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Cause-aware detectors on ASR latents classify token errors into perception, comprehension, and deletion to enable precise LLM clarifications.

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load-bearing objection The paper proposes cause-aware detectors on ASR latents for three error types to drive targeted clarification, but the reported results only show aggregate recall gains without per-class evidence. the 2 major comments →

arxiv 2605.25404 v1 pith:JVUZA7LW submitted 2026-05-25 cs.CL eess.AS

Proactive for Uncertainty: Cause-Aware Error Diagnosis and Interactive Clarification for Spoken Dialogue Systems

Yizhou Peng , Ziyang Ma , Changsong Liu , Yi-Wen Chao , Xie Chen , Eng Siong Chng This is my paper
classification cs.CL eess.AS
keywords spoken dialogue systemsASR error diagnosisinteractive clarificationcascaded ASR-LLMerror recoveryword error ratedomain shift
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The paper introduces detectors that analyze deep representations from automatic speech recognition to identify the specific cause of each transcription error. Traditional systems only use confidence scores, which miss many problems and cannot guide recovery. By distinguishing whether the system failed to hear, to understand, or to detect a word at all, the language model can ask the right clarifying questions. This leads to fewer overall transcription mistakes and better performance on the dialogue task across different speaking conditions.

Core claim

The authors claim that a suite of small precision-focused detectors can disentangle token-level ASR errors into perception, comprehension, and deletion failures by exploiting deep latent representations, thereby allowing the LLM to orchestrate targeted multi-turn clarification strategies that reduce error propagation in cascaded systems.

What carries the argument

Precision-focused detectors that classify ASR token errors using deep latent representations into three failure types: perception, comprehension, and deletion.

Load-bearing premise

Deep ASR latent representations contain enough information for small detectors to accurately separate perception errors from comprehension errors and deletions.

What would settle it

An experiment showing that the detectors fail to improve error classification recall beyond baselines when applied to new unseen distortions or accents.

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If this is right

  • More than doubles recall on domain-shift errors compared to baselines (57.96% vs 23.66%).
  • Achieves up to a 30% reduction in WER.
  • Yields a 17% improvement on the downstream task.
  • Enables multi-turn clarification strategies for ambiguous signals.
  • Works across diverse accents, distortions, and domains.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

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  • Similar detectors could apply to other cascaded AI pipelines to distinguish error types for better recovery.
  • Real-world use would require checking whether added detector computation is offset by fewer failed dialogues.
  • The approach could extend to predicting how users respond to the generated clarifications.
  • It might reduce reliance on fully end-to-end models by strengthening modular pipelines.

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Referee Report

2 major / 1 minor

Summary. The paper proposes a cause-aware error recovery paradigm for cascaded ASR-LLM spoken dialogue systems. Small precision-focused detectors exploit deep ASR latent representations to classify token-level transcription errors into perception, comprehension, and deletion failures. These diagnostics enable the LLM to apply targeted multi-turn clarification strategies instead of simple confidence filtering. Experiments report more than doubling recall on domain-shift errors (57.96% vs. 23.66% vs. baselines), yielding up to 30% WER reduction and 17% improvement on downstream tasks across accents, distortions, and domains.

Significance. If the three-way error disentanglement is shown to be reliable and the gains are reproducible with proper controls, the work could meaningfully advance robustness techniques for industrial SDS by replacing coarse confidence thresholds with cause-specific recovery. The emphasis on deep ASR latents for fine-grained diagnosis is a natural extension of existing confidence modeling.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract / Results] Abstract and results: the central claim that the three-way disentanglement (perception/comprehension/deletion) drives the reported WER and downstream gains rests on the detectors reliably separating these categories, yet only aggregate domain-shift recall is provided (57.96% vs. 23.66%). No per-class precision, recall, or confusion matrix for the three error types is referenced, nor any ablation comparing three-way vs. binary error detection.
  2. [Methods] Methods / Experimental setup: the soundness assessment notes the absence of detector architectures, training procedures, dataset descriptions, and statistical significance tests. Without these, it is impossible to evaluate whether the deep ASR latents contain sufficient information for the claimed small precision-focused detectors to perform the disentanglement.
minor comments (1)
  1. [Abstract] The abstract would benefit from a brief statement of the number of error categories, detector sizes, and evaluation datasets to allow readers to assess the scale of the empirical claims.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the constructive feedback. The comments identify areas where additional detail will strengthen the manuscript, and we will revise accordingly.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract / Results] Abstract and results: the central claim that the three-way disentanglement (perception/comprehension/deletion) drives the reported WER and downstream gains rests on the detectors reliably separating these categories, yet only aggregate domain-shift recall is provided (57.96% vs. 23.66%). No per-class precision, recall, or confusion matrix for the three error types is referenced, nor any ablation comparing three-way vs. binary error detection.

