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On the fixed Schwarzschild branch of f(Q) gravity, a log entropy correction changes only the first-law temperature, leaves heat capacity negative in its valid range, and cannot produce superradiance for a neutral scalar.

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load-bearing objection Clean, fully explicit consistency note: log entropy on fixed STEGR-Schwarzschild does not create a controlled phase transition or first-order superradiance shift. the 2 major comments →

arxiv 2607.09041 v1 pith:TTFKQOXY submitted 2026-07-10 gr-qc

Thermodynamic Consistency of Logarithmic Entropy Corrections on the Schwarzschild Branch of f(mathbb{Q}) Gravity and a Superradiance No-Go Result

Wen-Xiang Chen This is my paper
classification gr-qc
keywords f(Q) gravitysymmetric teleparallel gravityblack-hole thermodynamicslogarithmic entropy correctionHawking temperatureheat capacitysuperradiance
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This paper works out black-hole thermodynamics and scalar-wave scattering on the exact Schwarzschild solution of the linear (STEGR) branch of symmetric teleparallel f(Q) gravity. The metric and a flat, torsion-free connection are independent; for f(Q)=Q the theory is Einstein gravity plus a boundary term, so the vacuum solution is ordinary Schwarzschild. The area entropy is recovered both from the Noether charge and from the classical first law. A phenomenological logarithmic correction is then added while the geometry and ADM mass are held fixed. The geometric surface-gravity temperature stays 1/(4π r₊); the temperature conjugate to the corrected entropy is lowered or raised by the log term. The formal heat-capacity pole sits exactly where the log expansion is no longer controlled, so it is not a phase transition. For a neutral scalar on this static neutral background the radial equation, real effective potential and conserved Wronskian imply |R|^{2} ≤ 1; the entropy parameter never enters the wave operator, so there is no first-order correction to the scattering amplitudes. The paper therefore supplies a controlled benchmark: log entropy alone does not alter Hawking temperature, create stability, or open a superradiant window without back-reaction or rotation/charge.

Core claim

With geometry and ADM mass fixed on the STEGR Schwarzschild branch, the corrected entropy S_corr = S_0 + α ln(S_0/S⋆) produces the first-law temperature T_FL = r₊ / [4(π r₊^{2} + α G)] while the geometric Hawking temperature remains T_κ = 1/(4π r₊). The associated heat capacity stays negative wherever the log expansion is reliable, and a neutral scalar experiences no superradiant amplification and no first-order α-shift in reflection or transmission amplitudes.

What carries the argument

The fixed-geometry, fixed-mass first-law temperature T_FL obtained by dividing dM/dr₊ by dS_corr/dr₊, together with the Wronskian conservation identity that forces |R|^{2} ≤ 1 for a real potential on a static neutral horizon.

Load-bearing premise

The logarithmic correction is inserted by hand into the entropy while the metric, horizon radius and ADM mass are kept exactly classical, without any derivation of the log term or a back-reacted geometry from the f(Q) action.

What would settle it

Derive an explicit semiclassical back-reaction (or a rotating/charged f(Q) solution) that shifts the metric functions or the horizon chemical potentials by terms linear in α; if those shifts open a window with ω̃_H < 0 or produce a positive heat capacity inside |α|/S_0 ≪ 1, the no-go claims fail.

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Referee Report

2 major / 5 minor

Summary. The manuscript analyzes logarithmically corrected black-hole thermodynamics and scalar scattering on the Schwarzschild branch of symmetric teleparallel f(Q) gravity. Treating metric and flat torsion-free connection as independent, it formulates the nonmetricity geometry and field equations, shows that the linear STEGR branch f(Q)=Q is dynamically equivalent to GR up to a boundary term, and recovers the Schwarzschild vacuum with M=r+/(2G). Leading entropy is obtained from Noether charge and the classical first law. A phenomenological correction S_corr=S_0+α ln(S_0/S_⋆) is then introduced while geometry and ADM mass are held fixed, yielding an unchanged geometric temperature T_κ=1/(4π r+) but a modified first-law temperature T_FL=r+/[4(π r+²+α G)]. The formal heat-capacity pole at S_0=α is shown to lie outside the controlled regime |α|/S_0≪1. The scalar radial equation, real effective potential, Wronskian, and reflection–transmission relation are derived; for a neutral scalar on static neutral Schwarzschild, |R|²≤1 and the entropy correction induces no first-order shift in scattering amplitudes without backreaction or rotation/charge.

