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Imposing a vanishing Higgs quartic at the Planck scale and running the full two-loop Standard Model yields a predicted Higgs mass of 121.99 GeV.

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load-bearing objection Clean two-loop inversion of vacuum stability that quotes mh=121.99 GeV, but main-text and appendix β-functions disagree on load-bearing coefficients, so the printed equations do not uniquely fix that number. the 4 major comments →

arxiv 2607.24329 v1 pith:VPBQ6IVV submitted 2026-07-27 hep-ph

Ultraviolet boundary condition and the Higgs mass

classification hep-ph
keywords Higgs massultraviolet boundary conditionrenormalization groupthreshold matchingPlanck scaleStandard Modelquartic couplingemergent gravity
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This paper tests a simple idea: that the Higgs self-coupling is exactly zero at the Planck scale, with every other Standard Model input taken from experiment. Using complete two-loop renormalization-group evolution and full two-loop threshold matching, that single boundary condition produces a Higgs mass of 121.99 GeV. The measured mass is 125.20 GeV, so the prediction sits 3.21 GeV (about 2.6%) low. The authors argue this is still meaningful agreement at present precision, because the same hypothesis could easily have missed by a much larger margin. A sharper test, they say, needs a full three-loop calculation and a better top-quark mass.

Core claim

With λ(M_P)=0 as the sole ultraviolet boundary condition and all other couplings fixed by experiment, complete two-loop Standard Model running plus full two-loop threshold matching predicts m_h=121.99 GeV, 3.21 GeV below the measured 125.20 GeV. Within an estimated theoretical uncertainty of ±2.5 GeV (dominated by unknown three-loop effects at ±1.5 GeV), the hypothesis is not excluded.

What carries the argument

Two-loop Standard Model β-functions for the gauge, top-Yukawa, and Higgs-quartic couplings, integrated from M_P down to the top mass with λ(M_P)=0, followed by the full two-loop (NNLO) threshold matching that converts the running λ into the physical Higgs mass.

Load-bearing premise

The claim that missing three-loop and higher effects shift the predicted Higgs mass by only about ±1.5 GeV, an estimate taken from perturbative power counting rather than a finished three-loop calculation of the full coupled system.

What would settle it

A complete three-loop Standard Model renormalization-group and matching calculation, or a substantially more precise top-quark mass, that drives the λ(M_P)=0 prediction several GeV farther from the measured 125.20 GeV and outside the revised error budget.

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If this is right

  • The simplest Planck-scale choice λ=0 remains compatible with the observed Higgs mass at two-loop precision.
  • The infrared Higgs mass is highly sensitive to the ultraviolet top Yukawa: a 1 GeV shift in the top pole mass moves the prediction by roughly 2 GeV.
  • Small ultraviolet deviations from λ(M_P)=0 are damped toward the infrared, so the prediction is stable under modest boundary perturbations.
  • A decisive test of the boundary condition requires both a full three-loop SM calculation and a tighter top-mass measurement.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • If three-loop terms prove larger than the power-counting estimate, the present mild undershoot could become a clear exclusion of pure λ(M_P)=0 without additional high-scale physics.
  • The same pipeline can be reused to test neighboring ultraviolet choices (small but nonzero λ, or slight shifts in the matching scale) and map how large a deviation from zero is still allowed.
  • Because the top Yukawa dominates the error, future collider top-mass programs function as direct probes of this ultraviolet boundary hypothesis.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

4 major / 6 minor

Summary. The manuscript tests the ultraviolet hypothesis λ(M_P)=0 by evolving the Standard Model gauge, top-Yukawa, and Higgs couplings from M_Z to the reduced Planck scale and back, imposing λ(M_P)=0, and converting λ(m_t) to a Higgs mass with the NNLO threshold matching of Buttazzo et al. It reports m_h=121.99±2.5 GeV, 3.21 GeV below the measured 125.20 GeV, and interprets this as consistency with the emergence framework of Ref. [1]. A sensitivity study identifies the top mass and unknown three-loop terms as the dominant uncertainties.

Significance. If the numerical result is established, the paper provides a clean and falsifiable no-fit test of a simple Planck-scale boundary condition. Its strengths are the use of experimentally fixed low-energy inputs, a complete two-loop RG treatment, NNLO threshold matching, an explicit sensitivity analysis, and a stated intention to provide the numerical code. The conceptual novelty, however, rests on the separate emergence framework of Ref. [1]; the SM computation itself is closely related to existing near-criticality and vacuum-stability analyses. At present, inconsistent β-function normalizations, an outdated or insufficiently justified top-mass input, and an internally inconsistent uncertainty budget prevent the quoted 121.99 GeV and 1.3σ comparison from being established.

