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Learning neuro-symbolic convergent term rewriting systems

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Pith's one-line read A neuro-symbolic architecture that mirrors the rewrite algorithm can learn to simplify formulas far beyond the depth seen in training, with a faster variant matching or beating strong LLM baselines on the hardest out-of-distribution cases.

desk verdict FastNRS is a solid, efficient extension of the authors' NRS with genuinely strong multi-domain results, but the OOD evaluation protocol needs explicit separation between validation and test, and variance is not reported. read the letter →

arxiv 2507.19372 v1 pith:ITEANM6N submitted 2025-07-25 cs.AI cs.LG

classification cs.AIcs.LG MSC 68T0768Q42
keywords neuro-symbolicartificialintelligenceconvergenttermrewritingsystemsout-of-distributiongeneralizationlengthtransformerformulasimplificationalgorithmiclearningmulti-task
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The pith

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The reading

This paper argues that neural networks can learn to execute convergent term rewriting systems—the rule-based simplification procedures that reduce nested mathematical formulas to a single atomic value—if the architecture's modules are wired to mirror the algorithm itself. The authors present two implementations, NRS and FastNRS, both built from three modules: a Selector that finds a solvable leaf sub-expression, a Solver that evaluates it, and a Combiner that splices the value back into the formula. They claim that with label-based positional encodings and a narrow self-attention window in the Selector, both systems generalize to out-of-distribution formulas far deeper than those seen in training, and that FastNRS does so with orders-of-magnitude improvements in memory and speed. The value of showing this is that systematic generalization to novel, longer inputs—a known weakness of standard transformers and large language models—may be obtained by architectural inductive bias rather than by scaling parameters or data.

What carries the argument

The central object is the convergent term rewriting system, a set of rewrite rules that reduce any formula to the same final atomic value regardless of the order in which rules are applied, with no loops. The machinery that carries the argument is the decomposition of that algorithm into three modules: the Selector, which finds a reducible leaf formula (a sub-expression all of whose arguments are atomic values); the Solver, which maps that leaf formula to its equivalent atomic value; and the Combiner, which replaces the leaf with the value in the original formula. Two architectural choices in the Selector do most of the work: label-based positional encodings, in which the positions assigned to tokens are randomly sampled and sorted rather than fixed, acting as a data-augmentation mechanism; and a restricted self-attention receptive field that keeps each token's attention inside a narrow diagonal window (with best results at $k=1$), reflecting the premise that identifying a solvable leaf is a purely local problem. FastNRS further replaces the neural Combiner with a deterministic function and implements selection as a per-token binary classification, which produces its large gains in speed and memory.

What would settle it

Take the arithmetic domain and introduce a rewrite rule that is only applicable when a marker token appears at the far left of the formula (e.g., a flag that toggles whether $(a+b)$ may be simplified). Train the FastNRS Selector with $k=1$ on in-distribution examples with the flag near the leaf, then test on out-of-distribution examples where the flag is many tokens away; if OOD accuracy falls while a full-attention selector retains accuracy, the locality assumption on which the architecture depends is refuted.

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Core claim

The central claim is that convergent term rewriting systems can be learned from data by a neuro-symbolic architecture whose computation mirrors the rewrite algorithm itself, rather than by a single end-to-end sequence-to-sequence mapping. The blueprint has three steps—locate a leaf formula (a sub-expression whose arguments are all atomic), reduce that leaf to its atomic value, and substitute the value back—and each step is assigned to a dedicated neural module (Selector, Solver, Combiner). The paper's key design claim is that the Selector determines out-of-distribution generalization: by training it to identify the last solvable leaf formula using label-based positional encodings and a diagonal self-attention window of width $2k+1$ with $k=1$, the system extrapolates to formulas tens of tokens longer than those seen in training. FastNRS re-formulates selection as a per-token binary text-segmentation task, allowing multiple leaf formulas to be selected in parallel and making the Combiner deterministic, at the cost of a small accuracy gap in some domains. On four benchmark domains (logic, ListOps, arithmetic, and algebra), the paper reports that both systems match or exceed the accuracy of the Neural Data Router, GPT-4, and o1-preview on the hardest out-of-distribution formulas.

