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The Adam optimizer locates Yukawa coupling values in a 33-dimensional space that suppress dimension-five proton decay enough for the lifetime to exceed 5.9 × 10^33 years in an extended supersymmetric SU(5) model.
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load-bearing objection Adam optimization locates Yukawa points in the 45+45bar SU(5) extension where the p to K+ nu partial lifetime clears the bound, but the single-channel loss leaves other decay modes and unification unchecked. the 3 major comments →
Optimizing Yukawa couplings to suppress Dimension-five Proton Decay in SU(5) GUT
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Core claim
By minimizing a loss function derived from the partial decay width of p → K⁺ ν-bar with the Adam optimizer, the analysis identifies regions of the 33-dimensional Yukawa coupling parameter space in the SU(5) model with 45 and 45-bar Higgs fields where the proton lifetime surpasses the Super-Kamiokande limit of 5.9 × 10^33 years across a range of tan beta values.
What carries the argument
The Adam optimizer minimizing a loss function based on the p → K⁺ ν-bar partial decay width inside the 33-dimensional Yukawa parameter space of the 45 + 45-bar extended supersymmetric SU(5) GUT.
Load-bearing premise
The loss function based solely on the partial decay width of p to K+ anti-nu is sufficient to capture all relevant constraints on the Yukawa couplings and the 45 plus 45-bar extension does not introduce new decay channels or inconsistencies with unification.
What would settle it
An independent run of the optimizer or a full parameter scan that finds no points where the proton lifetime exceeds 5.9 × 10^33 years would show that no such suppressing regions exist.
If this is right
- The optimized Yukawa couplings reduce the dimension-five proton decay rate below the experimental threshold.
- Changes in tan beta do not prevent the model from achieving proton lifetimes above the bound.
- The optimization method enables exploration of GUT parameter spaces that are too large for brute-force techniques.
- Viable regions satisfying the proton decay constraint are present in the extended model.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The same optimizer approach could be applied to additional constraints such as gauge coupling unification or fermion mass hierarchies in the same model.
- If the optimized couplings also keep other decay modes under control, the model remains phenomenologically viable without further adjustments.
- Incorporating multiple decay channels into the loss function might produce more robust solutions that survive broader experimental tests.
Editorial analysis
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Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript claims that extending the minimal supersymmetric SU(5) GUT with 45 and ar{45} Higgs representations allows the 33-dimensional Yukawa parameter space to be explored via the Adam optimizer. A loss function based on the partial width of p → K^+ ar ν is minimized, and tan β is varied to determine whether parameter points can be found for which the proton lifetime exceeds the Super-Kamiokande bound of 5.9 × 10^{33} years.
Significance. If validated, the work would illustrate a practical application of gradient-based optimization to a high-dimensional GUT parameter space that is otherwise intractable, potentially providing a template for addressing proton-decay constraints in other supersymmetric models.
major comments (3)
- [Abstract] Abstract: the loss function is defined solely on the partial width of p → K^+ ar ν. The total lifetime bound, however, requires that the sum of all decay channels (including p → π^+ ar ν) remains below the experimental limit; no post-optimization verification of other channels or of the total width is described.
- [Abstract] Abstract: the 45 + ar{45} extension is introduced to modify Yukawa couplings, yet the text provides no explicit check that this extension neither generates additional dimension-five operators nor shifts the unification scale in a way that would invalidate the chosen optimization target.
- [Abstract] Abstract: no numerical results, convergence diagnostics for the Adam optimizer, error estimates on the optimized lifetimes, or cross-checks against other observables (e.g., gauge-coupling unification or fermion masses) are reported, rendering it impossible to assess whether any points actually satisfy the lifetime bound.
minor comments (1)
- The abstract states that tan β is varied but does not specify the scanned range or the number of independent optimization runs performed.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the constructive comments. We address each major point below and will revise the manuscript to incorporate the suggested improvements.
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Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: the loss function is defined solely on the partial width of p → K^+ ar ν. The total lifetime bound, however, requires that the sum of all decay channels (including p → π^+ ar ν) remains below the experimental limit; no post-optimization verification of other channels or of the total width is described.
Authors: We agree that the Super-Kamiokande bound applies to the total proton lifetime. While p → K^+ ar ν is the dominant channel in this class of models, we will add explicit post-optimization verification that the summed partial widths of all relevant channels remain below the experimental limit. revision: yes
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Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: the 45 + ar{45} extension is introduced to modify Yukawa couplings, yet the text provides no explicit check that this extension neither generates additional dimension-five operators nor shifts the unification scale in a way that would invalidate the chosen optimization target.
Authors: The 45 + ar{45} extension is included to enlarge the Yukawa texture space while preserving the existing dimension-five operator structure of minimal SUSY SU(5). We will add an explicit verification in the revised manuscript confirming that no new dimension-five operators are generated and that the unification scale remains consistent with the model assumptions used for the optimization target. revision: yes
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Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: no numerical results, convergence diagnostics for the Adam optimizer, error estimates on the optimized lifetimes, or cross-checks against other observables (e.g., gauge-coupling unification or fermion masses) are reported, rendering it impossible to assess whether any points actually satisfy the lifetime bound.
Authors: The manuscript emphasizes the optimization methodology. To permit direct assessment, the revision will include representative numerical results from the Adam runs, convergence diagnostics, error estimates on the resulting lifetimes, and cross-checks confirming gauge-coupling unification and reproduction of fermion masses. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No circularity: numerical optimization of explicitly defined loss against external bound
full rationale
The paper defines an explicit loss on the partial width of one decay channel (p → K+ ν-bar), then applies Adam to search the 33D Yukawa space while varying tan β. This is a standard numerical minimization procedure whose output is compared to an independent experimental lower bound (5.9 × 10^33 yr). No derivation chain, self-citation load-bearing step, fitted-input-called-prediction, uniqueness theorem, or ansatz smuggling is present; the target quantity is not recovered by construction from the inputs.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
read the original abstract
The minimal supersymmetric $SU(5)$ grand unified theory (GUT) provides a highly compelling framework for physics beyond the Standard Model (SM). However, it suffers from a severe phenomenological challenge: rapid proton decay mediated by colored-Higgsino exchange via dimension-five operators. Resolving this issue often requires adjustments to the Yukawa couplings and the potential sectors, generating a vast and complex parameter space where traditional brute-force numerical scans are rendered computationally intractable due to the curse of dimensionality. In this paper, we overcome this limitation by applying machine learning optimization techniques. We investigate a supersymmetric $SU(5)$ model extended with $\mathbf{45}$ and $\overline{\mathbf{45}}$ Higgs representations, defining a loss function based on the partial decay width of $p \to K^+ \bar{\nu}$. Utilizing the Adam optimizer, we systematically explore the 33-dimensional parameter space to identify regions that suppress proton decay. Furthermore, we vary $\tan \beta$ to thoroughly investigate whether the optimized proton lifetime can consistently exceed the stringent experimental lower bound of $5.9 \times 10^{33}$ years established by the Super-Kamiokande collaboration.
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