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Constraining primordial non-Gaussianity from DESI DR1 quasars and Planck PR4 CMB Lensing
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The pith
Cross-correlating DESI DR1 quasars with Planck PR4 CMB lensing constrains local primordial non-Gaussianity to f_NL near zero with 35 percent tighter bounds.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
The central claim is the first measurement of local-type primordial non-Gaussianity from the cross-correlation of 1.2 million DESI DR1 quasars and Planck PR4 CMB lensing maps. In three redshift bins covering about 20 percent of the sky, simultaneous fitting of f_NL and per-bin linear bias yields f_NL = 2^{+28}_{-34} when the response parameter p equals 1.6 and f_NL = 6^{+20}_{-24} when p equals 1.0. These results tighten prior constraints by roughly 35 percent, while an optimal weighting scheme produces f_NL = 19^{+25}_{-31} assuming p=1.6.
What carries the argument
The tomographic cross-power spectrum between quasar overdensities and CMB lensing convergence, measured with a catalog-based pseudo-C_ℓ estimator and linear imaging weights validated on noiseless mocks.
If this is right
- The measured f_NL values remain consistent with zero, supporting Gaussian initial conditions.
- The spectroscopic quasar sample and reduced Planck PR4 noise produce cleaner large-scale cross-spectra than photometric predecessors.
- Optimal weighting increases the constraining power on f_NL beyond the baseline analysis.
- The approach demonstrates that DESI quasars can probe inflationary physics at high redshift.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The same cross-correlation method could be applied to future DESI releases or other spectroscopic surveys to reach sub-10 uncertainties on f_NL.
- If f_NL stays near zero with tighter errors, it would further disfavor multi-field inflation models that predict detectable non-Gaussianity.
- The choice of response parameter p shifts the central value, indicating that independent calibration of p would reduce the dominant systematic uncertainty.
Load-bearing premise
The linear imaging weights, validated only on noiseless mocks, fully capture all relevant systematics in the real cross-power spectra without biasing the f_NL measurement.
What would settle it
A statistically significant shift away from the reported f_NL central values in the same quasar-lensing cross-power spectra when the identical weights and simultaneous bias-plus-f_NL fit are applied to a larger independent dataset.
read the original abstract
We present the first measurement of local-type primordial non-Gaussianity from the cross-correlation between $1.2$ million spectroscopically confirmed quasars from the first data release (DR1) of the Dark Energy Spectroscopic Instrument (DESI) and the Planck PR4 CMB lensing reconstructions. The analysis is performed in three tomographic redshift bins covering $0.8 < z < 3.5$, covering a sky fraction of $\sim 20\%$. We adopt a catalog-based pseudo-$C_\ell$ estimator and apply linear imaging weights validated on noiseless mocks. Compared to previous analyses using photometric quasar samples, our results benefit from the high purity of the DESI spectroscopic sample, the reduced noise of PR4 lensing, and the absence of excess large-scale power in the spectroscopic quasar auto-correlation. Fitting simultaneously for the non-Gaussianity parameter $f_{\mathrm{NL}}$ and the linear bias amplitude in each redshift bin, we obtain $f_{\mathrm{NL}} = 2^{+28}_{-34}$ for a response parameter $p=1.6$, and $f_{\mathrm{NL}} = 6^{+20}_{-24}$ for $p=1.0$. These results improve the constraints on $f_{\mathrm{NL}}$ by $\sim 35\%$ compared to the previous analysis based on the Legacy Imaging Survey DR9. Additionally, we derive an optimal weighting scheme to maximize the constraining power. In this case, and assuming $p=1.6$, we obtain $f_\mathrm{NL}=19^{+25}_{-31}$. Our results demonstrate the statistical power of DESI quasars for probing inflationary physics, and highlight the promise of future DESI data releases.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper reports the first measurement of local-type primordial non-Gaussianity (f_NL) via cross-correlation of 1.2 million DESI DR1 spectroscopic quasars (0.8 < z < 3.5, three tomographic bins, ~20% sky fraction) with Planck PR4 CMB lensing. Using a catalog-based pseudo-C_ℓ estimator with linear imaging weights validated on noiseless mocks, the authors simultaneously fit f_NL and per-bin linear bias amplitudes, obtaining f_NL = 2^{+28}_{-34} (p=1.6) and f_NL = 6^{+20}_{-24} (p=1.0). These constraints improve by ~35% over the prior Legacy Imaging Survey DR9 analysis. An optimal weighting scheme is also derived, yielding f_NL = 19^{+25}_{-31} for p=1.6.
