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Object Pose and Shape Estimation for Grasping: Does it Work?

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Pith's one-line read Modular pose and shape estimation with antipodal sampling outperforms end-to-end grasp synthesis on single-view RGB-D images.

desk verdict The paper claims modular pose/shape estimation plus antipodal sampling beats end-to-end grasp synthesis on single-view parallel-jaw tasks, but the abstract gives no numbers to support it. read the letter →

arxiv 2605.26944 v1 pith:OTDEECT4 submitted 2026-05-26 cs.RO cs.CV

Pavan Karke , Kushal Shah , Gaurav Singh , Md Faizal Karim , K Madhava Krishna , Rajat Talak This is my paper
classification cs.ROcs.CV
keywords graspsynthesisposeestimationshapemodularpipelineantipodalsamplingRGB-Dend-to-endlearning
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The reading

The paper tests whether recent advances in category-agnostic object pose and shape estimation allow a modular pipeline to beat direct end-to-end grasp generators. It implements three modular approaches using encoder-decoder and diffusion models for pose and shape, then antipodal sampling for 7-DoF grasps, and compares them to a state-of-the-art end-to-end method on single-view RGB-D inputs. Experiments show the modular route yields more grasps, including on small objects where end-to-end fails, though performance drops in clutter. The work also shows these estimators can be paired with vision-language models to produce language-conditioned grasps comparable to existing baselines.

What carries the argument

The modular grasp pipeline consisting of single-view pose and shape estimation followed by antipodal grasp sampling on the reconstructed objects.

What would settle it

Running the same experiments on a new object set or scene where the modular pipeline produces fewer or lower-quality grasps than the end-to-end baseline would falsify the performance advantage.

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Core claim

Modular methods that estimate object pose and shape then apply antipodal sampling generate more valid grasps than end-to-end grasp synthesis methods across tested scenes and object sets; the advantage is most pronounced for small objects, while both encoder-decoder and diffusion-based estimators show partial degradation in cluttered environments.

Load-bearing premise

The tested pose and shape estimators produce reconstructions accurate enough for antipodal sampling to yield collision-free, stable grasps in the single-view RGB-D test scenes.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The paper investigates whether recent category-agnostic object pose and shape estimation methods (encoder-decoder models such as SAM3D, LRM, CRISP and diffusion models such as InstantMesh, Zero123, SceneComplete) combined with antipodal grasp sampling can outperform a chosen end-to-end grasp synthesis method for 7-DoF parallel-jaw grasps from single-view RGB(-D) inputs. It reports that the modular pipelines outperform the end-to-end baseline across all experiments, including on small objects, provides failure-mode and runtime analysis for the two estimation paradigms, and demonstrates an extension that augments the estimators with vision-language models to produce language-conditioned grasps with performance comparable to the LERF-TOGO baseline.

Significance. If the empirical comparison is properly quantified, the work would supply concrete evidence on the practical maturity of current pose/shape estimators for downstream grasping, showing modular pipelines' advantages in grasp coverage and small-object handling while identifying clutter as a remaining limitation. The runtime/failure analysis and the VLM-augmented language-conditioned demonstration add usable engineering insight into trade-offs between modular and integrated approaches.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract and experimental results] Abstract and experimental results section: the claim that 'the modular methods outperform the end-to-end method in all our experiments' and 'are able to synthesize plenty of grasps, even for small objects, where the end-to-end methods fail' is unsupported by any quantitative metrics (success rates, grasp counts, quality scores), dataset specifications, number of trials, error bars, or statistical tests, rendering the central empirical claim unverifiable.
  2. [Experimental setup] Experimental setup: the weakest assumption that the chosen pose/shape estimators produce estimates accurate enough for antipodal sampling to yield valid grasps is stated but never tested with direct measurements of pose/shape error versus grasp success; without such correlation the outperformance conclusion cannot be isolated from estimator quality.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Abstract and §1] The abstract and introduction should explicitly name the specific end-to-end baseline and the three modular pipelines (including which estimator each uses) rather than referring only to generic categories.
  2. [Figures and tables] Figure captions and result tables (if present) should include the exact scene counts, object categories, and input modalities to allow replication.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the constructive feedback on strengthening the empirical claims and isolating the contributions of the modular pipeline. We address each major comment below.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract and experimental results] Abstract and experimental results section: the claim that 'the modular methods outperform the end-to-end method in all our experiments' and 'are able to synthesize plenty of grasps, even for small objects, where the end-to-end methods fail' is unsupported by any quantitative metrics (success rates, grasp counts, quality scores), dataset specifications, number of trials, error bars, or statistical tests, rendering the central empirical claim unverifiable.