    Authors: We agree that only aggregate recall is currently reported and that per-class metrics plus an ablation would better support the central claim. We will add per-class precision/recall, a confusion matrix for the three categories, and an ablation of three-way versus binary detection in the revised manuscript. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Methods] Methods / Experimental setup: the soundness assessment notes the absence of detector architectures, training procedures, dataset descriptions, and statistical significance tests. Without these, it is impossible to evaluate whether the deep ASR latents contain sufficient information for the claimed small precision-focused detectors to perform the disentanglement.

    Authors: We concur that the manuscript omits these implementation details. The revised version will expand the Methods section with detector architectures, training procedures, dataset descriptions, and statistical significance tests for all reported gains. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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Empirical pipeline shows no circularity in derivation or results

full rationale

The paper presents a standard ML pipeline: small detectors trained on ASR latents to classify token errors into three categories, followed by LLM-driven clarification, with performance measured against external baselines on WER, recall, and downstream task metrics. No equations, self-definitional loops, fitted parameters presented as independent predictions, or load-bearing self-citations appear in the provided text. The reported gains (e.g., doubled domain-shift recall, 30% WER reduction) are experimental outcomes, not reductions to inputs by construction. The derivation chain is self-contained against external benchmarks.

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Abstract provides no explicit free parameters, background axioms, or new postulated entities; the detectors are presented as learned components without further decomposition.

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Cascaded Automatic Speech Recognition -- Large Language Model (ASR-LLM) pipelines remain popular for industrial Spoken Dialogue Systems (SDS), primarily because their decoupled design ensures perceptual verifiability. However, cascaded systems suffer from error propagation, as transcription failures inevitably cascade to subsequent components, thereby degrading the final interaction quality. Although ASR confidence scores offer a simple filter for unreliable inputs, this approach is fundamentally limited because it typically fails to detect deletion errors or to distinguish between acoustic (inability to hear clearly) and linguistic (inability to understand) mismatches, both of which require targeted recovery strategies. In this paper, we propose a cause-aware error recovery paradigm that fundamentally rethinks robustness in SDS. Unlike traditional confidence filtering, we introduce a suite of small precision-focused detectors that exploit deep ASR latent representations to disentangle token-level errors into perception, comprehension, and deletion failures. This fine-grained diagnostic intelligence empowers the LLM to orchestrate targeted, multi-turn clarification strategies, effectively transforming ambiguous signals into seamless user interactions. Experimental results validate the precision of our approach, which more than doubles the recall on domain-shift errors (57.96% vs. 23.66%) compared to baselines. Crucially, this diagnostic precision yields up to a 30% reduction in WER and a 17% improvement on the downstream task across diverse accents, distortions, and domains.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2605.25404 by Changsong Liu, Eng Siong Chng, Xie Chen, Yi-Wen Chao, Yizhou Peng, Ziyang Ma.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: Architecture of the Cause-Aware Error Detector. The Parakeet-tdt ASR backbone ( [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p003_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: The complete Cause-Aware Error Recovery pipeline. The process begins with the User’s initial inquiry, [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: WERR performance of 3-round Clarification [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p008_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: Confusion matrices showing classification performance for distortion events. (a) Frame-level predictions [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p017_4.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 5. Figure 5: Theoretical performance limits of the 3-round clarification loop under ideal feedback conditions (bypassing the user simulator’s TTS/ASR). We were done so. <del> we were <unknown>done</unknown> <unknown>so.</unknown> (WER=66.7%) I didn’t catch the first part —could you repeat that bit (maybe a little closer to the mic), and also did you mean “we were done” or “we were down,” and is the last word “so,” “soo… view at source ↗
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Figure 6. Figure 6: A failed case of iterative clarification. The [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p018_6.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 7. Figure 7: A good case of iterative clarification. The groundtruth of the user input is: Gary, the question came up [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p019_7.png] view at source ↗

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