REVIEW 2 major objections 4 minor 51 references
Existing ATLAS top-plus-b-jet measurements already limit light charged Higgs bosons decaying through an off-shell top to a few-percent product of branching ratios.
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load-bearing objection Clean first limits on the off-shell H± o t*b mode from public ATLAS ttbb data; useful complementary probe, not a field-changer. the 2 major comments →
Searching for charged Higgs bosons in top decays via the t^*b channel
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
Reinterpretation of ATLAS dileptonic ttbb fiducial measurements yields observed 95 % CL upper limits of 1.9 %–2.9 % on Br(t → H±b) imes Br(H± → t*b) for charged-Higgs masses from 110 to 165 GeV, strongest in the inclusive ≥3b region; the same limits exclude previously open parameter space in top-philic and top-specific two-Higgs-doublet models.
What carries the argument
The signal topology t t-bar → (W b)(H± b) with H± → t*b → W b b-bar, whose rate is controlled by the product of branching ratios and whose acceptance is measured inside the same four ATLAS fiducial regions used for Standard-Model ttbb studies.
Load-bearing premise
The analysis assumes that interference between the Standard-Model ttbb amplitude and the resonant charged-Higgs cascade can be neglected after integration over the fiducial phase space.
What would settle it
A dedicated ATLAS or CMS search that reconstructs the same dileptonic multi-b final state with optimized multivariate discriminants and reports a significantly weaker (or stronger) limit on the same branching-ratio product for m_H± ≈ 140 GeV.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper reinterprets ATLAS fiducial cross-section measurements of dileptonic ttbar production with additional b-jets (140 fb^{-1}, 13 TeV) to constrain light charged Higgs bosons (m_{H^\pm} < m_t) produced via the rare decay t \to H^\pm b followed by the off-shell mode H^\pm \to t^* b \to W b b-bar. This yields a ttbb-like final state. Model-independent 95% CL upper limits of 1.9%–2.9% are obtained on the product Br(t \to H^\pm b) \times Br(H^\pm \to t^* b) for masses 110–165 GeV (strongest in the inclusive \ge3b region). These are interpreted in top-philic, up-type aligned, top-specific, and canonical Z_2-symmetric 2HDM scenarios, demonstrating complementarity to existing cs, cb, and \tau\nu searches, particularly near threshold or when conventional modes are suppressed.
Significance. The work fills a genuine gap: the off-shell H^\pm \to t^* b channel, which can dominate below the tb threshold due to the large top Yukawa, has not been targeted by dedicated LHC searches. The model-independent limits are cleanly extracted from public data via a validated simulation chain (SM ttbb reproduces ATLAS Powheg+Pythia8 and data in Fig. 2) and a conservative R-fit treatment of the ~30% theory uncertainty. The subsequent 2HDM interpretations are standard and highlight concrete complementarity (e.g., low-tan\beta exclusion in the top-specific model, direct constraint in the top-philic case). The paper therefore supplies a useful, immediately usable probe of nonstandard top decays and motivates dedicated experimental analyses with Run 3/HL-LHC statistics and improved SM predictions.
major comments (2)
- [Sec. III.1] Sec. III.1 (paragraph beginning “In doing so, we neglect the interference…”): the neglect of SM–BSM interference after fiducial integration is justified only qualitatively by resonant and kinematic mismatch. Because the extracted limits rest on adding a pure signal contribution to the SM prediction, a quantitative estimate (e.g., via MadGraph interference terms or a simple virtuality-window check) is needed to confirm that residual interference remains negligible compared with the 30% theory uncertainty; otherwise the model-independent bounds carry an unquantified systematic.
- [Sec. II] Sec. II and Eq. (2): the charged-Higgs signal is generated at LO while the SM ttbb sample is NLO. Acceptance differences or K-factors for the signal topology are not discussed. Given that the limits are driven by the absolute fiducial rate, a brief assessment of the LO-to-NLO correction (or a statement that it is absorbed into the conservative theory uncertainty) would strengthen the robustness claim.
minor comments (4)
- [Fig. 3] Fig. 3 caption and surrounding text: the mass dependence of the acceptance is explained clearly, but a short sentence quantifying the acceptance variation (or a supplementary plot of A(m_{H^\pm})) would help readers assess the kinematic competition between the two decay stages.
