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The Stretched Horizon and Black Hole Complementarity

High Energy Physics - Theory · Submitted 16 Jun 1993 · 30 references

Pith's verdict: The origin point for the modern stretched-horizon picture, with checkable 2D results and one honest gap in §3.4 that the paper papers over with an assertion.

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CitationJ. Uglum, L. Susskind, L. Thorlacius. "The Stretched Horizon and Black Hole Complementarity." arXiv:hep-th/9306069 (1993). https://pith.science/paper/PGKZI2FU
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The paper

The paper claims

A black hole can evaporate unitarily for a distant observer and still let a freely falling observer pass the horizon without noticing anything, because no experiment can compare the two accounts.

The reading

The paper confronts the standard argument that unitary evaporation and a smooth horizon cannot both be true. That argument runs: if the outgoing radiation is pure, the state on a spacelike surface that crosses the horizon must factorize, forcing the interior state to be the same regardless of what fell in, which violates the equivalence principle. The authors reply that such a factorized state is not physically meaningful, since no observer can measure both factors, and they build a description from the outside only. They lay down three postulates: a unitary $S$-matrix for the distant observer, ordinary semi-classical field equations outside the horizon, and a horizon Hilbert space of dimension $e^{S(M)}$ with $S$ the Bekenstein entropy. Working in a solvable two-dimensional dilaton-gravity model, they show these postulates are realized by a stretched horizon, a timelike surface about one Planck unit of area outside the global horizon that absorbs infalling matter, heats to a mass-independent local temperature, and re-radiates it.

What carries the argument

The stretched horizon is defined by mapping each point of the global event horizon backward along an ingoing null ray to the point where the area function is larger by a fixed amount $A(m)+d$; in the semi-classical two-dimensional model the natural choice is $-y^+y^- = k/4$, giving a surface at fixed tortoise coordinate $s_S = 1/2 log(k/4)$ that is only minimally outside the true horizon. Its dynamics are carried by the area equation $d^2A_S/dt^2 - dA_S/dt = -T_{++} + k/4$, whose second term is the dissipative, time-asymmetric piece and whose right side balances incoming flux against outgoing Hawking flux. Absorption is modelled by a boundary condition on the matter field equivalent to a surface resistivity of $4p$ (377 ohms in four dimensions), and the horizon's entropy is identified with its area, so the dimension of its Hilbert space is $e^{A}$. Fluctuations are captured by the free-field behaviour of the area perturbation, giving $< (A(t)-A_0)^2 > = (N/24p^2) t$, matching the thermodynamic estimate from the specific heat.

Extended reading notes

Core claim

The central claim is a principle of black hole complementarity: the interior and exterior of a black hole are not two parts of one measurable world but two descriptions suited to two classes of observer, and the state that would describe both at once has no operational content. If that is granted, the contradiction dissolves, and a distant observer may see a unitary $S$-matrix while an infalling observer sees nothing at the horizon. The paper's constructive half is that the thermodynamics of the stretched horizon is not fundamental but arises from coarse-graining a large, ergodic set of horizon degrees of freedom whose number is fixed by the area. In the two-dimensional model the authors write an explicit equation for the horizon area that contains a friction-like term, identify the membrane's absorption with a resistivity of $4$, compute the onset of Hawking emission as an excitation of the horizon that precedes the arrival of the infalling matter, and show that the horizon area undergoes Brownian motion with variance growing linearly in time. They conclude that the information returns in long-time, non-thermal correlations spread across the whole emission history, not in late low-energy quanta and not in a stable remnant.

Load-bearing premise

The load-bearing premise is that a quantum state describing the inside and the outside of a black hole at once is physically meaningless because no single observer can measure both halves; the paper argues this operationally and concedes that a quantum field theory of gravity might supply such a global state anyway, in which case its own postulates would be the thing that fails.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • Information about the infalling state is returned in long-time correlations between Hawking quanta emitted at very different times, so the radiation is thermal in every local respect but not globally.
  • There is no stable or long-lived remnant: the entanglement entropy of the radiation is bounded by the horizon area and must return to zero as the horizon shrinks back to its vacuum size.
  • The horizon area random-walks away from its classical trajectory, so the lifetime of a black hole of mass $M$ carries an intrinsic spread of order $\sqrt{M}$.
  • The local temperature at the stretched horizon is of order the Planck temperature and independent of the black hole mass, which implies a universal, mass-independent surface density of horizon degrees of freedom.
  • The negative-energy 'thunderpop' that the semi-classical model needs at the endpoint is replaced by a smooth cooling in which temperature and luminosity go to zero rather than overshooting.
  • Near-critical incoming flux is a regime where mean-field semi-classical reasoning should fail, in analogy with critical phenomena, with horizon fluctuations growing without bound.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • If complementarity is correct, 'the interior' is better read as a bookkeeping device than as a place, and any proposed experiment that claims to compare an infalling record with an external one must fail for a reason locatable in the theory of measurement rather than in gravitational dynamics.
  • The claim of one horizon state per Planck area, independent of mass, is a concrete counting target that any candidate quantum gravity can be checked against without needing the full evaporation history.
  • The predicted linear-in-time diffusion of horizon area suggests an observational handle: stochasticity in the emitted flux beyond what a mean-field semi-classical treatment predicts would be evidence for the coarse-grained picture over the smooth one.
  • The paper's own concession that a quantum field theory of gravity might supply a global Hilbert space across the horizon marks the exact seam where a future calculation could decide the issue, since such a theory would make the complementarity move unavailable.
Original abstract