major comments (4)
  1. [§3.2 and Appendix A, Eqs. (3.4), (3.6), (3.8), (A.1), (A.3), (A.5), (A.6)] The printed β-functions do not define a unique calculation. In the stated SU(5) normalization, Eq. (A.1) has the standard b1=41/10 and Eq. (A.3) the corresponding B and C, whereas Eqs. (3.4) and (3.6) give the ordinary-hypercharge coefficients 41/6, 199/18, etc. For βλ, Eq. (3.8) has the standard SU(5) coefficient -9/20 g1² in the linear term, while Eq. (A.5) and Appendix C use -27/20. With Eq. (3.8), the derivative in Eq. (C.4) is about -9.18×10^-3, not -1.758×10^-2. The conversion in Eq. (A.6) also requires checking: for example, the standard 85/6 gY² λyt² term becomes 17/2 g1² λyt², not 17/10. Please state which formulae the code used, correct the normalization, and rerun the central result and stability analysis if necessary.
  2. [Table 7 and §§3.3–3.4] The central trajectory should be benchmarked against the published near-criticality calculations it cites. For M_t≈173 GeV and α_s(M_Z)≈0.118, the NNLO Planck-scale stability/zero-crossing region in Refs. [5,11] lies several GeV above 121.99 GeV; Ref. [11]'s absolute-stability lower bound is around 129 GeV. These conditions are not identical, but the difference requires a quantitative reconciliation. A useful check is to reproduce the published λ(M_P) for the central inputs of Ref. [5], and only then change the boundary condition to λ(M_P)=0. Without such a benchmark, especially given the equation inconsistencies above, a sign or normalization error in the implementation cannot be excluded.
  3. [§2.2, Appendix B.1, and Table 7] The top-mass input is not the cited PDG 2024 value. The manuscript uses M_t=173.0±0.3 GeV, while the PDG 2024 direct-measurement average is approximately 172.52±0.33 GeV. With the manuscript's own sensitivity of roughly 2 GeV in m_h per 1 GeV in M_t (Appendix B.5), this is about a 1 GeV shift in the prediction. The treatment also needs greater scheme precision: the direct reconstruction mass is not automatically a pole mass, and B.1's m_t(MS)=163.6 GeV is the pole-MS conversion near μ=m_t, so the steps leading to the quoted y_t(M_Z)=0.93967 should be shown explicitly. The central result should be recomputed with a clearly defined, current input.
  4. [§§4.2–4.3, Tables 5–6, and Appendix B.5] The uncertainty budget is internally inconsistent. Table 5 assigns ±1.9 GeV to the “experimental” y_t(M_P) error through y_t(M_P)=0.360±0.015. But Appendix B.5 states that ±1 GeV in M_t produces approximately ±2 GeV in m_h, so the quoted M_t uncertainty of ±0.3 GeV gives only about ±0.6 GeV. If the ±0.015 in y_t(M_P) instead includes conversion or truncation effects, those components must be decomposed and protected against double counting with the separate ±1.5 GeV three-loop entry. The latter is also based on power counting rather than an explicit variation using the known three-loop βλ and available threshold information. The total ±2.5 GeV and the stated 1.3σ deviation should be recalculated after this is resolved.
minor comments (6)
  1. [Table 2, first row] Using the rounded Planck-scale values and Eq. (3.8), the one-loop contribution to 16π²βλ at λ=0 is approximately +0.0368; the two-loop term as printed in Eq. (A.6) changes this by only O(5×10^-4) in the same displayed units. This does not reproduce the tabulated +0.007. Please check whether the entry is a typo or evidence of yet another βλ implementation.
  2. [Table 1 and §2.2] The Planck-scale gauge and Yukawa couplings are described as external inputs, but they are derived outputs obtained by RG extrapolation from low-energy data. It would be clearer to label the low-energy measurements as inputs and the M_P values as derived boundary values with propagated uncertainties.
  3. [Appendix C] The term “RG-stable boundary condition” should be qualified more carefully. Since βλ(0)≠0, λ=0 is not invariant; the calculation only shows damping of a perturbation over the finite interval considered. The paper acknowledges this, but the main text's stability language should consistently reflect the distinction.
  4. [§4.2.1] The statement that a complete three-loop treatment is unavailable should specify exactly which three-loop sectors are missing as of submission and should situate the estimate relative to more recent three-loop RG and matching literature, rather than citing only Ref. [10] for βλ.
  5. [Acknowledgments] The text first says that “no original code is released” and later says that the numerical code is available as an ancillary file. Please reconcile these statements and provide the code, input files, and version information needed to regenerate Tables 2–7.
  6. [Acknowledgments] The manuscript has two authors, but the acknowledgments repeatedly use the singular (“The author declares,” “solely the work of the author”). This should be corrected.

