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Is thermography a viable solution for detecting pressure injuries in dark skin patients?

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Pith's one-line read A CNN trained on thermal images detects temperature changes and erythema in dark skin more reliably than optical images, with perfect cooling-task scores and an AUC above 0.93 for erythema.

desk verdict Genuinely useful new dataset, but the image-level split invalidates the headline AUC/F1; needs participant-level evaluation before the robustness claim can stand. read the letter →

arxiv 2411.10627 v1 pith:N3X35YYF submitted 2024-11-15 cs.CV cs.AI

classification cs.CVcs.AI
keywords pressureinjurydetectionthermographythermalimagingdarkskintoneserythemaMobileNetV2convolutionalneuralnetworkimageclassification
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The reading

This paper tests whether thermography can replace visual inspection for early pressure-injury detection in dark skin, where redness is hard to see. The authors collected a new dataset of 35 participants, predominantly with dark skin tones, and induced temperature changes and erythema on the lower back under varied imaging protocols. They trained a small convolutional neural network on thermal and optical images for two binary tasks, cooling detection and erythema detection. The thermal-trained model achieved perfect scores on the cooling task and outperformed the optical model on erythema, suggesting that thermography is a viable, pigment-independent route to pressure-injury screening.

What carries the argument

The central object is MobileNetV2, a compact convolutional neural network with 19 residual bottleneck layers, fine-tuned from ImageNet pretraining with a fixed learning rate and Adam optimizer. The argument runs through the dataset: thermal and optical images of the lower back from 35 healthy adults spanning four Eumelanin skin-tone categories, with temperature changes induced by a cooled stone and a cupping device, and acquisition varied by camera, lighting, distance, and pose. Thermal images carry the temperature difference directly, whereas optical images carry color that melanin masks; the network is trained separately on optical, grayscale thermal, and color thermal images so the two representations can be compared on identical binary classification tasks and test splits.

What would settle it

Re-run the same MobileNetV2 pipeline with a participant-level split so that all images from one person are kept in either training or testing, and compare the cooling and erythema AUC and F1 to Table 1; if the thermal advantage shrinks or the absolute scores fall substantially, the reported robustness is an artifact of image-level leakage.

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Core claim

The central claim is that a thermography-based CNN is robust to data collection protocols for all skin tones and detects induced temperature changes and erythema in darker skin more reliably than optical images. On the cooling task, MobileNetV2 reaches an AUC and F1 of 1.0 with both grayscale and color thermal images, versus 0.818 and 0.711 with optical images. On the erythema task, the thermal models achieve an F1 of at least 0.914 and an AUC of at least 0.935, compared with 0.868 and 0.909 for optical images. The study interprets this as evidence that temperature-based imaging bypasses the melanin-related visual masking that makes visual inspection unreliable, and that strict imaging protocols may not be necessary for thermal acquisition.

Load-bearing premise

The claim rests on treating every image as an independent sample, even though dozens of images come from each participant, so the same person's images appear in both the training and test sets and the model could be recognizing participants rather than temperature changes.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • Clinical adoption of thermography for pressure-injury screening would not require strict control of lighting, camera distance, or patient pose, since thermal model performance stayed high across protocol variations.
  • Dark-skin patients, who are currently at higher risk of missed early pressure injuries, could be screened with thermal imaging instead of relying on visual redness.
  • A compact network like MobileNetV2 is light enough for bedside or portable devices, making real-time thermographic screening feasible in routine nursing workflows.
  • Thermal imaging may serve as a more reliable early-warning signal than optical imaging for erythema, the first visible sign of pressure injury, across intermediate and high eumelanin skin tones.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • A participant-level (stratified) train/test split is the natural next test: because the current split is random at the image level, images from the same participant appear in both training and testing, so the model may have learned participant identity rather than generalizable temperature patterns.
  • The erythema result is based on a single imaging protocol, so the claim of protocol robustness applies mainly to the cooling task and should be re-tested for erythema under varied lighting and distance.
  • If a patient-level split erases most of the thermal-versus-optical gap, the practical conclusion would shift from thermography being categorically better to both modalities performing similarly once identity leakage is removed, which would change the clinical recommendation.
  • A natural extension is to test on real pressure injuries rather than induced temperature changes, since real injuries involve tissue damage, moisture, and chronic inflammation that may alter thermal signatures differently than cooling or cupping.
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Referee Report

3 major / 5 minor

Summary. The paper presents a new dataset of thermal and optical images from 35 healthy adults, predominantly with darker skin tones, collected under a cooling protocol and a cupping (erythema) protocol with deliberately varied imaging conditions (camera, lighting, distance, posture). The authors fine-tune MobileNetV2 on three image modalities (optical, grayscale thermal, and color thermal) for two binary classification tasks: cooling versus control and erythema-positive versus control. They report that thermal images achieve perfect or near-perfect AUC/F1 on both tasks, while optical images perform worse, and they conclude that thermography-based CNNs are robust to data collection protocols and may be viable for pressure injury detection in dark skin. The central claim rests entirely on the test-set metrics in Table 1.

