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From KAN to GR-KAN: Advancing Speech Enhancement with KAN-Based Methodology
T0 review · 3 major / 6 minor · reviewed 2026-08-11 · deepseek-v4-flash
Pith's one-line read GR-KAN, a group-rational variant of Kolmogorov-Arnold Networks, improves speech enhancement quality in both time- and time-frequency-domain models while reducing parameters by up to 4x.
desk verdict Useful empirical application of GR-KAN to speech enhancement, but the Demucs parameter accounting is inconsistent and the headline mixes two comparisons. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The load-bearing object is the GR-KAN layer, implemented as $\mathrm{LIN}(\mathrm{GR}(x))$: a group-wise rational activation $\mathrm{GR}$ followed by a linear matrix $\mathrm{LIN}$. Unlike a KAN layer, which places an independent spline on each edge, GR-KAN partitions input channels into $k$ groups and shares one rational function per group, which keeps parameters low, and it uses variance-preserving weight initialization for stable training. In MP-SENet the layer is inserted after the Bi-GRU inside each GRU-Transformer block; in Demucs its rational function replaces the ReLU nonlinearity in 1D CNN encoder/decoder blocks. This mechanism supplies the extra expressiveness for modeling harmonic and phase structure while avoiding the parameter blow-up that makes plain KAN fail.
What would settle it
Train the original and GR-KAN-adapted Demucs at depth 5 on VoiceBank-DEMAND across ten random seeds; if the mean PESQ difference between 2.990 and 2.896 falls below the standard deviation of the baseline, the claimed consistent improvement is not established.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
The central claim is that GR-KAN layers—learnable rational functions shared across channel groups, followed by a linear projection—are expressive enough to capture the smooth, multiscale structure of speech, while remaining trainable at scale. On MP-SENet, replacing the dense layers inside the GRU-Transformer blocks with one GR-KAN layer raises PESQ from 3.561 (GELU baseline) to 3.588 at the same 2.26M parameters, and outperforms doubled dense-layer baselines. On causal Demucs, replacing ReLU with GR-KAN in the encoder/decoder lifts PESQ from 2.896 to 2.990 at depth 5, matching the depth-6 original, which has over four times the parameters. The paper presents this as the first consistent improvement from KAN-based methods in both time- and state-of-the-art time-frequency-domain speech enhancement.
Load-bearing premise
The load-bearing premise is that the reported Demucs gains, especially the +0.1 PESQ from depth 5, are larger than run-to-run variation; the paper gives no standard deviations or seed count for those tables.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- The same training recipes and loss functions as the original MP-SENet and Demucs can be kept; GR-KAN is a drop-in swap for dense layers or activations.
- At depth 5, the GR-KAN-adapted Demucs matches the PESQ of the original depth-6 model while using about a quarter of the parameters, so parameter budgets can be redirected to depth or other capacity.
- GR-KAN beats doubled dense-layer baselines in MP-SENet, suggesting that more parameters with conventional layers are not an equivalent substitute for the rational activation structure.
- Plain KAN does not help time-frequency-domain speech enhancement at scale, so future KAN-style speech enhancement work should use GR-KAN's group-rational design rather than spline KAN.
- The paper concludes that future speech enhancement and speech generation systems may benefit from adopting GR-KAN.
Reading between the lines
- Our inference: the parameter savings suggest GR-KAN could be tested in larger speech enhancement backbones or in vocoders, where replacing expensive activations would be cheap to try.
- Our inference: the group-sharing mechanism, rather than rational functions alone, may be the key to the result; an ablation that uses a rational-family activation in the same slots would isolate that factor.
- Our inference: the method should transfer to non-speech audio restoration, such as music denoising, if the expressiveness claim about multiscale structure is general.