Load-bearing premise

The load-bearing premise is that finding a solvable sub-expression inside a formula is a purely local problem, so a selector with a narrow diagonal attention window ($k=1$) can identify leaf formulas in inputs far longer than training examples; if any domain required distant context to locate reducible sub-expressions, the selector would fail on out-of-distribution inputs.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • A model trained on nesting levels 1–3 of arithmetic and algebra simplifies formulas of depth 5–6, and logic formulas up to depth 12, with sequence accuracy the paper reports as comparable to or higher than o1-preview on the hardest out-of-distribution splits.
  • FastNRS cuts inference time by roughly three orders of magnitude on the multi-domain test suite (3m42s vs 51h48m for NRS on the same samples per nesting level), with a small to zero accuracy cost depending on the domain.
  • The same architecture, without task-specific additions, learns four different term rewriting systems simultaneously in multi-domain training, and multi-domain training often reduces selector errors on arithmetic and algebra.
  • The comparison with GPT-4 and o1-preview suggests that parameter count alone does not drive systematic out-of-distribution generalization in formula simplification; architectural bias toward local rewrite steps can close the gap.
  • Selector errors dominate NRS failures at deeper nesting levels (the 'missing' class), while FastNRS never fails to extract at least one valid leaf in any iteration, which the paper credits for its accuracy advantage on deep arithmetic formulas.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Because the paper tunes hyperparameters, including the self-attention window width, using the OOD validation set (Section 5.2.1), the reported OOD accuracies are selection-filtered estimates; the unbiased expected OOD performance would require fitting hyperparameters on in-distribution data only before evaluation.
  • The locality premise behind the $k=1$ window suggests a concrete next test: add a rewrite rule whose applicability depends on non-adjacent tokens (e.g., a variable bound at an outer scope) and measure whether OOD accuracy collapses; if it does, the framework would need a new selector design, as the paper's future-work section anticipates.
  • The paper's stated limitation that the algorithmic blueprint is designed a priori implies the framework is a compiler for a class of algorithms rather than a learner of algorithms; a natural extension is to make the module decomposition itself differentiable so the blueprint is inferred from data, and to benchmark that variant on the same four domains.
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Referee Report

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Summary. The paper proposes a neuro-symbolic framework for learning convergent term rewriting systems for mathematical formula simplification. It presents two implementations, NRS and FastNRS, which decompose the rewriting loop into Selector, Solver, and Combiner modules. The Selector uses label-based positional encodings and a restricted diagonal self-attention window to identify leaf formulas; FastNRS recasts selection as text segmentation, enabling parallel leaf extraction and a deterministic conditional replacement step. The models are evaluated on logic, ListOps, arithmetic, and algebra, in both single-domain and multi-domain settings, against the Neural Data Router, GPT-4, and o1-preview. The central claims are strong out-of-distribution generalization, particularly at deeper nesting levels, and large efficiency gains for FastNRS in memory, training time, and inference time.

Significance. If the empirical results are reliable, the work would be significant: it shows that small, purpose-built neural modules with local attention can learn to execute rewrite procedures and generalize to formulas substantially deeper than those seen in training, outperforming large general-purpose LLMs on the hardest tested instances while using far fewer parameters. The architectural blueprint explicitly mirrors the rewriting algorithm, and the modular design supports multi-domain training without task-specific heads. The paper also includes useful ablations of self-attention window width and depth (Appendix B.1.1), detailed hyperparameter tables, and an error-type decomposition. However, the headline OOD generalization claim is currently weakened by the use of the OOD validation set for model selection and threshold tuning, the absence of error bars or seed variance despite test sets of only 100 samples per level, and sensitivity to inference-time thresholds. These issues must be addressed before the OOD claims can be taken at face value.