Significance. If the reported results were statistically valid, the paper would provide an important, clinically relevant comparison of thermal versus optical imaging for early pressure injury detection across darker skin tones, where visual inspection is known to be unreliable. The dataset itself, with its multi-protocol collection focused on darker skin tones, is a useful contribution. However, the manuscript's central quantitative claims are undermined by a fundamental evaluation-design flaw (participant leakage), so the significance of the current results is not established. The paper is appropriately framed as preliminary, but the evaluation methodology does not support even a preliminary conclusion about generalization to unseen patients.

major comments (3)
  1. [Section 2.2, Appendix B] The random image-level 80/20 split creates participant leakage. Each cooling participant contributes 48 images (2 cameras × 2 lighting conditions × 2 distances × 3 postures × 2 control/cool) and each erythema participant contributes 9 images. With a random split, images from the same participant appear in both training and test sets. MobileNetV2 can exploit participant-identifying cues (skin texture, background, stone placement, cupping marks, or the exact positioning of the stone) rather than learning the actual temperature or erythema signal. Consequently, the perfect AUC/F1 of 1.0 for the cooling task and the near-perfect scores for the erythema task in Table 1 cannot be interpreted as evidence of generalization to unseen patients. The authors must re-run the evaluation with a participant-level split (e.g., leave-participants-out or grouped k-fold) and report metrics with confidence intervals. This is the load-bearing issue for the paper's central claim.
  2. [Section 2.2 and Section 2.3 (Impact of Image Protocol)] The abstract and conclusion claim that the thermography-based CNN is 'robust to data collection protocols for all skin tones,' but no per-protocol or per-skin-tone statistical analysis is provided for thermal images. Table 1 gives only aggregate test-set metrics, and the protocol-level analysis in Figure 2 is restricted to misclassified optical images. The robustness claim is therefore not directly supported by the evidence; even setting aside the leakage problem, the paper does not show that the thermal model's performance is invariant across lighting, distance, and posture. Please report thermal performance stratified by each protocol factor (or a proper interaction analysis) before claiming protocol robustness.
  3. [Table 2 and Section 2.3] The per-skin-tone analysis for erythema (Table 2) consists of raw correct/incorrect counts from a single test split, with many skin-tone categories containing only 3–6 participants (Appendix A, Table 3). With this sample size, the counts cannot support the conclusion that thermography is more reliable than optical imaging 'for all skin tones' or that the InterMid category is particularly challenging. The manuscript should either provide confidence intervals or a more appropriate statistical comparison (e.g., bootstrap or mixed-effects model) and should temper the claim to reflect the exploratory nature of the results.
minor comments (5)
  1. [Section 2.2] The section header 'T ask Classification' contains a spacing typo; it should read 'Task Classification.'
  2. [Appendix A] The text uses 'lightning' where 'lighting' is intended (e.g., 'Variations in lightning, distance, cameras, and posture').
  3. [Table 3 and Figure 4] The eczema skin-tone category labels are capitalized inconsistently (e.g., 'Intermediate Mid' versus 'InterMid'), and Figure 4 is referenced but not described in the main text; please align terminology and refer to the figure explicitly.
  4. [Appendix B] The hyperparameter section states a fixed learning rate of 1 × 10^-3 but does not report the range considered in tuning; please clarify whether the learning rate was tuned or fixed.
  5. [Appendix C] The confusion matrix for the cooling task reports 174 true negatives and 169 true positives, but the test set size is stated as 343 in Table 4; this sums to 343, but the breakdown by class should be stated explicitly for reproducibility.

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No circularity found: this is a supervised benchmark with an independent test split, and the reported metrics are direct empirical evaluations.

full rationale

This paper makes no derived prediction from first principles; it reports a supervised classification benchmark on a newly collected thermal and optical dataset. MobileNetV2 is trained on an 80/20 random image split and evaluated on held-out test images, so the AUC and F1 values in Table 1 are direct measurements rather than quantities forced by construction. No fitted parameter is later renamed as a prediction, and no equation defines an output in terms of its own target. The few same-author citations, such as Bates-Jensen et al. 2024, provide background or contextual support about the weak correlation between erythema index and temperature change; they are not load-bearing for the central thermal-versus-optical comparison, and no uniqueness or ansatz is imported from prior work. The random image-level split may permit participant identity leakage and is a legitimate statistical validity concern, but that is an evaluation soundness issue, not a circularity issue. The central claim that thermal imaging outperforms optical imaging is therefore self-contained with respect to circularity.