Significance. If the mock-validated weights fully control systematics, the work demonstrates the statistical power of DESI's high-purity spectroscopic quasar sample for inflationary constraints, avoiding excess large-scale power seen in photometric samples and benefiting from lower-noise PR4 lensing. The ~35% tightening and consistency with f_NL=0 provide a useful benchmark for future DESI releases.
major comments (2)
- [Abstract and Methods] Abstract and Methods (catalog-based pseudo-C_ℓ estimator): linear imaging weights are validated exclusively on noiseless mocks, yet the central claim that the resulting cross-power spectra are unbiased for the joint f_NL + bias fit rests on the untested assumption that noise-induced selection, imaging artifacts, and redshift-dependent systematics are fully captured. Any residual bias at large scales would directly shift the reported f_NL = 2^{+28}_{-34} or 6^{+20}_{-24}.
- [Results] Results (f_NL fitting procedure): the response parameter p is fixed at discrete values (1.6 or 1.0) rather than marginalized; because the model for the scale-dependent bias depends on p, the quoted asymmetric errors on f_NL do not include this model uncertainty and the ~35% improvement claim relative to DR9 is therefore conditional on the chosen p.
minor comments (1)
- [Results] The optimal weighting scheme is mentioned but its explicit form, derivation, and impact on the covariance are not shown in sufficient detail for independent reproduction.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their detailed and insightful comments on our manuscript. We have carefully considered each point and provide point-by-point responses below. Where revisions are needed, we commit to incorporating them in the updated version.
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Referee: [Abstract and Methods] Abstract and Methods (catalog-based pseudo-C_ℓ estimator): linear imaging weights are validated exclusively on noiseless mocks, yet the central claim that the resulting cross-power spectra are unbiased for the joint f_NL + bias fit rests on the untested assumption that noise-induced selection, imaging artifacts, and redshift-dependent systematics are fully captured. Any residual bias at large scales would directly shift the reported f_NL = 2^{+28}_{-34} or 6^{+20}_{-24}.
Authors: We agree that validation on noiseless mocks alone leaves open the possibility of residual biases from noise and other effects. The linear imaging weights primarily address large-scale imaging systematics, and the estimator's covariance includes noise contributions. However, to fully address this, we will perform additional validation using mocks that include realistic noise and selection effects, and include these results in the revised manuscript to confirm the robustness of our f_NL measurements. revision: yes
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Referee: [Results] Results (f_NL fitting procedure): the response parameter p is fixed at discrete values (1.6 or 1.0) rather than marginalized; because the model for the scale-dependent bias depends on p, the quoted asymmetric errors on f_NL do not include this model uncertainty and the ~35% improvement claim relative to DR9 is therefore conditional on the chosen p.
Authors: The choice of p=1.6 and p=1.0 follows common practice in the literature for modeling the scale-dependent bias in quasars, reflecting different theoretical expectations for the response. We report constraints for both values explicitly to highlight the dependence. The 35% improvement is calculated relative to the DR9 analysis using the same p values. We will revise the text to explicitly state that the results are conditional on the fixed p and discuss the impact of this model choice, though full marginalization is beyond the scope of this work as p is a discrete modeling parameter. revision: partial
Circularity Check
Fitting f_NL simultaneously with per-bin bias amplitudes yields no circularity; result does not reduce to input assumptions by construction
full rationale
The derivation obtains f_NL by fitting the observed quasar-lensing cross-power spectra while jointly fitting linear bias amplitudes in each tomographic bin. The response parameter p is fixed at discrete external values (1.6 or 1.0) rather than derived from the data, and the linear imaging weights are validated on separate noiseless mocks. No equation in the paper equates the fitted f_NL to a quantity defined solely by those inputs or by a self-citation chain. The ~35% improvement is a comparison to prior external work, not a self-referential reduction. This is a standard parameter fit with independent content, warranting only a minor score for the fixed-p choice.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
free parameters (2)
- linear bias amplitude
- response parameter p =
1.6 or 1.0
axioms (2)
- domain assumption The DESI spectroscopic quasar sample has high purity and exhibits no excess large-scale power in its auto-correlation
- domain assumption Linear imaging weights validated on noiseless mocks can be applied to real data without introducing bias in the f_NL measurement
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