major comments (3)
  1. [Section 5.2.1, Section 6.5, Tables B.6-B.8] The OOD generalization claim is compromised by model selection on the OOD validation set. Section 5.2.1 states that a 'distinct OOD validation set featuring formulas with higher structural complexity' (nesting levels 4-6) was 'used for model selection,' and Section 6.5 evaluates the Selector's 'out-of-distribution generalization' on that same OOD validation set. Because hyperparameters (Tables B.6-B.8), early stopping, the FastNRS confidence thresholds, and the NRS dynamic windowing threshold T (Section 5.2.1) were chosen with access to OOD-validation performance, the reported OOD test accuracy in Figures 3-4 is a transductively selected estimate rather than an unbiased measure of generalization to an unseen distribution. The Section 6.5 claim of 'almost indistinguishable convergence trends on in- and out-of-distribution instances' is based on the same OOD validation set, so it is not independent evidence. Please re-run the selection procedure using only in-distribution validation data, or report both protocols so the magnitude of the leakage can be assessed.
  2. [Section 6, Figures 3-4] No variance or error bars are reported despite test sets of only 100 formulas per nesting level. The text says 'We observed non-significative variance across runs, which we therefore do not report.' With n=100, a 90% accuracy has a standard error of roughly 3 percentage points, so many observed differences (e.g., FastNRS vs NRS on arithmetic in Figure 3c, and several NRS/o1-preview comparisons in Figure 4) are within the range of sampling noise. The claims of 'significant improvements' and 'consistently achieved equal or higher accuracy' require either multiple seeds with confidence intervals or some other statistical support. Please provide per-seed results or error bars for the main test sets.
  3. [Section 4.2.3, Section 5.2.1, Appendices C-D] The reported accuracy depends on inference-time thresholds that are tuned rather than architectural guarantees. The FastNRS cond_repl confidence threshold is set based on the distribution of Solver confidence on training samples (Section 5.2.1, Appendix D), and the NRS dynamic windowing threshold T is chosen by examining average Selector confidence on both in-distribution and OOD validation sets (Appendix C). These thresholds directly determine whether a candidate leaf is replaced or the computation is aborted, and they are free parameters of the evaluation. The paper should report sensitivity to these thresholds and, ideally, demonstrate that the OOD advantage is not primarily a consequence of threshold selection.
minor comments (6)
  1. [Abstract, Section 7] The abstract's 'general framework' is broader than what is actually implemented: Section 7 acknowledges that rewriting rules must operate on local substrings and that the algorithmic blueprint is predefined by the designer. Please adjust the wording to make the scope explicit in the abstract and title.
  2. [Section 6.2] The text refers to 'the previously proposed Neural Deductive Reasoner (NDR)', but the baseline is the Neural Data Router (Csordás et al., 2022). This appears to be a naming error.
  3. [Section 6.2, Figure 4] Section 6.2 states that o1-preview was benchmarked only on out-of-distribution data splits, but Figure 4 appears to show o1-preview results on both IID and OOD splits. Please clarify the legend or the text so the reader knows exactly which splits each model was evaluated on.
  4. [Abstract, Section 5.2.3, Table E.10] The model is called GPT-4o in the Abstract but GPT-4 in Section 5.2.3 and Table E.10. Please use a single name consistently.
  5. [Section 6, Appendix C] The phrase 'non-significative variance' is nonstandard; use 'no significant variance.' Also, the Appendix C figure captions contain the typo 'Input Lenght' instead of 'Input Length.'
  6. [General] The paper does not state whether the code and data will be released. Given the large number of hyperparameters and the modular pipelines, a public implementation would substantially aid reproducibility.

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No circularity found: the reported results are empirical comparisons on held-out test sets, and no load-bearing claim reduces by construction or self-citation to its inputs.

full rationale

The paper is an empirical evaluation, not a derivation, so there is no definitional equivalence between inputs and outputs. The central claim that NRS and FastNRS generalize out-of-distribution is supported by test-set accuracy reported in Section 6 (Figures 3 and 4), where test sets are described as distinct from training and validation splits (Section 6: 'The test sets on which all models are evaluated are composed of 100 formulas per nesting level'). The use of an OOD validation set for model selection (Section 5.2.1: 'we also developed a distinct OOD validation set featuring formulas with higher structural complexity, using this set for model selection') is a methodological caveat that may inflate OOD estimates, but it is not circular: the reported test accuracy is a different quantity from the OOD validation accuracy, and the comparisons against NDR, GPT-4, and o1-preview are external. Section 7 explicitly disclaims that the system learns the rewriting algorithm itself, which narrows the framework claim but does not make the results equivalent to the input. The only self-citations (e.g., Petruzzellis et al., 2024c, for the earlier NRS) are descriptive rather than load-bearing, as the present paper fully specifies the architecture. No fitted parameter is renamed as a prediction, and no claim reduces by construction to its own evidence.