- [Appendix A] Appendix A, Eqs. (A5)–(A7): the three-body matrix element is given in full; a brief numerical cross-check against an independent tool (e.g., MadWidth) for a benchmark mass would increase confidence in the Br(H^\pm \to t^* b) evaluation used throughout Sec. III.2.
- [Table I] Table I and Fig. 2: the four overlapping fiducial regions are treated independently (justified by theory uncertainty). A parenthetical remark on the expected size of correlations, even if not used, would complete the statistical discussion.
- [Introduction] References [25–32]: the local excesses near 152 GeV are cited as motivation. A single clarifying sentence that the present limits do not claim to exclude or confirm those excesses would avoid any ambiguity of interpretation.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity: model-independent limits are a standard recast of public ATLAS fiducial cross sections; model interpretations use textbook 2HDM widths.
full rationale
The central numerical claim (95% CL limits of 1.9–2.9% on Br(t→H±b)×Br(H±→t*b) in the inclusive ≥3b region) is obtained by generating a LO signal sample, applying the published ATLAS object and fiducial selections of Ref. [24], and comparing the resulting additional contribution against the measured fiducial cross sections after an R-fit treatment of the ~30% SM ttbb theory uncertainty. No parameter is fitted to the same data and then re-used as a prediction; the four overlapping regions are treated separately rather than combined; and interference is explicitly neglected with a kinematic argument that is independent of the extracted numbers. Subsequent translations into top-philic, up-type-aligned, top-specific and Z2-symmetric 2HDMs employ the standard partial-width formulae collected in Appendix A and the conventional Yukawa patterns of Eqs. (8)–(10) and Table II; these are not derived from the present limits. Self-citations to the authors’ earlier excess papers appear only as motivation and do not enter the limit-setting procedure. The derivation chain is therefore self-contained against external public data and standard model-building inputs.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (4)
- ad hoc to paper Interference between SM ttbb and the resonant H± cascade can be neglected after fiducial integration because of mismatched resonant structure and kinematics.
- domain assumption SM ttbb theory uncertainty is ~30% and is treated by the R-fit prescription (SM prediction free to float inside the band).
- domain assumption Additional neutral scalars are heavy enough that they do not open extra charged-Higgs decay modes.
- domain assumption Standard Model top-pair production cross section is 832±49 pb at 13 TeV for mt=172.5 GeV (NNLO).
read the original abstract
Rare top-quark decays offer a sensitive probe of charged Higgs bosons with masses below the top mass, owing to the large $t\bar t$ production rate at the LHC and the distinctive final states involving leptons and $b$-jets. While existing searches target the $H^\pm\to \tau\nu$, $cs$, and $cb$ modes, the decay $H^\pm\to tb$ has been studied only for heavier charged Higgs bosons with an on-shell top quark in the final state. The low-mass off-shell channel $H^\pm\to t^*b$ therefore remains essentially unconstrained, even though it can become the dominant decay mode below the top-quark threshold owing to the large top Yukawa coupling. We study charged-Higgs production from the rare top decay $t\to H^\pm b$, followed by the decay $H^\pm\to t^*b$. Top-antitop production and decay hence give rise to a $t\bar t b\bar b$-like final state, which we constrain by reinterpreting recent ATLAS fiducial measurements in dileptonic events. We obtain model-independent limits of 1.9%-2.9% on the product of branching ratios ${\rm Br}(t\to H^\pm b)\times{\rm Br}(H^\pm\to t^*b)$ for charged-Higgs masses between 110 and 165 GeV, and interpret these bounds in several two-Higgs-doublet scenarios. While dedicated searches for conventional charged-Higgs decays dominate for canonical $Z_2$-symmetric models, the $t^*b$ reinterpretation becomes competitive near the top-quark threshold in the up-type aligned limit and provides relevant direct constraint in a top-philic scenario. In the top-specific Two-Higgs-Doublet Model, it additionally excludes a low-$\tan\beta$ region not covered by conventional searches. These results thus establish $t\bar t$ production with additional $b$-jets as a complementary probe of light charged Higgs bosons and nonstandard top-quark decays, and motivate dedicated analyses by the LHC collaborations.
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