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arxiv: 2504.14215 · v2 · submitted 2025-04-19 · ✦ hep-th

Hidden Zeros and 2-split via BCFW Recursion Relation

Bo Feng , Liang Zhang , Kang Zhou This is my paper

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keywords hidden zeros2-splitBCFW recursionnon-linear sigma modelscattering amplitudesmodified recursion
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A modified BCFW recursion proves hidden zeros in non-linear sigma model amplitudes even when the standard relation cannot be applied directly.

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The paper establishes that hidden zeros and the associated 2-split behavior in scattering amplitudes can be understood through a recursion approach. Although the usual BCFW recursion does not work directly for non-linear sigma model amplitudes, a modified version of the relation succeeds in proving the zeros. The authors further show that the 2-split property only holds when the current is defined with care. A reader would care because this supplies a recursion-based route to these amplitude properties, offering an alternative to other discovery methods and clarifying the conditions under which the properties survive.

Core claim

Although the BCFW recursion relation is not directly applicable for computing amplitudes of the non-linear sigma model, we can indeed prove the zeros using the modified BCFW recursion relation. Our work also indicates that for the 2-split to hold, the current should be carefully defined.

What carries the argument

The modified BCFW recursion relation, which extends the standard recursion sufficiently to establish hidden zeros in non-linear sigma model amplitudes where direct application fails.

If this is right

  • Hidden zeros in non-linear sigma model amplitudes follow from the modified recursion even without direct use of the standard relation.
  • The 2-split property requires a careful definition of the current to remain valid.
  • The recursion method supplies an independent proof route for the hidden zeros and 2-split behaviors.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The same modified recursion might be tested on other effective theories that share similar zero structures.
  • Careful current definitions could influence how 2-split is applied in related amplitude calculations beyond the cases shown.

Load-bearing premise

The modified BCFW recursion relation is valid for the non-linear sigma model and strong enough to prove the hidden zeros despite the standard version not applying directly.

What would settle it

An explicit computation of a low-point non-linear sigma model amplitude via the modified BCFW recursion that either locates the hidden zero at the predicted kinematic point or fails to do so.

read the original abstract

In this paper, we provide another angle to understand recent discoveries, i.e., the hidden zeros and corresponding 2-split behavior using the BCFW recursion relation. For the hidden zeros, we show that although the BCFW recursion relation is not directly applicable for computing amplitudes of the non-linear sigma model, we can indeed prove the zeros using the modified BCFW recursion relation. Our work also indicates that for the 2-split to hold, the current should be carefully defined.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The paper claims to offer a new perspective on recent discoveries of hidden zeros and 2-split behavior in scattering amplitudes by using the BCFW recursion relation. It states that although the standard BCFW recursion is not directly applicable to non-linear sigma model (NLSM) amplitudes, a modified BCFW recursion can prove the hidden zeros, and that the current must be carefully defined for the 2-split to hold.

Significance. If the modified recursion is shown to be valid and equivalent to the physical amplitudes, the work would provide an alternative route to proving hidden zeros and clarifying conditions for 2-split, adding to the toolkit for understanding amplitude structures in NLSM and related theories. The use of recursion relations with targeted modifications could be a useful contribution if the equivalence is rigorously established.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract and section introducing modified BCFW] The central claim that the modified BCFW recursion proves the hidden zeros rests on an unverified assumption that the modification preserves on-shell factorization, boundary-term cancellation, and amplitude properties without introducing extraneous poles; this step is load-bearing but not derived from first principles or shown explicitly (see abstract and the section introducing the modification).
  2. [Section on 2-split behavior] The assertion that 'the current should be carefully defined' for the 2-split to hold is stated without a concrete derivation or example showing how alternative definitions alter the split or violate the property (see the 2-split discussion section).
minor comments (2)
  1. [Methodology section] Clarify the precise form of the modified recursion relation (e.g., any changes to the shift or contour) with an equation or diagram for reproducibility.
  2. [Throughout] Add explicit cross-references between the hidden-zero proof and the 2-split discussion to strengthen the narrative flow.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

2 responses · 0 unresolved

We thank the referee for their careful reading of our manuscript and for the constructive comments, which help clarify the presentation of our results on hidden zeros and 2-split behavior in NLSM amplitudes via modified BCFW recursion. We address each major comment below and indicate the revisions we will implement.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract and section introducing modified BCFW] The central claim that the modified BCFW recursion proves the hidden zeros rests on an unverified assumption that the modification preserves on-shell factorization, boundary-term cancellation, and amplitude properties without introducing extraneous poles; this step is load-bearing but not derived from first principles or shown explicitly (see abstract and the section introducing the modification).

    Authors: We thank the referee for identifying this key point requiring further elaboration. The manuscript introduces the modified BCFW recursion by adapting the standard shift to the NLSM current structure while preserving the residue theorem and on-shell conditions. To make this explicit, the revised version will add a dedicated derivation subsection showing step-by-step that the modification maintains factorization on physical poles, cancels boundary terms by the same large-z scaling arguments as in standard BCFW, and introduces no extraneous poles due to the specific choice of shift vectors aligned with the NLSM flavor structure. This will ground the proof of hidden zeros more rigorously from first principles. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Section on 2-split behavior] The assertion that 'the current should be carefully defined' for the 2-split to hold is stated without a concrete derivation or example showing how alternative definitions alter the split or violate the property (see the 2-split discussion section).

    Authors: We agree that the manuscript would benefit from an explicit illustration of this point. In the revised 2-split section, we will include a concrete example using a specific low-point amplitude (e.g., 6-point NLSM) where we compare the carefully defined current (consistent with the recursion) against an alternative definition that ignores the required flavor contraction. We will explicitly compute both cases to show that the alternative violates the 2-split by producing non-vanishing contributions in the forbidden kinematic region, thereby demonstrating the necessity of the definition. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity; modified BCFW applied as independent tool to establish zeros

full rationale

The paper explicitly notes that standard BCFW does not apply to NLSM amplitudes and introduces a modified version to prove the hidden zeros and 2-split properties. The derivation proceeds by applying this recursion to the NLSM Lagrangian and showing the zeros emerge from the recursion structure and current definition, without the zeros being presupposed in the modification itself or the result being a direct renaming of inputs. No self-citation chain is load-bearing for the central proof, and the argument remains self-contained against the recursion relations and on-shell conditions stated in the manuscript.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

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The central claim rests on the validity of a modified BCFW recursion for NLSM and on a specific definition of current for the 2-split property; no explicit free parameters or new entities are introduced in the abstract.

axioms (1)
  • domain assumption Modified BCFW recursion relation holds for NLSM amplitudes
    Invoked to prove hidden zeros where standard BCFW does not apply directly.

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