Significance. If accepted as a controlled benchmark, the paper supplies a fully explicit, step-by-step reference calculation that cleanly separates three operations often conflated in the modified-gravity thermodynamics literature: (i) changing the entropy functional, (ii) redefining the conjugate temperature, and (iii) changing the geometry. The intermediate algebra for the STEGR reduction, surface gravity, Euclidean period, T_FL, C_FL pole location, tortoise equation, and Wronskian conservation is displayed without omission and is reproducible (including a numerical table and direct plots). The no-go result for first-order α-dependence of scattering amplitudes under fixed geometry is elementary but correctly framed, and the insistence that a genuine superradiant or phase-transition claim requires an explicit rotating/charged f(Q) solution plus backreaction is a useful methodological clarification. The work is therefore a solid technical note rather than a discovery of new physics.

major comments (2)
  1. The central thermodynamic and no-go conclusions rest on the modeling choice of §5.3 (Eq. 121): F(r), r+, and ADM mass are held fixed by hand while only the entropy functional is corrected. The paper itself states that a nonzero correction to scattering or a physical phase transition would require a derived semiclassical backreaction or an explicit rotating/charged solution. This scope limitation is acknowledged but remains load-bearing: the results are conditional on a purely phenomenological entropy insertion that is not derived from the f(Q) action. The manuscript would be strengthened by either (a) a short derivation or literature citation showing how a log term can arise as a one-loop correction on the STEGR branch, or (b) a clearer framing in the abstract/introduction that the paper is a consistency analysis under fixed geometry rather than a prediction of f(Q) thermodynamics.
  2. Section 4.3 and the introduction claim that the leading entropy is justified by both the Noether-charge (Wald) method and the classical first law. The first-law reconstruction is fully displayed (Eqs. 103–108), but the Noether-charge argument is only asserted by reference to the STEGR literature (Refs. [9–11]). For a paper whose title emphasizes thermodynamic consistency on the f(Q) branch, a brief self-contained sketch of the Wald entropy for the linear STEGR action (or an explicit statement that it reduces identically to the GR Noether charge because of the boundary-term identity in Eq. 42) would make the claim self-contained.
minor comments (5)
  1. Title and abstract use f(\mathbb{Q}) while the body uses f(Q); standardize the notation.
  2. Section 7, Table 1 and the surrounding text: the numerical example with r+=2, G=1, |α|=0.5 is useful, but ε_log≃0.1 is only marginally ≪1; a second column with larger S_0 would better illustrate the controlled regime.
  3. Figures 1–3 are direct evaluations of the analytic formulas; axis labels and captions are clear, but the manuscript would benefit from stating the plotting ranges and that no numerical integration of the wave equation is performed.
  4. A few typographical inconsistencies appear (e.g., “off(Q)” in the title block of the PDF header, occasional missing spaces around operators). A light copy-edit pass would remove them.
  5. References [5–7] cover the f(Q) black-hole literature; a brief comparison sentence noting that the present work restricts itself to the linear STEGR branch (rather than nonlinear f(Q) solutions) would help situate the contribution.

Circularity Check

1 steps flagged

Mild definitional character only: the vanishing first-order scattering shift is true by the fixed-geometry assumption; no fitted predictions or load-bearing self-citation chains.

specific steps
  1. self definitional [§5.3 Eq. (121); §8.8 Eqs. (246)–(254)]
    "We therefore impose F(r;α)=F_0(r), r_+(α)=r_+^{(0)}, M(α)=M_0. ... Under (121), ∂F/∂α=0. Equation (220) then gives ∂V_ℓ/∂α=0. ... The unique first-order correction consistent with those homogeneous conditions is u_1=0, R_1=0, T_1=0. Therefore ∂R/∂α=0, ∂T/∂α=0 within the assumptions of this paper."

    The claimed absence of a first-order α correction to reflection/transmission is identical to the input modeling choice that the metric (and hence the wave operator) does not depend on α. With ∂_α F = 0 imposed by hand, the first-order radial equation is homogeneous and the fixed unit-incident boundary condition forces R_1 = T_1 = 0. The “no-go” is therefore true by construction under (121), not an independent dynamical result from a backreacted f(Q) geometry. The paper acknowledges the conditionality, so the circularity is mild and transparent.

full rationale

The paper’s central chain is self-contained and algebraic. STEGR reduction to Einstein gravity plus a boundary term is derived from the displayed curvature decomposition (Eqs. 40–42), the Schwarzschild vacuum is solved from the Einstein-form equations, and T_κ, S_0, T_FL, C_FL, and the Wronskian relation |R|² ≤ 1 are obtained from explicit differentiations and standard first-law/wave identities. α and S_⋆ enter as free phenomenological parameters; there is no fit to data and no self-citation of the present author as a uniqueness theorem. The only mild circularity is that the “no first-order α-shift in scattering amplitudes” is equivalent to the modeling choice (121) that F, r_+, and M are independent of α: once ∂_α F = 0 is imposed, ∂_α V_ℓ = 0 and the homogeneous first-order radial problem force R_1 = T_1 = 0. The paper states this conditionality openly and does not present the no-go as a dynamical prediction from a corrected f(Q) action. T_FL is likewise an openly definitional conjugate temperature under fixed classical mass, not a hidden self-definition. Overall circularity is therefore low (score 2).