Assumptions & free parameters 4 free parameters · 5 assumptions · 0 invented entities

The central claims rest on the convergent rewriting formalization, the locality of leaf selection, and the transfer of Solver rules to OOD formulas. The fitted thresholds and OOD-tuned hyperparameters are the main free parameters. No new physical or conceptual entities are introduced.

free parameters (4)
  • Dynamic windowing threshold T = 150 (ListOps, Algebra), 125 (Arithmetic), unused (Logic)
    Chosen by inspecting average Selector confidence versus input length; changes inference behavior for NRS on long inputs.
  • Solver confidence threshold for FastNRS cond_repl = -6 (ListOps), -2 (Arithmetic), -3 (Algebra), -0.005 (Logic)
    Fit to training-set confidence distributions; controls which Solver outputs are accepted, directly affecting accuracy.
  • Self-attention window width k = 1 (FastNRS Selector); 2 or 3 (NRS Selector)
    Tuned by random search; k=1 gave best OOD accuracy and is the core inductive bias for locality.
  • Hyperparameters selected on OOD validation = Various (embedding size, layers, learning rate, dropout; see Appendix B tables)
    Model selection used the OOD validation set, which biases the reported OOD test numbers.
assumptions (5)
  • domain assumption Every formula in the problem class is convergent: f = o(a1,...,an) = e with a unique atomic final value.
    Section 3 defines formula simplification problems via convergent term rewriting systems; if confluent termination fails, the Selector-Solver-Combiner loop may not terminate.
  • domain assumption All rewriting rules act on leaf formulas, i.e., formulas whose arguments are all atomic elements.
    Section 3 restricts rules to F_L; the architecture assumes the problem decomposes into selecting leaves, solving them, and replacing them.
  • ad hoc to paper Leaf identification is a local problem solvable with a diagonal attention window.
    Section 4.1.1 states that identifying leaf formulas is a local problem that can be solved without integrating distant tokens; this is the basis for the restricted attention that drives OOD generalization.
  • domain assumption Input formulas are syntactically correct.
    Section 4.1.1 states the Selector assumes inputs to always be syntactically correct; the system is not designed to handle malformed inputs.
  • domain assumption Solver training on leaf formulas from shallow formulas transfers to leaves appearing in deeper formulas.
    The Solver is trained on leaf formulas and atomic values only; leaves in OOD formulas are assumed to come from the same distribution of operations and operands.

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Building neural systems that can learn to execute symbolic algorithms is a challenging open problem in artificial intelligence, especially when aiming for strong generalization and out-of-distribution performance. In this work, we introduce a general framework for learning convergent term rewriting systems using a neuro-symbolic architecture inspired by the rewriting algorithm itself. We present two modular implementations of such architecture: the Neural Rewriting System (NRS) and the Fast Neural Rewriting System (FastNRS). As a result of algorithmic-inspired design and key architectural elements, both models can generalize to out-of-distribution instances, with FastNRS offering significant improvements in terms of memory efficiency, training speed, and inference time. We evaluate both architectures on four tasks involving the simplification of mathematical formulas and further demonstrate their versatility in a multi-domain learning scenario, where a single model is trained to solve multiple types of problems simultaneously. The proposed system significantly outperforms two strong neural baselines: the Neural Data Router, a recent transformer variant specifically designed to solve algorithmic problems, and GPT-4o, one of the most powerful general-purpose large-language models. Moreover, our system matches or outperforms the latest o1-preview model from OpenAI that excels in reasoning benchmarks.

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Figure 1. Schematic representations of the NRS and FastNRS architectures. Both archi [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p010_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Visual representation of the simplification process of samples from the training [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p020_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Performance of FastNRS, NRS, and NDR on each domain. Sequence accuracy [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p025_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: Performance of multi-domain models: GPT-4, o1-preview, FastNRS and NRS [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p026_4.png]
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Figure 5. Figure 5: Breakdown of NRS errors by type in single- and multi-domain settings. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p029_5.png]
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Figure 6. Figure 6: Breakdown of FastNRS errors by type in single- and multi-domain settings. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p029_6.png]
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Figure 7. Figure 7: FastNRS Selector accuracy during training on the text segmentation task. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p031_7.png]

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