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Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper proposes adapting Group-Rational KAN (GR-KAN), a rational-function variant of Kolmogorov-Arnold Networks, to two speech enhancement architectures: MP-SENet in the time-frequency domain and Demucs in the time domain. The authors first compare KAN and GR-KAN against MLP variants on a synthetic signal modeling task, then replace dense layers in MP-SENet with GR-KAN layers and ReLU activations in Demucs with GR-KAN activations. On VoiceBank-DEMAND they report that GR-KAN improves PESQ by up to 0.1 while requiring up to 4x fewer parameters than a deeper baseline, and claim the first successful use of KAN-based methods for consistent improvement in both time-domain and state-of-the-art time-frequency-domain speech enhancement.
Significance. If the reported gains are reproducible and the parameter counts are correct, the paper offers a practical drop-in replacement for dense layers and activations in existing SE models, with modest objective quality improvements at lower or equal parameter cost. The paper has clear strengths: the MP-SENet experiments are averaged over three runs with standard deviations, the comparison includes both conventional and learnable activations, and the negative result for KAN on MP-SENet is a useful data point consistent with prior scalability concerns. However, the central parameter-efficiency claim currently rests on an apparent inconsistency in the Demucs parameter accounting, and the Demucs results lack variance information, so the headline improvement could be within run-to-run noise. The circularity burden is minimal, as GR-KAN is an externally proposed method and all comparisons are against external baselines.
major comments (3)
- [Section 3.3 and Table 4] Table 4 reports the same #P for the original Demucs and the GR-KAN adapted Demucs at every depth (4.702, 18.868, 75.512M), yet Section 3.3 states that the zero-parameter ReLU activations in the encoders and decoders were replaced by GR-KAN activations (GR from Eq. 4), and GR-KAN rational functions have trainable coefficients. If those coefficients are trainable, the GR-KAN model must have strictly more trainable parameters than the baseline. The identical numbers strongly suggest that the rational-function coefficients were excluded from #P. Please clarify exactly which parameters are included in the reported counts, and if the coefficients were omitted, recount and recompute all parameter-efficiency conclusions.
- [Abstract and Table 4] The abstract's claim that 'GR-KAN requires up to 4x fewer parameters while improving PESQ by up to 0.1' is not supported by any single comparison in Table 4. The 4x ratio comes from comparing GR-KAN depth 5 (18.868M) with original depth 6 (75.512M), while the +0.1 PESQ improvement (2.896 to 2.990) comes from comparing GR-KAN depth 5 with original depth 5 at identical reported parameter counts. No row or pair of rows demonstrates both a 4x parameter reduction and a 0.1 PESQ gain simultaneously. The authors should either report a matched experiment that shows both outcomes in one comparison or rephrase the abstract to state the two findings separately and accurately.
- [Tables 3 and 4] The Demucs results in Tables 3 and 4 are reported as point estimates without standard deviations, confidence intervals, or the number of seeds, unlike Table 2 where MP-SENet results are averaged over three runs with standard deviations. Since the headline gains are approximately 0.1 PESQ (e.g., 2.896 to 2.990 at depth 5, and 2.977 to 3.018 at depth 6), it is currently impossible to judge whether these differences exceed run-to-run variation. Please report multi-run statistics for the Demucs experiments, or at minimum provide a variance estimate and a significance test, before claiming consistent improvement.
minor comments (6)
- [Abstract] There is a typo: 'V oicebank-DEMAND' should be 'VoiceBank-DEMAND'.
- [Section 2.2, Eq. (3)] The text uses 'scaler' where 'scalar' is intended; please correct the wording.
- [Section 3.3] The phrase 'To further access scalability' should read 'To further assess scalability'.
- [Table 3] The column headers 'KAN Enc' and 'KAN Dec' are misleading because the adapted model uses GR-KAN activations, not KAN activations; rename the headers to 'GR-KAN Enc' and 'GR-KAN Dec'.
- [Section 3.3] The Demucs adaptation uses only the GR rational-function part of Eq. (4) rather than the full GR-KAN layer; please specify the group size, rational-function degree, and any other GR-KAN hyperparameters used for the Demucs experiments, as these are not reported.
