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Applicability of kinetic theory in strongly coupled thermal quantum systems

Shile Chen , Shuzhe Shi , Pengfei Zhuang This is my paper

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In 1D lattice models of strongly interacting fermions, two-particle correlations become subdominant at high temperatures where thermal energy matches interaction strength, supporting kinetic theory applicability.

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The paper constructs one-dimensional interacting lattice spinor theories with momentum discretization, focusing on the Schwinger and Nambu-Jona-Lasinio models. It performs first-principles calculations of single-particle and two-particle momentum distribution functions at finite temperature. At low temperatures, high-momentum tails indicate fermion-antifermion bound states, while high temperatures show quasi-free spinor gas behavior. The central finding is that when thermal kinetic energy becomes comparable to the interaction strength, connected two-particle correlations are subdominant relative to single-particle distributions. This observation is presented as evidence that kinetic theory can describe these strongly coupled systems under those conditions.

Core claim

In these one-dimensional interacting lattice spinor theories, ab-initio calculations of single-particle and two-particle momentum distribution functions at finite temperature show that for a high-enough temperature at which the thermal kinetic energy is comparable with the interaction, the two-particle correlation is subdominant compared to the single particle distributions, which indicates the applicability of kinetic theory.

What carries the argument

The direct comparison of single-particle momentum distribution functions against the connected component of the two-particle momentum correlation functions, extracted from finite-temperature lattice computations.

Load-bearing premise

That the subdominance of connected two-particle correlations seen in these specific one-dimensional momentum-discretized lattice models is enough to conclude that kinetic theory applies across the wider class of strongly coupled thermal quantum systems.

What would settle it

A calculation or measurement in a different model, dimension, or without momentum discretization showing that connected two-particle correlations remain comparable to or larger than single-particle distributions even when thermal kinetic energy matches the interaction strength would falsify the indication.

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Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2606.26696 by Pengfei Zhuang, Shile Chen, Shuzhe Shi.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: FIG. 1. The sites layout in of momentum lattice. A filled [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p003_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: FIG. 2. Equilibrium single-particle momentum distribution [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: FIG. 3. Kinetic energy per particle of interacting theories [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: FIG. 4. Free kinetic energy over the total energy as a function [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_4.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 5. Figure 5: FIG. 5. Thermal expectation of four-momentum correlator, [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_5.png] view at source ↗
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In this work, we construct one-dimensional interacting lattice spinor theories with discretization in momentum space. We focus on strongly interacting Schwinger and Nambu--Jona-Lasinio models and perform ab-initio calculation of their single-particle and two-particle momentum distribution functions at finite temperature. We observe, at low temperature, high-momentum tail in single-particle and two particle distribution which reveals relative momentum in fermion-antifermion boundstates, as well as quasi-free spinor gases behavior at high temperature. The non-vanishing connected four-momentum function reveals the quantum coherence in momentum space under thermal equilibrium of the system and indicate the single particle correlation would remember more microscopic details within a thermal system. Overall, for a high-enough temperature at which the thermal kinetic energy comparable with the interaction, we observe that the two-particle correlation is subdominant compared to the single particle distributions, which indicates the applicability of kinetic theory.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The manuscript constructs one-dimensional interacting lattice spinor theories with momentum-space discretization, focusing on the Schwinger and Nambu-Jona-Lasinio models. Through ab-initio calculations, it examines single-particle and two-particle momentum distribution functions at finite temperature. The authors report high-momentum tails at low temperatures indicative of fermion-antifermion bound states, quasi-free behavior at high temperatures, and a non-vanishing connected four-momentum function suggesting quantum coherence. The central claim is that at high enough temperatures where thermal kinetic energy is comparable to the interaction strength, the two-particle correlation is subdominant to single-particle distributions, indicating the applicability of kinetic theory.

Significance. If the observed hierarchy generalizes, the work provides numerical evidence for the conditions under which kinetic theory may apply even in strongly coupled regimes. The explicit demonstration in specific models and the note on quantum coherence add to the discussion of thermal quantum systems. However, the lack of analytical support or broader tests limits the significance to a case study.

major comments (3)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract: The claim that subdominance of the two-particle correlation indicates applicability of kinetic theory to strongly coupled thermal quantum systems in general is not supported by any derivation or argument showing why this observation is not specific to the 1D lattice models with momentum discretization studied here.
  2. [Abstract] Abstract: The non-vanishing connected four-momentum function, which reveals quantum coherence in momentum space, is noted but not quantitatively reconciled with the conclusion that kinetic theory applies, as kinetic theory typically assumes incoherent quasiparticle dynamics.
  3. [Abstract] Abstract: No evidence or discussion is provided on whether the subdominance holds in higher dimensions, continuum limits, or other strongly coupled systems beyond the specific Schwinger and NJL lattice models.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] Grammatical issues: 'comparable with the interaction' should be 'comparable to the interaction'; 'indicate the single particle correlation would remember' should be 'indicates that the single-particle correlation would remember'.
  2. [Abstract] The phrase 'quasi-free spinor gases behavior' is unclear; consider rephrasing to 'behavior of a quasi-free spinor gas'.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

3 responses · 2 unresolved

We thank the referee for the detailed comments on our manuscript. We address each major comment point by point below, with revisions where appropriate.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: The claim that subdominance of the two-particle correlation indicates applicability of kinetic theory to strongly coupled thermal quantum systems in general is not supported by any derivation or argument showing why this observation is not specific to the 1D lattice models with momentum discretization studied here.

    Authors: We agree that the manuscript presents numerical results for specific 1D lattice Schwinger and NJL models and does not contain a general derivation establishing applicability beyond these cases. The central observation is that the two-particle correlation becomes subdominant when thermal kinetic energy is comparable to the interaction strength in the models studied. We will revise the abstract to clarify that this hierarchy is observed in the 1D lattice models considered, providing case-study evidence rather than a general claim. revision: partial

  2. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: The non-vanishing connected four-momentum function, which reveals quantum coherence in momentum space, is noted but not quantitatively reconciled with the conclusion that kinetic theory applies, as kinetic theory typically assumes incoherent quasiparticle dynamics.

    Authors: The non-vanishing connected four-momentum function is reported as evidence of residual quantum coherence. Our calculations nevertheless show the two-particle distributions remain subdominant to single-particle ones at sufficiently high temperature. We will add a paragraph in the discussion section providing a quantitative comparison of the relative magnitudes of the connected and disconnected contributions to address how coherence coexists with the observed hierarchy. revision: partial

  3. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: No evidence or discussion is provided on whether the subdominance holds in higher dimensions, continuum limits, or other strongly coupled systems beyond the specific Schwinger and NJL lattice models.

    Authors: The work is a targeted case study of 1D lattice models with momentum-space discretization. Extending the analysis to higher dimensions or the continuum limit would require new numerical implementations and is outside the present scope. revision: no

standing simulated objections not resolved
  • Lack of a general derivation showing why the observed hierarchy should hold beyond the specific 1D lattice models.
  • Absence of evidence or discussion for higher dimensions, continuum limits, or other strongly coupled systems.

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full rationale

The paper constructs specific 1D lattice models (Schwinger and NJL), performs ab-initio computations of momentum distributions, and reports an observational finding that two-particle correlations become subdominant at high T. The statement that this 'indicates the applicability of kinetic theory' is an interpretive conclusion from the numerics in those models, not a derivation or prediction that reduces to its own inputs by construction. No equations are presented that equate a claimed result to a fitted parameter or self-cited premise. No self-citations, ansatze, or uniqueness theorems are invoked in the provided text. The generalization to broader strongly coupled systems is a scope limitation rather than a circular step in any derivation.

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