    Authors: We agree that the abstract should explicitly include quantitative metrics to support the claims. The experimental results section reports grasp success rates, coverage counts, and comparisons on small objects across the tested methods and datasets, but these details are not summarized numerically in the abstract. We will revise the abstract to report specific success rates, grasp counts, dataset specifications, number of trials, and any available error bars or statistical information from the experiments. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Experimental setup] Experimental setup: the weakest assumption that the chosen pose/shape estimators produce estimates accurate enough for antipodal sampling to yield valid grasps is stated but never tested with direct measurements of pose/shape error versus grasp success; without such correlation the outperformance conclusion cannot be isolated from estimator quality.

    Authors: We agree that an explicit correlation between measured pose/shape estimation error and downstream grasp success would strengthen the isolation of the outperformance conclusion. The manuscript states that modular effectiveness is contingent on estimation accuracy and includes failure-mode analysis, but does not provide direct per-estimate error versus grasp-success plots. We will add such correlation analysis in the revision using the pose/shape error data collected during the experiments. revision: yes

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full rationale

The paper is an experimental comparison study evaluating modular pose/shape estimation pipelines (using external models like SAM3D, LRM, CRISP, InstantMesh) against an end-to-end grasp synthesizer on single-view RGB(-D) inputs. No mathematical derivations, equations, fitted parameters, or self-referential predictions are present. The central claim rests on direct experimental observations of grasp success rates, with explicit acknowledgment that performance depends on estimator accuracy. No load-bearing steps reduce to self-definition, fitted inputs, or self-citation chains; the work is self-contained against external benchmarks and datasets.

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The problem of object pose and shape estimation has seen key advancements lately. Encoder-decoder (e.g., SAM3D, LRM, CRISP) and diffusion-based models (e.g., InstantMesh, Zero123, SceneComplete) have shown category-agnostic shape encoding capacity and open-set generalizability. In this work, we ask the question: Are the object pose and shape estimation methods mature enough, such that when used with antipodal grasp sampling, can outperform the end-to-end grasp synthesis methods? We explore this question in detail by scoping our study to parallel jaw grippers, 7-DoF grasps, and single-view RGB(-D) image as input. We implement and compare a state-of-the-art, end-to-end grasp synthesis method and three modular methods, which first estimate the object pose and shape for all objects in the scene, and generate grasps using antipodal sampling. We observe that the modular methods outperform the end-to-end method in all our experiments. The modular methods are able to synthesize plenty of grasps, even for small objects, where the end-to-end methods fail. The effectiveness of the modular methods is contingent on the accuracy of the pose and shape estimation, and suffers partial degradation in cluttered scenes - a limitation of the existing pose and shape estimation methods. We also analyze the failure modes and run-times for the three modular methods, which use two different ways of object pose and shape estimation: one based on an encoder-decoder model, while another a diffusion model. Finally, we demonstrate that the single-view object pose and shape estimation methods can be augmented with vision-language models to yield language-conditioned grasps from just single-view RGB-D image as input. We notice comparable performance to the state-of-the-art LERF-TOGO baseline.

Figures

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Figure 1
Figure 1. (a) We implement and analyze four methods for grasp synthesis (only three shown): a state-of-the-art, End-to-End Method ( [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p001_1.png] view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Implementation of the four baselines: an end-to-end method that synthesizes grasps using a single-view RGB-D image, and three modular methods that [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. (a) Physics simulator scene. (b) Real-world experiment setup. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4
Figure 4. Figure 4: Physics Simulator Experiments: Plots the grasp success rate ( ), collision rate ( ), and force closure rate ( ) for the five base￾line methods: AnyGrasp, CRISP-Grasp, SAM3D-Grasp, SC-Grasp, AnyGrasp+CRISP, and AnyGrasp+SC. Also shown is the average number of grasps syn…
Figure 5
Figure 5. Figure 5: Real-World Dataset Experiments: The two figures plot the grasp success rate ( ), collision rate ( ), and force closure rate ( ) for the five baseline methods: AnyGrasp, CRISP-Grasp, SAM3D-Grasp, SC-Grasp, AnyGrasp+CRISP, and AnyGrasp+SC. Also shown is the average numbe…
Figure 6
Figure 6. Figure 6: Failure models of CRISP-Grasp (left), SAM3D-Grasp (middle), and SC-Grasp (right). annotator checks for scale error. If the scale too is deemed correct, the annotator checks for pose error. We observe that incorrect scale estimation is a major cause of failure in modula…
Figure 7
Figure 7. Figure 7: Grasp Generation in Cluttered Environments: The three figures plot the grasp success rate ( ), collision rate ( ), and force closure rate ( ) for the three types of clutter: 1 object, 5 objects and 10 objects. Also shown is the average number of grasps synthesized per …
Figure 8
Figure 8. Figure 8: Comparison of LERF-TOGO and our single-view pipeline. Unlike LERF-TOGO, which relies on multi-view input, our approach reconstructs a digital twin from a single RGB-D image. The resulting point cloud preserves geometry and texture, enabling language-conditioned grasps …

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