Assumptions & free parameters 3 free parameters · 4 assumptions · 0 invented entities

The central empirical claims depend on four domain assumptions: the proxy validity of induced temperature changes, the statistical independence of images from the same participant (violated by the design), the transferability of ImageNet features to thermal images, and the validity of the erythema-index ground truth. No new physical entities are introduced.

free parameters (3)
  • Erythema positive threshold = 6 c.u. above baseline
    Defined in Appendix A; determines all erythema labels and therefore every erythema accuracy number. Chosen by the authors, not derived or validated against a clinical outcome.
  • Training hyperparameters = learning rate 1e-3, batch size 32, 50 epochs, early stopping patience 10
    Hand-chosen in Appendix B; these standard hyperparameters affect all model outputs but are not the central scientific claim.
  • Data augmentation choices = horizontal flip or 20-degree rotation
    Chosen by hand in Section 2.2; they shape what invariances the model learns.
assumptions (4)
  • domain assumption Induced cooling and cupping temperature changes on healthy lower backs are a valid proxy for pressure injury-related temperature changes.
    Stated in Section 2.1: 'The controlled setup allows us to isolate temperature changes and assess whether thermography can reliably detect such changes, thus serving as a proxy for early PI detection.' If false, the study does not actually test PI detection.
  • domain assumption Images from the same participant are independent and can be randomly split across train and test.
    Implicit in the random image-level split in Section 2.2. Images from the same person appear in both sets, so this assumption is violated, causing leakage that can inflate performance.
  • domain assumption MobileNetV2 initialized with ImageNet weights transfers to thermal and optical medical images.
    Used throughout Section 2.2; no feature-analysis or transfer study is provided for the thermal modality, and thermal images differ substantially from natural images.
  • domain assumption The erythema index measured by a colorimeter is a valid ground truth for erythema, and the 6 c.u. threshold marks clinically meaningful erythema.
    Used to label all erythema images in Appendix A; the paper cites a related study (Bates-Jensen et al., 2024) finding weak correlations between erythema index and temperature changes, which weakens this assumption.

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read the original abstract

Pressure injury (PI) detection is challenging, especially in dark skin tones, due to the unreliability of visual inspection. Thermography has been suggested as a viable alternative as temperature differences in the skin can indicate impending tissue damage. Although deep learning models have demonstrated considerable promise toward reliably detecting PI, the existing work fails to evaluate the performance on darker skin tones and varying data collection protocols. In this paper, we introduce a new thermal and optical imaging dataset of 35 participants focused on darker skin tones where temperature differences are induced through cooling and cupping protocols. We vary the image collection process to include different cameras, lighting, patient pose, and camera distance. We compare the performance of a small convolutional neural network (CNN) trained on either the thermal or the optical images on all skin tones. Our preliminary results suggest that thermography-based CNN is robust to data collection protocols for all skin tones.

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Figure 1
Figure 1. Example of control images from our dataset with the 4 different skin tones. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p003_1.png] view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Bar plot of misclassified optical images based on image collection protocol. Impact of Skin Tone for Erythema Detection To better understand which skin tone categories are most susceptible to misclassification for the 3 image types, we further investigated the performance for each of the four skin tone categories [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_2.png] view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Progression of erythema in thermal image from 0 − 7 minutes post-cupping. PC de￾notes Post-Cupping, square represents the cooling spot, circle represents the erythema spot. Appendix A. Dataset Details Cupping was used to induce erythema. A total of 9 images, consisting of 1 control image and 8 other images taken from 0 to 7 minutes after cupping were captured per patient. At each timeframe, the ery￾thema index was t… view at source ↗
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Figure 4
Figure 4. Figure 4: Workflow for classifying cooling or ery￾thema images. for training are (a) batch size of 32 (b) 50 epochs (c) learning rate of 1 × e −3 and (d) early stopping (pa￾tience of 10). Adam optimizer (Kingma et al., 2020) and binary-cross entropy loss function were used. The …
Figure 5
Figure 5. Figure 5: Confusion matrix of the three image modalities in the cooling classification task. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p009_5.png]
Figure 6
Figure 6. Figure 6: Confusion matrix of the three imaging modalities used in the erythema classification task. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p009_6.png]
Figure 7
Figure 7. Figure 7: Eumelanin categories of misclassified opti￾cal cooling images. C.1. Additional Image Protocol Analysis We also assessed the protocols used in the data col￾lection process to identify which will potentially be useful for detecting PI. We analyzed the misclassi￾fied opti…

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