervals via moment matching σ² = (μ·v·(1+u))², where u is the LLM's self-declared uncertainty. The model is evaluated on Lishui (33 weeks) and Hong Kong (90 weeks) against classical, ML, LLM, and time-series foundation-model baselines. The central claims are that the approach achieves competitive point accuracy while providing robust 90% intervals and human-readable rationales, demonstrating that LLM-based context interpretation can match strong numerical forecasters.

Significance. If the claims are fully supported, the paper offers a useful modular design for incorporating unstructured domain knowledge into epidemiological forecasting while retaining a probabilistic output and an auditable explanation layer. The manuscript has concrete strengths: public code, full prompt templates in the appendix, two real datasets with different characteristics, and ablations isolating school calendars, climate, and RAG retrieval. However, the probabilistic-calibration claim is currently not established: the 90% intervals are driven by an uncalibrated LLM self-reported uncertainty, and the point-accuracy claim is overstated in the text relative to the reported tables. The contribution is still valuable as a qualitative-context injection mechanism, but the headline robustness claim needs recalibration or reframing.

major comments (4)
  1. [§3.3.1, Table 2] The text states that the Qwen3-based NSF-LLM 'achieves the best overall point-forecast accuracy, attaining the lowest MAE and RMSE among all models.' Table 2 directly contradicts this: TimesFM has MAE 3.972 vs. 4.124 for Qwen NSF-LLM, and Chronos/Moirai have lower CRPS (2.105/1.785 vs. 2.319). On Hong Kong (Table 3), Prophet/XGBoost/ARIMA/LSTM have MAE 3.49–3.53 vs. 3.49–4.32 for NSF-LLM variants. The 'lowest' claim should be replaced with 'competitive' and any remaining differences should be qualified with variance estimates given single-run evaluations.
  2. [§2.3.3, Eq. (σ² = (μ·v·(1+u))²)] The 90% interval width is a multiplicative function of the LLM's self-reported uncertainty u and a hand-clipped volatility v, with no recalibration step. Coverage is then measured on the same data used to generate the forecasts. The pattern in Table 2—Qwen NSF-LLM coverage 1.000 with CRPS 2.319, while Moirai has coverage 0.794 and CRPS 1.785—is exactly what one would expect from interval widening rather than calibrated predictive distributions. The abstract's 'robust 90% intervals (coverage approximately 0.85–1.00)' is therefore not supported. The authors should either calibrate u (e.g., conformal prediction, isotonic regression, or temperature scaling) or explicitly state that the intervals are conditional on LLM self-assessed uncertainty and not statistically calibrated.
  3. [§2.6.3, Tables 2–3] All experiments appear to be single-run rolling forecasts with provider-specific temperatures (0.6, 1.0, 0.7) and no repeated sampling. The reported MAE differences are often small (e.g., 4.124 vs. 3.972 on Lishui), so without repeated runs or seed/temperature sensitivity analysis, the 'competitive' point-accuracy claim is not distinguishable from LLM stochasticity. The authors should report means/standard deviations over at least several repeated runs, or justify why single runs are sufficient for their API configuration.
  4. [§3.2.2, Tables 2–3] The baseline list includes context-free LLM forecasters (Qwen3, GPT-5.1, Gemini Pro, DeepSeek-V3), but none of these are reported in Tables 2 or 3. The 'No-Agent1' ablation is not equivalent because the Forecast Generator still receives the full history and a different prompt. Without the context-free LLM results, the manuscript cannot isolate whether Agent 1's context interpretation is what improves over a pure LLM time-series forecaster. These baselines should be added to the tables or explicitly reported in an appendix.
minor comments (6)
  1. [§2.3.1] Typo: 'V olatility' should be 'Volatility'.
  2. [§4.4] The sentence 'Lower CRPS values from Moirai and the proposed Qwen-based framework' is misleading on Lishui: Qwen NSF-LLM CRPS 2.319 is higher than Chronos 2.105 and Moirai 1.785. Clarify that the Qwen variant has competitive but not lowest CRPS.
  3. [§2.3.2 vs Appendix A.4] Notation is inconsistent: §2.3.2 says the LLM outputs a 'median forecast' and 'uncertainty score u', while the prompt in A.4 asks for 'forecast_mean' and 'uncertainty_scale'. Reconcile the terminology.
  4. [§2.2.4 vs §2.6.3] The temperature is stated as 0.6 in §2.2.4, but §2.6.3 gives provider-specific temperatures (0.6 for Qwen3, 1.0 for DeepSeek, 0.7 for GPT-5.1). Clarify which temperature applies to which agent and whether Agent 2 uses a different value (the setup text mentions 0.2 elsewhere).
  5. [Figures 2–3] The figures are referenced as trajectory plots but not discussed panel-by-panel; a short pointer to which panels illustrate peak-tracking or over-smoothing would help.
  6. [Various] The repeated 'PRIME AI paper' header appears to be a template artifact and should be removed. The GitHub link should be verified before final submission.