Circularity Check

1 steps flagged

Numerical m_h prediction is not circular: λ(M_P)=0 is an imposed hypothesis and all other inputs are external experiment; only mild interpretive self-citation to the authors' Ref. [1].

specific steps
  1. self citation load bearing [Abstract; Sec. 1; Sec. 2.1; Sec. 5]
    "The calculation tests the simplest ultraviolet boundary condition consistent with the emergence framework of Ref. [1]. ... This result provides indirect support for the central idea of Ref. [1]. ... Whether the emergence framework of Ref. [1] can eventually explain why the ultraviolet boundary value takes this particular number is an open question."

    The physical motivation for treating λ(M_P)=0 as privileged (and the claim of 'indirect support' for emergence) is justified only by citing the same lead author's companion paper [1], not by an independent external derivation. This is mild: the paper admits [1] does not derive the BC, and the numerical m_h output does not depend on [1] once λ(M_P)=0 is simply imposed. The self-citation loads the interpretive framing, not the GeV prediction itself.

full rationale

The load-bearing chain is: impose λ(M_P)=0, take g_i(M_Z), M_t, and v from independent pre-Higgs or Higgs-independent measurements, run full two-loop SM RGE, apply two-loop threshold matching, and obtain m_h=121.99 GeV. None of those experimental inputs is fitted to m_h, and λ(M_P)=0 is not defined from the measured Higgs mass. The paper explicitly states that deriving λ(M_P)=0 from the emergence framework is an open question it does not answer, so the numerical claim does not reduce to Ref. [1] by construction. The only mild circularity is interpretive: the claim that the result 'supports' or is 'the simplest BC consistent with' the emergence framework rests on self-citation to the same lead author's Ref. [1], which is motivation packaging rather than a step that forces the quoted GeV number. Coefficient inconsistencies between main text and appendix (correctness risk) do not create a circular reduction of prediction to input. Score 2 reflects one non-load-bearing self-citation around an otherwise independent SM calculation.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 5 axioms · 1 invented entities

The central numerical claim rests on (i) the Standard Model remaining the correct effective theory from m_t to M_P, (ii) the unproven boundary choice λ(M_P)=0, and (iii) truncation of the perturbative series at two loops with a power-counting error bar. No parameters are fitted to the Higgs mass. The “emergence framework” supplies motivation only; the paper explicitly does not derive the boundary condition from it. Invented conceptual baggage lives in the cited companion paper, not in the RG calculation itself.

axioms (5)
  • domain assumption The pure Standard Model (no new thresholds) governs the RG flow of g_i, y_t, and λ from M_P down to m_t.
    Stated throughout Secs. 2–3; gravitational corrections near M_P are absorbed into a ±0.02 coupling error rather than modeled.
  • ad hoc to paper λ(M_P)=0 is the correct ultraviolet boundary value for the Higgs quartic.
    Imposed in Eq. (2.1) as “the simplest choice” consistent with the emergence framework; Sec. 5 and Sec. 2.1 admit the framework does not derive this value.
  • domain assumption Two-loop β-functions plus two-loop threshold matching, with three-loop effects estimated by O(g²/16π²) power counting at ±1.5 GeV on m_h, suffice for a meaningful comparison to experiment.
    Sec. 4.2.1; authors note the complete three-loop SM system is unavailable and adopt a conservative ±1.5 GeV by hand.
  • domain assumption MS-bar couplings at M_Z and the two-loop pole-to-MS top conversion of Melnikov–van Ritbergen correctly initialize the flow.
    Sec. 2.2 and Appendix B.1; standard but scheme-dependent inputs taken from PDG 2024 and Ref. [6].
  • standard math SU(5)-normalized gauge couplings and the quoted two-loop coefficient matrices are the ones integrated numerically.
    Required for scheme consistency with threshold matching; undermined by main-text vs appendix coefficient mismatches.
invented entities (1)
  • Emergence framework (energy–momentum tensor protected by Ward identity; other operators unprotected) no independent evidence
    purpose: Motivates why λ(M_P) need not be externally fixed and why zero is the “simplest” ultraviolet choice.
    Imported entirely from the authors’ companion preprint Ref. [1]; this paper does not re-derive it and states that deriving λ(M_P)=0 from the framework remains open.

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Within the emergence framework, in which infrared physics is not fixed by ultraviolet Lagrangian parameters, the hypothesis that the Higgs quartic coupling vanishes at the Planck scale is tested within the full two-loop Standard Model. With lambda(M_P) = 0 imposed as the sole boundary condition and all other inputs fixed by experiment, a Higgs mass of m_h = 121.99 GeV is obtained from complete two-loop renormalisation-group evolution and full two-loop threshold matching. This lies 3.21 GeV (2.6%) below the measured value of 125.20 GeV. The dominant theoretical uncertainty, +/- 1.5 GeV, arises from unknown three-loop effects and is estimated by perturbative power counting. The calculation tests the simplest ultraviolet boundary condition consistent with the emergence framework of Ref. [1]. The agreement is meaningful at the available precision, since the hypothesis could easily have been excluded by a wide margin. A sharper test requires a complete three-loop calculation and an improved top-quark mass measurement.

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