- [Section 5] The claim of 'first successful use of KAN-based methods' is stronger than the evidence supports, given that only two model architectures are tested and no comparison is made against other KAN variants or other recent activation-replacement methods on the same benchmark; consider softening the novelty claim.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity: GR-KAN is an externally developed method, evaluated against external baselines on a standard benchmark.
full rationale
This paper does not derive its own fitting equations; it imports GR-KAN from prior work [28] by different authors and then substitutes it into MP-SENet and Demucs. All performance claims are empirical comparisons against externally defined baselines (Voicebank-DEMAND, PESQ/CSIG/CBAK/COVL/STOI), and no reported result is obtained by solving for a parameter that was fitted to the same target. The "4x fewer parameters" claim is a comparison of published model sizes, not a construction-level identity. The identical #P values for baseline and GR-KAN Demucs in Table 4, alongside the paper's statement that ReLU activations were replaced by parameterized GR-KAN rational activations, is a parameter-accounting inconsistency that deserves a correctness review, but it is not circularity: no metric is defined in terms of another reported quantity, and the central comparisons are external. The signal-modeling experiment in Section 3.1 also uses a synthetic task with no dependence on the SE benchmark results. Therefore the circularity score is 0.
Assumptions & free parameters
free parameters (2)
- GR-KAN group size k =
8
- KAN grid size and spline order =
grid=5, order=3
assumptions (4)
- standard math Kolmogorov-Arnold theorem underlies KAN expressiveness
- domain assumption GR-KAN architecture from [28] works as described
- domain assumption VoiceBank-DEMAND protocol from [33] is correctly followed
- domain assumption Replacing dense layers or ReLU with GR-KAN is a fair architectural comparison
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read the original abstract
Deep neural network (DNN)-based speech enhancement (SE) usually uses conventional activation functions, which lack the expressiveness to capture complex multiscale structures needed for high-fidelity SE. Group-Rational KAN (GR-KAN), a variant of Kolmogorov-Arnold Networks (KAN), retains KAN's expressiveness while improving scalability on complex tasks. We adapt GR-KAN to existing DNN-based SE by replacing dense layers with GR-KAN layers in the time-frequency (T-F) domain MP-SENet and adapting GR-KAN's activations into the 1D CNN layers in the time-domain Demucs. Results on Voicebank-DEMAND show that GR-KAN requires up to 4x fewer parameters while improving PESQ by up to 0.1. In contrast, KAN, facing scalability issues, outperforms MLP on a small-scale signal modeling task but fails to improve MP-SENet. We demonstrate the first successful use of KAN-based methods for consistent improvement in both time- and SoTA TF-domain SE, establishing GR-KAN as a promising alternative for SE.
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Introduction Speech enhancement (SE) reduces noise and distortion to im- prove speech clarity, benefiting applications like hearing aids, telecommunications and voice recognition systems. Traditional SE solutions are based on digital signal processing solutions, such as Wiener filtering [1], spectral subtraction [2] and min- imum mean squared error estima...
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Preliminaries 2.1. KAN: Kolmogorov-Arnold Network The Kolmogorov-Arnold theorem [32] asserts that any continu- ous function can be represented as a composition of univariate continuous functions of a finite number of variables. A KAN layer L is thus a composition of learnable univariate functions, ϕ(s), as shown in Eq. (1): L(x) = PI i=1 ϕi,1(xi) . . . PI...
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KAN and GR-KAN in SE 3.1. Analysis on small-scale signal modeling We first evaluate KAN and GR-KAN solutions on a small-scale signal modeling task using a 5 second synthetic signal with sam- pling rate of 100. Results are compared against several MLP Figure 1: Architecture of (a) the Overall MP-SENet (b) the GR- KAN adapted GRU-Transformer Block. variants...
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