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity; the LLM-uncertainty interval concern is a calibration/validity issue, not a circular reduction.

full rationale

The derivation chain is a two-stage pipeline: Agent 1 converts external context into I_t and C_t; Agent 2 converts history plus (I_t, C_t) into a median forecast and uncertainty score u; Section 2.3.3 maps (mu, v, u) to negative-binomial parameters by moment matching, and coverage/CRPS are then computed on rolling out-of-sample origins against observed counts. No step is defined in terms of the quantity it claims to predict, and no load-bearing self-citation or imported uniqueness theorem appears. The potential weakness—that sigma^2 = (mu·v·(1+u))^2 makes interval width a direct function of the LLM's self-reported u, with no explicit recalibration to observed coverage—is a real validity and reproducibility concern (the paper itself concedes 'computational and reproducibility limits of commercial LLM APIs'), but it is not circularity: coverage is an empirical out-of-sample statistic that could in principle be poor, and CRPS is reported alongside it. The central accuracy claims are benchmarked against external baselines (TimesFM, Chronos, Moirai, LSTM, etc.), so those comparisons have independent content.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

4 free parameters · 5 axioms · 1 invented entities

The framework's central prediction interval depends on hand-chosen volatility bounds, a hand-chosen recent window, and the LLM's self-reported uncertainty. The domain assumptions about lag and school-driven transmission are medically plausible but are injected via prompts rather than tested. The scalar transmission-impact score is an invented latent variable with no external grounding.

free parameters (4)
  • volatility clip bounds (volatility_min, volatility_max) = 0.05, 0.50
    Hand-chosen in §2.3.1 and Table 1; constrains v used in interval variance σ²=(μ·v·(1+u))², directly affecting coverage and interval width.
  • recent_window = 8 weeks
    Chosen in Table 1; defines the window for trend, volatility, and recent-context summaries; affects Agent 1/2 inputs.
  • RAG retrieval top-k = 2
    Chosen in §2.2.2; limits retrieved guideline passages to k=2 (1200 chars), affecting grounding of LLM reasoning.
  • LLM temperatures = 0.6 (Qwen3), 0.7 (GPT-5.1), 1.0 (DeepSeek)
    Hand-set in §2.6.3; stochastic outputs from a single run are used for all reported metrics, so these settings affect results but are not tuned systematically.
axioms (5)
  • domain assumption HFMD has a 1-week lag between transmission events and reported case counts (incubation + reporting delay)
    Written into both agents' prompts (Appendix A.2, A.3, A.4); if wrong, the timing of transmission_impact adjustments is wrong.
  • domain assumption School status is the strongest driver, followed by temperature/humidity, then other news
    Agent 1 prompt guidance in Appendix A.3; this ordering is assumed, not learned from data.
  • ad hoc to paper A single scalar I_t ∈ [-1,1] can adequately summarize heterogeneous contextual drivers
    Core modeling assumption in §2.2; no evidence that a scalar preserves the mechanisms needed for forecasting.
  • ad hoc to paper LLM-generated uncertainty u_{t+k} is a meaningful basis for probabilistic intervals
    §2.3.2/2.3.3; interval variance uses u directly with no recalibration against data.
  • domain assumption Retrieved China CDC guidelines are applicable to both Hong Kong and Lishui
    RAG knowledge base is China CDC guidelines in §2.2.2; Hong Kong is a separate jurisdiction, applicability unstated.
invented entities (1)
  • Transmission Impact Score I_t no independent evidence
    purpose: A scalar in [-1,1] intended to summarize the net effect of all qualitative contextual drivers on HFMD transmission; fed to Agent 2.
    Introduced in §2.2; no falsifiable handle outside the paper - it is an LLM output with no mechanistic or empirical validation.

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Effective HFMD surveillance requires forecasts capturing both time-series patterns and contextual drivers such as school calendars, weather, and policy or surveillance reports. In clinical settings, forecasts must be trusted and actionable; thus, beyond point accuracy, decision-makers require concise, auditable explanations of why risk is expected to rise or fall. Classical models (e.g., ARIMA and Prophet) and foundation models (e.g., Chronos, Moirai, and TimesFM) treat external covariates as numerical inputs, lacking semantic reasoning to reflect epidemiological mechanisms or resolve conflicting signals. We propose a two-agent neuro-symbolic framework that decouples contextual interpretation from probabilistic forecasting. An LLM-based Event Interpreter ingests heterogeneous signals -- school schedules, weather summaries, government reports, and clinical guidelines -- and outputs a scalar transmission-impact signal. A Forecast Generator combines this signal with historical case counts to produce point forecasts that are mapped to probabilistic predictions through Poisson/negative-binomial moment matching. We focus on one-week-ahead rolling forecasts, aligning with weekly hospital-capacity planning and the rapid, context-driven inflections typical of HFMD. We evaluate on two datasets: Hong Kong surveillance (90 target weeks in 2023--2024) and Lishui hospital visits (33 target weeks in 2024). Against traditional and foundation-model baselines, our approach achieves competitive point accuracy while providing robust 90\% intervals (coverage approximately 0.85--1.00) and concise rationales. This demonstrates that integrating domain knowledge through LLM-based agents can match strong numerical forecasters while yielding interpretable, context-aware forecasts aligned with public-health decision-making.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2511.23276 by Chen Xiong, Dongmei Yu, Gong Yunhan, Ji Jiansong, Joongwon Chae, Lian Zhang, Peiwu Qin, Runming Wang.

Figure 1
Figure 1. Figure 1: Overall hierarchical neuro-symbolic architecture for HFMD forecasting. Agent 1 interprets heterogeneous [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: One-step-ahead forecasts on the Hong Kong HFMD dataset (2023–2024, 90 weeks) across all models. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p023_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: One-step-ahead forecasts on the Lishui HFMD dataset (33 weeks) across all models. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p024_3.png] view at source ↗

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