Dissipation concentration in two-dimensional fluids
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The dissipation in the inviscid limit of two-dimensional incompressible fluids is Lebesgue in time and absolutely continuous with respect to the defect measure of strong compactness for almost every time.
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Core claim
The dissipation measure arising in the inviscid limit of two-dimensional incompressible fluids is Lebesgue in time. For almost every time it is absolutely continuous with respect to the defect measure of strong compactness of the solutions. When the initial vorticity is a measure, the dissipation is absolutely continuous with respect to a quadratic space-time vorticity measure. This measure is trivial if the initial vorticity has a singular part of distinguished sign, and it is spatially purely atomic if wild oscillations in time are ruled out. The dynamics at the Batchelor-Kraichnan dissipative scale are the only ones that matter, which yields new criteria for anomalous dissipation.
What carries the argument
The defect measure of strong compactness of the solutions, which records the lack of strong compactness and serves as the reference measure for the absolute continuity of the dissipation measure.
If this is right
- The dissipation concentrates only at the Batchelor-Kraichnan dissipative scale.
- New criteria for the presence or absence of anomalous dissipation follow directly from the absolute continuity statement.
- When the initial vorticity has a singular part of distinguished sign the dissipation measure is the zero measure.
- If wild time oscillations are absent the dissipation measure is spatially purely atomic.
- Quantitative rates of dissipation and the life-span of dissipation can be read off from the defect measure.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- If the defect measure vanishes then strong compactness holds and anomalous dissipation is ruled out.
- The same absolute-continuity relation might be tested in numerical approximations of the Euler equations with rough initial data.
- The result links compactness-based arguments in fluid dynamics to the study of measure-valued solutions for other conservation laws.
Load-bearing premise
The solutions to the Euler equations are assumed to possess a well-defined defect measure capturing the lack of strong compactness.
What would settle it
A concrete solution or numerical example in which the dissipation measure fails to be absolutely continuous with respect to the defect measure on a set of times of positive measure.
read the original abstract
We study the dissipation measure arising in the inviscid limit of two-dimensional incompressible fluids. It is proved that the dissipation is Lebesgue in time and, for almost every time, it is absolutely continuous with respect to the defect measure of strong compactness of the solutions. When the initial vorticity is a measure, the dissipation is proved to be absolutely continuous with respect to a ''quadratic'' space-time vorticity measure. This results into the trivial measure if the initial vorticity has singular part of distinguished sign, or a spatially purely atomic measure if wild oscillations in time are ruled out. In fact, the dynamics at the Batchelor-Kraichnan dissipative scale is the only relevant one, in turn offering new criteria for anomalous dissipation. We provide kinematic examples highlighting the strengths and the limitations of our approach. Quantitative rates, dissipation life-span and steady fluids are also investigated.
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Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript studies the dissipation measure arising in the inviscid limit of two-dimensional incompressible fluids. It proves that the dissipation is Lebesgue in time and, for almost every time, absolutely continuous with respect to the defect measure of strong compactness of the solutions. When the initial vorticity is a measure, the dissipation is absolutely continuous with respect to a quadratic space-time vorticity measure, yielding a trivial measure if the singular part has distinguished sign or a spatially purely atomic measure if wild time oscillations are ruled out. The dynamics at the Batchelor-Kraichnan dissipative scale are identified as the only relevant ones, providing new criteria for anomalous dissipation. Kinematic examples, quantitative rates, dissipation life-span, and steady fluids are also investigated.
Significance. If the central claims hold, the work provides a measure-theoretic link between anomalous dissipation and compactness defects in 2D Euler flows, with concrete consequences for measure-valued initial data and scale-specific criteria. The kinematic examples and quantitative results add concrete value for testing the approach.
major comments (1)
- [Abstract and defect-measure construction (near the statement of the main absolute-continuity result)] Abstract and the paragraph introducing the defect measure: the absolute continuity of the dissipation measure μ with respect to the defect measure ν of strong compactness is load-bearing for the main theorems. The argument invokes ν directly to conclude that dμ/dν exists a.e. in time, but requires explicit verification that ν (constructed via the approximating viscous sequence) captures all relevant non-compactness, including possible additional singular contributions from time oscillations at the Batchelor-Kraichnan scale. Without this, the absolute-continuity step risks being incomplete for the specific sequences used.
minor comments (2)
- [Abstract] The abstract places 'quadratic' in quotes for the space-time vorticity measure; a short inline definition or forward reference to its precise construction would improve readability.
- [Kinematic examples] In the kinematic-examples section, explicit formulas or numerical values for the dissipation and defect measures in each example would make the strengths and limitations easier to verify.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the careful reading and constructive comments on our manuscript. The major comment concerning the defect measure construction and absolute continuity is addressed point-by-point below. We have revised the manuscript to incorporate additional clarification on this issue.
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Referee: Abstract and the paragraph introducing the defect measure: the absolute continuity of the dissipation measure μ with respect to the defect measure ν of strong compactness is load-bearing for the main theorems. The argument invokes ν directly to conclude that dμ/dν exists a.e. in time, but requires explicit verification that ν (constructed via the approximating viscous sequence) captures all relevant non-compactness, including possible additional singular contributions from time oscillations at the Batchelor-Kraichnan scale. Without this, the absolute-continuity step risks being incomplete for the specific sequences used.
Authors: We thank the referee for this observation. The defect measure ν is constructed directly from the viscous approximating sequence as the weak-* limit of the quadratic defect measures associated with the failure of strong compactness (specifically, the difference between the viscous vorticity and its weak limit in appropriate spaces). By definition, ν therefore encodes the total non-compactness of the given sequence, which necessarily includes any contributions arising from time oscillations at the Batchelor-Kraichnan dissipative scale—the scale identified in the paper as the only relevant one for dissipation concentration. Consequently, there are no additional singular contributions from this scale that lie outside ν. The absolute continuity of the dissipation measure μ with respect to ν then follows from the Radon-Nikodym theorem applied to these space-time measures. To address the concern explicitly, we have added a clarifying sentence in the paragraph introducing the defect measure (near the statement of the main absolute-continuity result) confirming that the construction via the viscous sequence already accounts for all such non-compactness effects at the dissipative scale. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No circularity detected; derivation relies on standard measure-theoretic compactness arguments
full rationale
The paper derives properties of the dissipation measure from the assumed existence of a defect measure capturing lack of strong compactness in solutions to the 2D Euler equations. This is a standard assumption in the field for weak solutions, and the absolute continuity statements follow from analysis of these measures without any reduction to fitted parameters, self-definitional loops, or load-bearing self-citations. The quadratic space-time vorticity measure for measure-valued initial data is constructed via the paper's own compactness arguments rather than imported by ansatz or renaming. The approach is self-contained against external benchmarks in PDE theory, with no evidence of predictions that are forced by construction.
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axioms (2)
- domain assumption The fluid is incompressible and the velocity field satisfies the Euler equations in the inviscid limit.
- domain assumption Sequences of solutions admit a defect measure that quantifies failure of strong compactness.
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Theorem 1.1 … Dt ≪ Λt for a.e. t ∈ [0,T]. … Theorem 1.6 … lim ν→0 Sν₂(√ν)=0 ⇔ lim ν→0 ν∫‖∇uν‖²=0
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Corollary 1.4 … Dt concentrated on Lt ∩ Ot … when |ων|⊗|ων| ⇀ γt⊗γt
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