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

2 free parameters · 5 axioms · 1 invented entities

The paper’s load-bearing novelty is almost entirely about how a hand-added log entropy interacts with fixed classical geometry. It inherits GR/STEGR geometry and standard scalar wave theory, then adds two free phenomenological parameters (α, S_⋆) and the modeling rule that geometry does not backreact. No new particles or forces are invented; T_FL is a definition, not an entity.

free parameters (2)
  • α (logarithmic entropy coefficient)
    Phenomenological coefficient in S_corr = S_0 + α ln(S_0/S_⋆); not derived from f(Q) field equations; sign and magnitude control all corrected thermo quantities.
  • S_⋆ (reference entropy scale)
    Arbitrary positive scale making the logarithm dimensionless; enters S_corr and free-energy expressions; chosen by hand (e.g. S_⋆ = 1 in numerics).
axioms (5)
  • domain assumption Symmetric teleparallel geometry: independent metric and flat torsion-free connection; nonmetricity defines Q and the f(Q) action.
    Section 2; standard f(Q) setup from cited literature.
  • domain assumption Linear branch f(Q)=Q is dynamically equivalent to GR up to a boundary term (STEGR).
    §2.7; used to justify Schwarzschild vacuum and area entropy.
  • domain assumption Leading entropy on this branch is the GR area law S_0 = A_H/(4G), justified by Noether/Wald and classical first law.
    §4.3 and citations [9–11]; not claimed for arbitrary nonlinear f(Q).
  • ad hoc to paper Logarithmic correction may be added phenomenologically while holding F(r), r_+, and ADM mass fixed (no backreaction).
    §5.1–5.3, Eq. (121); central modeling choice for all thermo and scattering conclusions.
  • standard math Minimally coupled neutral scalar on the fixed Schwarzschild background obeys the standard Klein–Gordon equation with real potential.
    §8; used for Wronskian and |R|² ≤ 1.
invented entities (1)
  • First-law effective temperature T_FL no independent evidence
    purpose: Restore dM = T dS after replacing S_0 by S_corr at fixed classical mass.
    Defined in §5.5 as T_FL = (dM/dr_+)/(dS_corr/dr_+); not a new physical field, but a thermodynamic convention the paper carefully distinguishes from T_κ.

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We present a concise and explicit analysis of logarithmically corrected black-hole thermodynamics and scalar scattering on the Schwarzschild branch of symmetric teleparallel gravity. Treating the metric and the flat, torsion-free affine connection as independent variables, we formulate the relevant nonmetricity geometry and field equations and show that the linear branch is dynamically equivalent to general relativity up to a boundary term. The vacuum solution is therefore the Schwarzschild spacetime. The leading entropy is derived from both the Noether-charge method and the classical first law, after which a logarithmic correction is introduced. When the geometry and ADM mass are kept fixed, the geometric Hawking temperature remains unchanged, whereas the temperature defined through the corrected first law is modified. The apparent divergence of the heat capacity occurs outside the regime in which the logarithmic expansion is reliable and therefore cannot be interpreted as a physical phase transition. We also derive the scalar radial equation, effective potential, conserved Wronskian, and reflection-transmission relation. For a neutral scalar field on a static neutral background, no superradiant amplification occurs, and the entropy correction produces no first-order change in the scattering amplitudes unless a genuine semiclassical backreaction or an explicit rotating or charged black-hole solution is provided.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2607.09041 by Wen-Xiang Chen.

Figure 1
Figure 1. Figure 1: Direct evaluation of (110) with G = S⋆ = 1. 8 Scalar wave equation and superradiance no-go theo￾rem 8.1 Four-dimensional Klein–Gordon equation Consider a minimally coupled scalar field of mass µ:[9, 10, 11] IΦ = − 1 2 Z d 4x √ −g [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p020_1.png] view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Figure 2: The geometric temperature and first-law effective temperature. Positive [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p021_2.png] view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Figure 3: The effective heat capacity (162) in a perturbative domain. All displayed branches remain negative. Also ∂ 2 t e −iωt = −ω 2 e −iωt . (204) After dividing by e −iωtYℓm, (201) becomes ω 2 F u r + 1 r 2 d dr  r 2F d dr u r   − ℓ(ℓ + 1) r 2 u r − µ 2 u r = 0. (205) Now d dr u r  = u ′ r − u r 2 , (206) so r 2F d dr u r  = rF u′ − F u. (207) Differentiate: d dr (rF u′ − F u) = (F + rF′ )u ′ + rF u′′ − … view at source ↗

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