Three postulates asserting the validity of conventional quantum theory, semi-classical general relativity and the statistical basis for thermodynamics are introduced as a foundation for the study of black hole evolution. We explain how these postulates may be implemented in a ``stretched horizon'' or membrane description of the black hole, appropriate to a distant observer. The technical analysis is illustrated in the simplified context of 1+1 dimensional dilaton gravity. Our postulates imply that the dissipative properties of the stretched horizon arise from a course graining of microphysical degrees of freedom that the horizon must possess. A principle of black hole complementarity is advocated. The overall viewpoint is similar to that pioneered by 't~Hooft but the detailed implementation is different.

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The abstract, sentence by sentence

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Three postulates asserting the validity of conventional quantum theory, semi-classical general relativity and the statistical basis for thermodynamics are introduced as a foundation for the study of black hole evolution. We explain how these postulates may be implemented in a ``stretched horizon'' or membrane description of the black hole, appropriate to a distant observer. The technical analysis is illustrated in the simplified context of 1+1 dimensional dilaton gravity. Our postulates imply that the dissipative properties of the stretched horizon arise from a course graining of microphysical degrees of freedom that the horizon must possess. A principle of black hole complementarity is advocated. The overall viewpoint is similar to that pioneered by 't~Hooft but the detailed implementation is different.

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s1 We explain how these postulates may be implemented in a ``stretched horizon'' or membrane description of the black hole, appropriate to a distant observer. method 0.55 0.83 0.08 hedged possibility 0.99
s2 The technical analysis is illustrated in the simplified context of 1+1 dimensional dilaton gravity. method 0.98 0.69 0.03 asserted 0.98
s3 Our postulates imply that the dissipative properties of the stretched horizon arise from a course graining of microphysical degrees of freedom that the horizon must possess. interpretation 0.92 0.78 0.30 asserted 0.99
s4 A principle of black hole complementarity is advocated. contribution 0.85 0.67 0.42 asserted 0.64
s5 The overall viewpoint is similar to that pioneered by 't~Hooft but the detailed implementation is different. background 0.85 0.27 0.08 asserted 0.98

What kind of paper the classifier reports this is: position or commentary 0.61 · evidence from argument 0.58.

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Figure 1. Foliate the spacetime with a family of space-like C
Figure 2. FIGURE 2. Penrose diagram for the eternal black hole solutio
Figure 3. FIGURE 3. Penrose diagram for the infall solution.
Figure 4. FIGURE 4. Semi-classical black hole formation and evaporat
Figure 5. FIGURE 5. Construction of the classical stretched horizon.
Figure 6. FIGURE 6. Black hole evolution in tortoise coordinates.
Figure 7. FIGURE 7. Sub-critical flux of incident matter.
Figure 8. FIGURE 8. Thermal entropy of stretched horizon and radiatio
Figure 9. FIGURE 9. Entanglement entropy of radiation and stretched h

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How later papers used it

349 later papers cite it

Evidence: substantial. 335 of the citing papers share no author with it, and 14 of those carry a confident label from Pith's citation classifier.

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Cites it as support 1 of 6 papers with this label · 1 by the same authors

By the same authors

  • Said that its results offer support to the black hole complementarity paradigm for solving the black hole information problem.

    Quantum Chaos and Unitary Black Hole Evaporation (2022) (same authors) · 0.96 · paraphrased: the licence does not allow quoting

How the literature uses it

300 arXiv papers cite this in 450 sentences

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Papers citing it · 253 sentences without a confident label

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  • [ref] which addresses it in part with: “From a formal point of view, the cause of the horizon expansion is a gravitational dressing which is attached to the incoming energy flux.” However, in our scenario the horizon expansion starts in a flat, static environment, which has been unchanged for thousands of years, about one year before the shell starts to collapse and hence no incoming energy flux exists to carry a “gravitational dressing” which can be “the cause of the horizon expansion.”

    Black Hole Complementarity and Violation of Causality · Massive shell collapsing on a billiard ball · contest 0.72

Uses its method or tool 2 papers
Compares with it 6 papers
  • [ref] ) focus on matter falling into an existing BH horizon whereas here we consider matter engulfed by an expanding horizon.

    Black Hole Complementarity and Violation of Causality · Massive shell collapsing on a billiard ball · 0.96

  • The stretched horizon of black hole complementarity is placed at a Planck distance from the event horizon so that distant observers see an apparently real membrane on it [ref] , whereas our stretched horizon behaves as a membrane only approximately.

    Islands and stretched horizon · Discussions · 0.99

  • [ref] considered experiments that ran for much shorter times than ours, though such times were always at least logarithmically longer than the light-crossing time of the black hole.

    Holographic Thought Experiments · Experiments inside Black Holes · 1.00

Cites it as support 6 papers
Cites it as background 155 papers

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