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arxiv: 2605.22108 · v1 · pith:OGC3WVASnew · submitted 2026-05-21 · ✦ hep-ph

MAcNLOPS for ZZ Pair Production at the LHC

Yuxiao Che , Rikkert Frederix This is my paper

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keywords ZZ productionMAcNLOPSMC@NLOnegative weightsparton shower matchingLHCdiboson observablesNLO accuracy
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MAcNLOPS removes all negative hard-emission weights for ZZ production by vetoing the first shower emission in soft events.

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This paper implements the MAcNLOPS matching prescription for proton-proton collisions producing a pair of Z bosons at the LHC. Starting from a standard MC@NLO event sample, the approach eliminates negative-weight hard events and compensates by applying a veto to the first emission in the shower for soft events. Validation shows agreement with the original MC@NLO for both radiation-sensitive and inclusive observables, aside from a small discrepancy at very low transverse momentum. The technique eliminates negative hard weights at negligible extra computational cost while leaving soft-event weights unchanged.

Core claim

MAcNLOPS matching for ZZ production removes negative H events from the MC@NLO sample and compensates exactly by vetoing the first shower emission in the remaining S events, achieving NLO accuracy with a reduced fraction of negative weights.

What carries the argument

The veto on the first shower emission of S events, which compensates for the removal of negative H events.

Load-bearing premise

The veto applied to the first shower emission of the S events exactly compensates for the removed negative H events, with any mismatch limited to a small power-suppressed contribution in the very low-pT region.

What would settle it

A detailed comparison of the transverse momentum distribution of the ZZ system at very low pT showing a discrepancy larger than expected from power-suppressed terms would falsify the exact compensation assumption.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2605.22108 by Rikkert Frederix, Yuxiao Che.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: Schematic event-generation workflow used for the MAcNLOPS implementation. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: The distributions for the transverse momentum of the final-state parton in the [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: Histograms showing the separate effects of removing negative [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: Histograms for the distribution of the transverse momentum of the [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p008_4.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 5. Figure 5: Histograms for Z boson pair transverse momentum (left) and difference in azimuthal angle of the ZZ-pair (right) for MAcNLOPS, with MC@NLO and showered with Pythia8. Logarithmic binning is employed to emphasize the soft region. In [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p008_5.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 6. Figure 6: Histograms for invariant mass (left) and rapidity separation (right) of the [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p009_6.png] view at source ↗
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We present an implementation of the MAcNLOPS matching prescription for $pp \to ZZ$ production in a MadGraph5_aMC@NLO + Pythia8 setup. Starting from a standard MC@NLO event sample, negative H events are removed and compensated by a veto applied to the first shower emission of the S events. The implementation is validated against MC@NLO for radiation-sensitive and inclusive diboson observables. Agreement is found up to a rather small power-suppressed contribution affecting the very low-pT region. The method removes all negative H weights with negligible additional computational cost, while negative S weights are left unchanged, showing that MAcNLOPS is a promising alternative to MC@NLO with a reduced fraction of negative weights.

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Referee Report

2 major / 1 minor

Summary. The paper presents an implementation of the MAcNLOPS matching prescription for pp → ZZ production in a MadGraph5_aMC@NLO + Pythia8 setup. Starting from a standard MC@NLO event sample, negative H events are removed and compensated by a veto applied to the first shower emission of the S events. The implementation is validated against MC@NLO for radiation-sensitive and inclusive diboson observables, with agreement reported up to a small power-suppressed contribution at very low pT. The method eliminates all negative H weights at negligible additional cost while leaving negative S weights unchanged.

Significance. If the result holds, the work is significant for LHC phenomenology because ZZ production is an important background for Higgs studies and new-physics searches; reducing the negative-weight fraction improves Monte Carlo efficiency without altering the underlying NLO accuracy. The approach provides a concrete, low-overhead alternative to standard MC@NLO that preserves inclusive and differential observables except in a limited kinematic corner.

major comments (2)
  1. [Validation section] Validation section: the reported agreement with MC@NLO is stated for radiation-sensitive and inclusive observables, but no quantitative measures (e.g., relative differences, integrated discrepancies, or error bands on the low-pT region) are provided. This leaves the size of the claimed power-suppressed mismatch unquantified and weakens the ability to judge whether the veto exactly restores the subtracted real-emission contribution for ZZ kinematics including Z-decay interference.
  2. [Method section] Implementation of the veto (described in the method section): the precise choice of veto scale and its ordering relative to the ZZ decay products and spin correlations is not specified. Because the central claim rests on the veto compensating exactly for removed negative H events, any mismatch in emission ordering could produce O(α_s) residuals in differential distributions even if inclusive quantities agree.
minor comments (1)
  1. [Abstract] The abstract refers to a 'rather small power-suppressed contribution' without defining the relevant pT scale or providing a numerical estimate; adding this would improve clarity.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the careful review and the recommendation for minor revision. The comments are constructive and we address them point by point below, with revisions planned where appropriate.

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  1. Referee: [Validation section] Validation section: the reported agreement with MC@NLO is stated for radiation-sensitive and inclusive observables, but no quantitative measures (e.g., relative differences, integrated discrepancies, or error bands on the low-pT region) are provided. This leaves the size of the claimed power-suppressed mismatch unquantified and weakens the ability to judge whether the veto exactly restores the subtracted real-emission contribution for ZZ kinematics including Z-decay interference.

    Authors: We agree that quantitative measures would strengthen the presentation. In the revised manuscript we will add plots of relative differences (with statistical error bands) between MAcNLOPS and MC@NLO for the radiation-sensitive and inclusive observables. We will also report the integrated discrepancy in the low-pT region and explicitly comment on the size of the power-suppressed effects for observables that include Z-decay interference. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Method section] Implementation of the veto (described in the method section): the precise choice of veto scale and its ordering relative to the ZZ decay products and spin correlations is not specified. Because the central claim rests on the veto compensating exactly for removed negative H events, any mismatch in emission ordering could produce O(α_s) residuals in differential distributions even if inclusive quantities agree.

    Authors: The veto is applied to the first emission generated by Pythia8 for S events, using the emission transverse momentum as the veto scale. The ordering follows the standard Pythia8 sequence: the hard process (including spin correlations) is generated first, after which the shower proceeds and the veto is imposed before decay products are showered. This ordering is chosen to preserve the exact compensation for the removed negative-H events at the level of the matching. We will insert an explicit paragraph in the method section describing this scale and ordering to remove any ambiguity. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity: numerical implementation validated by external comparison

full rationale

The paper presents a concrete implementation of the existing MAcNLOPS prescription inside the MadGraph5_aMC@NLO + Pythia8 framework for ZZ production. Its central result—removal of negative H weights with agreement to standard MC@NLO on radiation-sensitive and inclusive observables—is established by direct generation and comparison of event samples, not by any analytical derivation, parameter fit, or self-referential definition. The veto compensation for removed negative H events is checked numerically against an independent MC@NLO reference, with any residual mismatch reported as power-suppressed and confined to the low-pT region. No load-bearing step reduces to a self-citation chain, fitted input renamed as prediction, or ansatz smuggled via prior work; the validation supplies independent external support.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

The approach relies on the existing MC@NLO framework and standard parton-shower modeling; no new free parameters, axioms beyond domain-standard QCD, or invented entities are indicated in the abstract.

axioms (1)
  • domain assumption Standard NLO QCD matrix elements and parton-shower matching as implemented in MadGraph5_aMC@NLO + Pythia8
    The MAcNLOPS modification is built directly on top of this established matching prescription.

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